The Trouble with Islam

[Bob]

You all are freaking ridiculous.:roll:

I suspect you of something......you have it all figured out and must be nuetralized!!

 

[30A Skunkape]

I suspect you of something......you have it all figured out and must be nuetralized!!

I know what I know and am frankly way too lazy to read back through the thread...and I realize I am not going to persuade anyone else, so why even get worked up? I work with an Iranian, as well as a dual Iraqi/Syrian... I vote, and I write my elected officials...that is about all that matters

 

[Allifunn]

Easy now, I'm tired from chasing mf. I was trying to be nice, but obviuosly how can you tell from this afternoons' workout of bs....right, mf???

I'll take it as nice.
....now back to our regurlary scheduled bs......continue all
(note my tar..... )

 

[Bob]

I'll take it as nice.
....now back to our regurlary scheduled bs......continue all
(note my tar..... )

so, you're a hijacker are you?

 

[Allifunn]

so, you're a hijacker are you?

:shock: .......................
every one must go screaming from this thread!

 

[mf]

phelps, to non-christians, may represent all christians. a fruitcake to you and me, does not make a fruitcake to all. the non-violent muslims may look at a vocal leader in the u.s.a. and think that all americans are like him, especially if they elected him or her as their leader. after seeing much of this repeatedly, they may begin to think that they should be more extreme to fight the evilness. i think that many of the iraquis may be put in the situation of defending their own, just like the south did against the north in the america's "civil war." the south wasn't fighting so much for slavery as they were fighting to keep the north off of their property and out of their towns. if we don't kill them, they are coming to kill us. that sounds familiar.

fair enough, a better way to say this may be to explain that he has no true power. while he might be a homophobe and hate american soldiers he has no right to murder them in our country.

so while phelps might be in agreement with some extreme islamists, i don't think they mistake him as having any power here.

as far as your assessment of the iraq war, i'm not sure i understand your analogy. i know that finally the shia majority is free to worship as they see fit. and that syria and iran have been fueling the fires there for sometimes now as they do in isreal. so it really involves many more parties than simply two-party fight.

 

[mf]

I know what I know and am frankly way too lazy to read back through the thread...and I realize I am not going to persuade anyone else, so why even get worked up? I work with an Iranian, as well as a dual Iraqi/Syrian... I vote, and I write my elected officials...that is about all that matters

amen :roll:
i'm sure we all vote and write our officials regularly! and for some of us this stuff strikes even closer to home.
i guess after living here a while, i was just getting desperate for a little intellectual debate. kinda shocked at the response :shock:

 

[mf]

somebody has a crush on me! can you say OBSESSION?

***Easy now, I'm tired from chasing mf. I was trying to be nice, but obviuosly how can you tell from this afternoons' workout of bs....right, mf???

***I would prefer to watch the sunset video of Ronald Reagan's funeral while holding hands with mf. I miss Ronny.

***The solution to all the world's problems, unobtainable, as it is, is that you are most likely confronting the enemy when you look in the mirror. It's between the ears on that big head of yours mf, because that's where compromise begins. Shut down that judgement mode, and listen to the other side.

**mf will fix the inferior religion

***mf may or may not have attended a Baptist service once

***Easy now, I'm tired from chasing mf. I was trying to be nice, but obviuosly how can you tell from this afternoons' workout of bs....right, mf???

 

[beachbob]

fair enough, a better way to say this may be to explain that he has no true power. while he might be a homophobe and hate american soldiers he has no right to murder them in our country.

so while phelps might be in agreement with some extreme islamists, i don't think they mistake him as having any power here.

as far as your assessment of the iraq war, i'm not sure i understand your analogy. i know that finally the shia majority is free to worship as they see fit. and that syria and iran have been fueling the fires there for sometimes now as they do in isreal. so it really involves many more parties than simply two-party fight.

sorry about that, mf. i was combining the two in thought. while i mentioned phelps, since he was in the discussion, and is a leader of a select group of christians, not too different than the radical islamists, even if on a much smaller scale, (sorry for the wordiness) you could exchange any leader, or perceived leader in his place for my discussion. any tv celebrity, for example, who stands up for a cause, and receives a following, could be perceived as a leader in the usa, by the people across the globe, whose source of information might be the internet and tv. this perceived leader could also be the president. just like the variations of beliefs within christianity, there are variations of americans, and not all are represented by one political figure, even though perception from around the world is that the elected official is the supreme leader. whatever leader it happens to be, if the radical islamics perceive that leader and our country as a threat, threats will be made against us as a whole, not against some of us in particular who have a particular belief. my us "civil war" thought fits in here, with the usa being the north in my analogy and the radical islamics being the south, who were being invaded, forcing them to take up arms in defense.

 

[mf]

sorry about that, mf. i was combining the two in thought. while i mentioned phelps, since he was in the discussion, and is a leader of a select group of christians, not too different than the radical islamists, even if on a much smaller scale, (sorry for the wordiness) you could exchange any leader, or perceived leader in his place for my discussion. any tv celebrity, for example, who stands up for a cause, and receives a following, could be perceived as a leader in the usa, by the people across the globe, whose source of information might be the internet and tv. this perceived leader could also be the president. just like the variations of beliefs within christianity, there are variations of americans, and not all are represented by one political figure, even though perception from around the world is that the elected official is the supreme leader. whatever leader it happens to be, if the radical islamics perceive that leader and our country as a threat, threats will be made against us as a whole, not against some of us in particular who have a particular belief. my us "civil war" thought fits in here, with the usa being the north in my analogy and the radical islamics being the south, who were being invaded, forcing them to take up arms in defense.

I get what you're going for, but I think it's tough to view the iraqui situation in such simplistic terms. Whether or not you agree with the war..which lordy! i will NOT get into actual politics hahahaha!
The situation with Syria and Iran and Al Queada in Afghanistan should not be overlooked. In my humble opinion it is a FAR more complex situation than the civil war.