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Teresa

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I look forward to the Java and I pray you are right. Just not sure how we can risk the unknown. If we must look at history for our answers, drilling seems to be a poor decision. That is simply fact. Are you sure you are not the one being misled or the guy with an unreasonable slightly considered view on this particular issue?

Now the oil industry has found a new strategy ? exploit Americans? distress over high gas prices by claiming that offshore drilling will make gas cheaper. It?s not true, but, unfortunately, it?s working. Some of our elected officials are wavering, even backing the industry. And let?s face it ? it?s hard for an elected official to stand up against a lie that their constituents believe.

Your elected officials need to know you don?t buy the big oil lie, and you still want them to draw a line in the sand against offshore drilling in Florida


The oil industry is making record profits, proving it?s not a problem of availability; it?s a problem of greed. It banked $44 billion in just three months and spent $80 million on lobbyists to call for more drilling and to oppose real solutions. Oil companies have access to 68 million acres that they haven?t started to drill on yet. And the Department of Energy says offshore drilling will not make gas cheaper before 2030, and even then, the difference would be negligible.

Offshore drilling will not reduce gas prices!


BTW, we already have world class fishing.

I was going to say that! thanks bobbyj.:wave:
 

ASH

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Fulltime, while I agree that transporting oil will create hazards to shores due to accidents at sea, we can't ignore that the pipelines are just as big a hazard. How many pipelines that are leaking oil have been abandoned because of storm damage because of the high cost to even find them on the sea floor to even consider fixing them. Funny how that doesn't seem to make the big news like a ship piled up on a reef where it can't hide.

Apparently some of those big profits being made by big oil are being used to keep the media from reporting all the news.

What we don't see must not be hurting us......right?

I think I'll continue standing right here with my opinion that we need to do something other than poking more holes in Mother Earth to suck more life out of her.
 

Bobby J

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I think we all would be disgusted if we really knew what went down. Do you really think they report what we do not see when accidents occur? I know locally some recent incidents that were covered up and done at night so the general public would not become aware. Big local company. I overheard the conversation and they were laughing! By saying no to drilling we are simply trying to protect our already damaged and fragile ecosystem. As earlier stated they have 68 million acres of untouched area to drill. Why do you think they want to drill in the gulf folks? MONEY and GREED! Any argument outside of that is bunk. Why would they spend $80,000,000 lobbying the issue?
 

full time

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I think we all would be disgusted if we really knew what went down. Do you really think they report what we do not see when accidents occur? I know locally some recent incidents that were covered up and done at night so the general public would not become aware. Big local company. I overheard the conversation and they were laughing! By saying no to drilling we are simply trying to protect our already damaged and fragile ecosystem. As earlier stated they have 68 million acres of untouched area to drill. Why do you think they want to drill in the gulf folks? MONEY and GREED! Any argument outside of that is bunk. Why would they spend $80,000,000 lobbying the issue?

Off the oil for a second in a parallel universe. Would it not be better to prohibit surfing here altogether or is it OK to make some compromise on the environment, make great efforts to minimize the adverse impact on a pristine environment and promote a recreational activity that benefits humans' well-being?

http://www.surfrider.org.au/publications/041029_WA_NingalooReef.pdf
 

greenroomsurfer

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I love the fact that the federal government is dictating what Floridians can and can't do. IMO Congress s breaking the law everyday they are in session except for 2 weeks, but that is whole different issue. Wrong is wrong and right is right. Don't try and sugar coat it. Greed, you don't have to say anything else. Don't sheet where you eat!!!!
 

greenroomsurfer

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Off the oil for a second in a parallel universe. Would it not be better to prohibit surfing here altogether or is it OK to make some compromise on the environment, make great efforts to minimize the adverse impact on a pristine environment and promote a recreational activity that benefits humans' well-being?

http://www.surfrider.org.au/publications/041029_WA_NingalooReef.pdf
Surfing has absolutely nothing to do with it! Alternative energy! The Sun is free! Don't drink the corporate Kool-Aid! That is why we live hear so we can deal with the greedy people on a local level.
 

full time

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Surfing has absolutely nothing to do with it! Alternative energy! The Sun is free! Don't drink the corporate Kool-Aid! That is why we live hear so we can deal with the greedy people on a local level.

Frankly, I think it does have something to with the discussion. If I read the letter correctly, the organization is willing to make some concessions on the environment to promote the sport of surfing on and around a pristine reef. I read another article that there is a heated argument about whether surfing should be having a championship tournament at that location because of environmental concerns. I think surfers (and the public in general) would be better served if the organization was consistent in looking at potentially harmful activities in our Oceans and seeking compromise that maximizes human benefit while minimizing adverse environmental impact. BTW, when you call people "greedy" and accuse them of drinking "Kool-Aid, it does absolutely nothing to convince those who differ from you, that your position has even a scintilla of merit. Many on this board are clapping wildly, but 70% of the population (including in Florida) think your wrong and you and Bobby ain't changing minds with the comments here (not hear).
 

Bobby J

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Off the oil for a second in a parallel universe. Would it not be better to prohibit surfing here altogether or is it OK to make some compromise on the environment, make great efforts to minimize the adverse impact on a pristine environment and promote a recreational activity that benefits humans' well-being?

http://www.surfrider.org.au/publications/041029_WA_NingalooReef.pdf


I think you may be a little confused here. Are you comparing drilling in the gulf having the same adverse effects as surfing in he gulf. BTW, the Surfrider foundation is not all about just surfers. It is for all those that enjoy the water. Surfers as the article states are the first to be concerned about their activity in the waters. But to compare drilling and surfing? Very short sighted.
 

Bobby J

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Frankly, I think it does have something to with the discussion. If I read the letter correctly, the organization is willing to make some concessions on the environment to promote the sport of surfing on and around a pristine reef. I read another article that there is a heated argument about whether surfing should be having a championship tournament at that location because of environmental concerns. I think surfers (and the public in general) would be better served if the organization was consistent in looking at potentially harmful activities in our Oceans and seeking compromise that maximizes human benefit while minimizing adverse environmental impact. BTW, when you call people "greedy" and accuse them of drinking "Kool-Aid, it does absolutely nothing to convince those who differ from you, that your position has even a scintilla of merit. Many on this board are clapping wildly, but 70% of the population (including in Florida) think your wrong and you and Bobby ain't changing minds with the comments here (not hear).

They are consistent. You are only reading what you want to read into it. The 70% are clapping because they bought into the $80,000,000 spent to flip flop the real issue.
 
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