New big blue signs in SoWal

[Dave Rauschkolb]

I am reading that Mary Brown wants to lower the signs to the "correct" height. Is that correct? We were told at the other workshop meeting that the tall signs were built to the MUTCD code heights which require the lowest portion of the legend of the sign to be at 7ft in height. So, I ask Mary Brown, what is the correct height, if the signs are not already at the correct height?

Those signs have no correct height along our scenic roads in any form. Lowering them is more wasted money because they will come down anyway. Mary Brown is sadly mistaken if she thinks lowering them will make them more palatable. We will not rest until they are all gone and we have new directional signs. We must be sure to be at the BCC meeting when they give the TDC recommendation a nod or no nod. We must hold the BCC accountable to be sure all the signs come down by the end of the season as promised by the TDC Board. We must stay on point and work to design appropriate new signs as soon as possible.

 

[rapunzel]

In my notes, I have that Mary Brown originally worded her resolution to leave the wayfinding signs up through the season, but when Ken Gifford and John Gilbert pressed her to define "the season" she reworded her motion to "until new signs are placed." I'm wondering if I missed part of the discussion? If they went back to the season wording, did they specify what the season meant?

I guess maybe I'm analyzing every word like a lawyer, and I should follow Dave's lead and be a little more zen about the whole thing. The signs are coming down. Hopefully the sea oats signs will be a quick thing, and the days of the blue signs will soon end.

On the bright side, driving 30A tonight, I noticed that each community sign has one for the eastbound lane, one for the west, so there are 18 community signs, and that means at least half of the monsters will be vanquished!

 

[Junebug88]

You know they could have saved themselves a whole lot of trouble and allowed me and my merry band of thieves dressed as Georgia Beach Tourists, tear them down.... you try to do some folks a favor !



Guess we know now who's responsible for the missing sign at the 331 bridge.

 

[northender]

I think it is a waste of tax payers money to take them down now. Bed tax or what ever tax it's still tax money we are wasting, where is the taxpayers association when we need them. one day we will wake up and regret it.

 

[John R]

Try this one:

You have been out maneuvered by the TDC Board.

1. Signs stay up

2. They get a coat of paint

3. Fountain grass planted at the base.

You loose because you do not realize you are in a war and are trying to mediate your way out of the fight.

I predict less than 50 people will show - alot of hollering, screeming and no real plan of action from the group

Thanks to all involved in this issue for their hard work and dedication.

The surprising vote for me was the Tim Norris vote. New on the Board - had no prior vote to protect and lives on 30-A.

Maurice and Mike's votes I understand - they are both up for reelection on the fire board. They both fill positions by virtue of their serving on that Board. If they were to be defeated in the upcoming election then they would be off the TDC board. But, I'm sure everyone else thought of that. (They are the required taxing authority representatives).

Keep up the hard work - you have them on the run !

apparently your prognostications were incorrect. you seem to have a different view now. can we look forward to another change if the wind blows in a different direction? what office do you hold?

 

[Smiling JOe]

Punzy, the motion by Mary Brown which passed, included that all wayfinding signs, including those on 30A, would have their height adjusted to the appropriate height and would be removed when new signs are manufactured and installed, to take the place of these current wayfinding signs.

 

[rapunzel]

Punzy, the motion by Mary Brown which passed, included that all wayfinding signs, including those on 30A, would have their height adjusted to the appropriate height and would be removed when new signs are manufactured and installed, to take the place of these current wayfinding signs.

Yes, but do you know if the motion that eventually passed allowed for the wayfinding signs to stay up until replaced, or just through the "season"? That was the point I wasn't sure I'd gotten correct.

I'm pretty optimistic that the BCC will not throw good money after bad in order to lower signs that are temporary.

 

[Smiling JOe]

The motion which passed had nothing to do with the season. She clarified it as the wayfinding (directional) signs would remain until they were replaced, and the Chairman even noted that the sooner everyone could get together to decide on new signs, the sooner the wayfinding signs could come down. That is when Dave said that they didn't need two months, that they were ready to meet next week.

I find it interesting that they didn't follow Robert's Rules of Order in the voting on Mr Gifford's motion.

 

[Matt J]

According to Mary Brown's own wording and the "seasonal rate schedule" on her business's website those signs should be coming down soon.

2008 Rate Calendar
Spring: March 1-March 14,
Spring: April 14- May 23
Spring Break:March 15-April 13
Summer:May 24-August 10
Fall:August 11- October 31
Winter:November 1- February 28, 2009

I'm pretty sure they said season and according to the above dates the Spring Break season will be ending April 13th.

In addition I searched the TDC's website and it mentions no seasonal dates.

 

[Smiling JOe]

"Through the season" around here means through Labor Day, but that was not the motion, as I understand it.