SEC -- no offer to Texas A&M [update: offer to Texas A&M]

Shorthorns BOR and Oklahoma BOR both meet today. Suspect that the outcome will be the death of the little 12....

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...ma-oklahoma-state-texas-tech-according-source

Also, UConn, now looking to jump ship to the ACC....Big East soon to be on life support.... The super conference concepts are becoming reality....stay tuned....

Thanks for the updates!

A&M is still being held hostage by Baylor, and that situation has no clear end in sight. The Big 12 will not necessarily die should, UT/Tech/ OU/ OSU leave. They still have a BCS conference bid through 2013, which will make them very attractive to Big East castoffs and schools that got shut out of the Big 12 at its origin (TCU, SMU, Houston). TV revenue will be a problem, but other conferences survive with less.

Missouri would likely get invited somewhere else, but the Kansas- Kansas State situation would be interesting. They can't split up because of political reasons in that state. While Kansas has AAU membership (who would have thought that would become a household term) and a very high profile basketball program, Kansas State's lackluster academic profile would likely keep it out of the Big 10.

So I think Kansas and Kansas State will really be the two schools trying to keep the Big 12 together.

If the shorthorns, OU, OSU and T-tech jump to the PAC/west the Baylor threat will go away. They would have to file against their Texas Big brother and that won't happen. BTW Baylor and Iowa St have been sniffing the shorts of the Big East (which is collapsing and will need new members) already which would also neutralize their threat. Mizzou would end up either in the Big 10 or SEC. My money would be on the SEC since they pee'd in their wheaties previously with the Big 10

Can't help but think the SEC should be getting Texas and OU.

From Andy Katz:

I can't see Connecticut and Rutgers trying to save the Titanic-like football conference. So let's assume both get out in some form. West Virginia and Louisville would like to bail. The Mountaineers could end up in the SEC or, like Louisville, South Florida and Cincinnati and TCU, in some sort of Big 12 hybrid.

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/35482/katz-oneil-answer-realignment-questions

I think it will be the Big East football castoffs coming to the Big 12, not the Big 12 castoffs going to the Big East.

Arkiehawg:

They [Baylor] would have to file against their Texas Big brother and that won't happen.

I have not heard anything saying that the Pac-12 requires a school's former conference to waive its right to sue.

From Andy Katz:



http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebask...35482/katz-oneil-answer-realignment-questions

I think it will be the Big East football castoffs coming to the Big 12, not the Big 12 castoffs going to the Big East.

Arkiehawg:


I have not heard anything saying that the Pac-12 requires a school's former conference to waive its right to sue.

Baylor won't have any reason to threaten to sue if/when TX,OK,OSU,T-Tech head to the Pac-12. The Big 12 will be officially dead. Mizzou will be leaving, leaving nothing left but the baby schools. A merger is in discussion with the leftovers of the Big12/Big East but that would more than likely be a new conference.

BTW..per ESPN. OK BOR has given the green light to look into the move. TX BOR to meet later today and OSU BOR on Wed. I suspect they will follow the same direction.

The University of Oklahoma's board of regents granted school president David Boren the authority to take action regarding conference realignment on Monday.
The move, just hours before their Texas counterparts were expected to do the same during a meeting in Austin, clears the way for the Sooners to apply formally to the Pac-12, with whom they have been undergoing discussions in recent days on how to make the schools' addition to the conference work.


Wouldn't be surprised if announcements to the Pac/W are done by week's end....

Gives a new entendre to our daughter's front license plate, "Don't mess with Texas."

Fexasss BOR has also given their go ahead.....the rather large cowgirl is starting to warm up her voice...

Argh! I can't deal with change. I hate that this is going down.

But thanks again for the updates, y'all.

I wonder how Notre Dame will fit into all of this. Obviously, they have a strong preference to remain independent in football and stay apart of the Big East in all other sports, but with the collapse of the Big East they would lose that option. Could the Big 10 just hold out and not allow Notre Dame to become a partial member?

I'm sure that my Tulane Greenies will be in high demand. Not.

Baylor won't have any reason to threaten to sue if/when TX,OK,OSU,T-Tech head to the Pac-12. The Big 12 will be officially dead. Mizzou will be leaving, leaving nothing left but the baby schools. A merger is in discussion with the leftovers of the Big12/Big East but that would more than likely be a new conference.

BTW..per ESPN. OK BOR has given the green light to look into the move. TX BOR to meet later today and OSU BOR on Wed. I suspect they will follow the same direction.

The University of Oklahoma's board of regents granted school president David Boren the authority to take action regarding conference realignment on Monday.
The move, just hours before their Texas counterparts were expected to do the same during a meeting in Austin, clears the way for the Sooners to apply formally to the Pac-12, with whom they have been undergoing discussions in recent days on how to make the schools' addition to the conference work.


Wouldn't be surprised if announcements to the Pac/W are done by week's end....

Crystal ball still holding true....

Mizzou BOC to meet on Thursday to discuss the conference issues....and now this.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/09/tentative_plan_for_mizzou_to_j.html

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/6998751/pac-12-conference-decides-expand-further

The league's presidents and chancellors voted late Tuesday night to reaffirm their decision to stay at 12 members.

So I guess we are right back where we were with Baylor holding Texas A&M (possibly Missouri?) hostage while the Big 12 lives to see another day, for now.

Granted, this could all change by tomorrow afternoon, but for now, A&M has no clear way of escaping.

As for Missouri, I guess they learned nothing from their embarrassing situation last year. :roll:

SEC announces A&M will join conference.

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/aggies/entries/2011/09/25/sec_announces_am_will_join_con.html?cxntcid=breaking_news

Beat me to it! Welcome to the SEC Aggies...

http:/http://www.tamu.edu/athletics/announcement.html/

Expect Mizzou next...

The science of arrogance

The University of Texas Department of Psychology everybody!

Think you’re better than everyone else? You may not be using your brain.


People who view themselves with rose-colored glasses actually are using less of their frontal lobes than people who have more realistic views of themselves, a UT researcher has discovered.


It may help scientists better understand brain functions in seniors or people who suffer from depression or other mental illnesses. It could also have implications for recovering methamphetamine addicts, whose frontal lobes are often damaged by drug use and who can overestimate their ability to stay clean.

The subjects who viewed themselves in a very positive light used their orbitofrontal cortex less than the other subjects. This region of the frontal lobe is generally associated with reasoning, planning, decision-making and problem-solving.

Some subjects who had accurate views of themselves showed four times more frontal lobe activation than the most extreme “rose-colored glasses” wearer in the study.

http://www.utexas.edu/alumni-friends/research-matters/science-of-arrogance

I do not see how adding Missiouri and Texas A&M makes college football's best conference any better:

Clemson
Miami
FSU
South Florida

Take your pick-any of them make better since than Missiouri.

Buz, it's all about money and market share, especially with the addition of aTm. They will now have a large market in Texas open to them. I would agree with the Mizzou consideration not helping with either the money or market share. The four that you mention really don't open up the market for the SEC AND creates more issues for their current members, S.C., GA and FL Don't see any of those four coming in unless they open the flood gates.

TAMU - meh.

A & M is like Clemson with a cannon

As I look into my crystal ball for this week, I see that the little schools in the little 12 will drop the lawsuit threat and aTm will come into the SEC. The SEC will also send offer out to Mizzou, WV and FSU this week....stay tuned.. Might also see some wild announcements with the little 12 and the Big East collapse due to multiple invitations to their members by other conferences....

With the aTm part out of the way, the other three(Mizzou, FSU, WV) may be coming on board to the SEC soon. I wouldn't expect to hear much until it is a done deal and the SEC announces all of them at once. Mizzou is a done deal more than likely. WV has a minor hold up regarding beer sales and revenue generation (go figure) and FSU is probably near completion waiting on the ACC to lock in their "additional" new schools before releasing them to go to the SEC.

The pac12 did put a monkey wrench in the little 12 situation, but I wouldn't be surprised to still see the OU/OSU cuzins heading west yet. Fexasss is bound to screw up the revenue sharing.....

Stay tuned...

With the aTm part out of the way, the other three(Mizzou, FSU, WV) may be coming on board to the SEC soon. I wouldn't expect to hear much until it is a done deal and the SEC announces all of them at once. Mizzou is a done deal more than likely. WV has a minor hold up regarding beer sales and revenue generation (go figure) and FSU is probably near completion waiting on the ACC to lock in their "additional" new schools before releasing them to go to the SEC.

The pac12 did put a monkey wrench in the little 12 situation, but I wouldn't be surprised to still see the OU/OSU cuzins heading west yet. Fexasss is bound to screw up the revenue sharing.....

Stay tuned...

Missouri chancellor Brady Deaton has resigned as the chairman of the Big 12 BOD.....

"We're going to be exploring options generally and will be making no comments about specific areas where we have begun to look at," he said.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...-tigers-curators-vote-consider-leaving-big-12

Well, that's pretty bizarre...WV to the Big 12. Looks like Mizzou to the SEC is done, just dealing with the legal bs....


http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...nia-mountaineers-formally-invited-join-big-12