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mikecat adjuster

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Oct 18, 2007
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I have a suggestion. The park is suggested for closing because it is "lightly used". You and MikeCat and others who wish to keep it open at taxpayer expense need to each grab 10 or 20 of your buds (not beers) and go to the park each day so that it is no longer "lightly used". Voila - problem solved!

I appreciate your opinion. It can make sense for someone to not want to pay for something that they don't feel they use. I know that somethimes people argue, let's say elderly people or those without kids, that they should not have to pay the high propertry taxes in states like Texas, because a large portion of those taxes goes to the schools, and those elderly individuals or parentless people don't have kids who attend those nice schools.

But I just believe that Deer lake SP is worth a few grand a year. I also understand your point about a few grand adding up over the state, but an earlier post about the politicain who went overseas and those who joined him on the tax payers coin, surely you would agree that large sum of money should be cut before a state park. There are obviously many frivolous ways that money is spent, thus I consider this park to be priority over so many of them.

Okay, sorry, but don't read if you don't like sarcasm. This is in response to the fact that deer lake has 'little use'... I rarely see anyone in any of the dune lakes. How about we drain them of water, fill them in, and have more real estate for sale near the beach. Heck, virtualy no one uses them anyway.

Also, I don't see anyone using the sky above the homes around here, why the heck aren't we using that space to build monsrosity skyscraper condos like in Panama City and other beach resorts. I mean, look at the possible use we are squandering.

Come on.
 

TreeFrog

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Oct 11, 2005
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To use the county as a case in point, I haven't used the fire department, and hope not to, but I'm glad to help fund the county providing it. On the other hand, there are some county services I don't use, don't intend to use, and don't care for. But, I accept that my taxes will pay for them, because we don't have a system of selective taxation. One of government's historic responsibilities is furnishing parks for public use. Whether you personally like that or not, a portion of your taxes will be used for parks. And that's why the taxpayer should bear the burden. Despite fond wishes of some, most government functions don't function well in private hands and won't be privatized. So it goes...
 
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To use the county as a case in point, I haven't used the fire department, and hope not to, but I'm glad to help fund the county providing it. On the other hand, there are some county services I don't use, don't intend to use, and don't care for. But, I accept that my taxes will pay for them, because we don't have a system of selective taxation. One of government's historic responsibilities is furnishing parks for public use. Whether you personally like that or not, a portion of your taxes will be used for parks. And that's why the taxpayer should bear the burden. Despite fond wishes of some, most government functions don't function well in private hands and won't be privatized. So it goes...


Looks like M C is doing pretty good...

Walton County Property Appraiser's OfficeSearch Criteria: Owner Search=davis m c SEARCH PRODUCED THE FOLLOWING RESULTS. SELECT ONE BY CLICKING THE PARCEL NUMBER LINK IN THE FIRST COLUMN BELOW Parcel NumberOwner NameAddressHomestead 19-2N-17-05000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 19-2N-17-05000-002-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 20-2N-17-05000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 20-2N-17-05000-002-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 21-2N-17-05000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 22-2N-17-05000-011-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 23-2N-17-05000-009-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 26-2N-17-05000-002-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 27-2N-17-05000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 28-2N-17-05000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 29-2N-17-05000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 30-2N-17-05000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 31-2N-17-05000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 31-2N-17-05000-002-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 31-2N-17-05000-002-0010 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 32-2N-17-05000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 33-2N-17-05000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 34-2N-17-05000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 34-2N-17-05000-002-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 35-2N-17-05000-002-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 36-2N-17-05000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 32-3N-17-06000-011-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 33-3N-17-06000-008-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 02-1S-17-07050-00C-0010 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 06-1S-17-07000-001-0010 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 01-1N-18-08000-011-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 12-1N-18-08000-001-0010 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 12-1N-18-08000-002-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 12-1N-18-08000-003-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 13-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 14-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 15-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 15-1N-18-08000-002-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 16-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 16-1N-18-08000-002-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 17-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 18-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 19-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 19-1N-18-08000-001-0010 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 20-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 21-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 22-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 22-1N-18-08000-002-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 23-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 24-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 25-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 26-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 26-1N-18-08000-001-0010 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 27-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 27-1N-18-08000-002-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N Search Next 50 Parcels Print Mailing LabelsThe Walton County Tax Assessor's Office makes every effort to produce the most accurate information possible. No warranties, expressed or implied, are provided for the data herein, its use or interpretation. The assessment information is from the last certified taxroll. All data is subject to change before the next certified taxroll. Return to Main Search Walton Home

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Remember, M C controls these as well for conservation...


Walton County Property Appraiser's OfficeSearch Criteria: Owner Search=davis m c SEARCH PRODUCED THE FOLLOWING RESULTS. SELECT ONE BY CLICKING THE PARCEL NUMBER LINK IN THE FIRST COLUMN BELOW Parcel NumberOwner NameAddressHomestead 28-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 29-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 30-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 30-1N-18-08000-001-0010 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 30-1N-18-08000-001-0020 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 30-1N-18-08000-003-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 30-1N-18-08000-004-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 31-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 32-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 33-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 34-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 35-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 36-1N-18-08000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 36-1N-18-08000-003-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 01-1S-18-14000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 02-1S-18-14000-002-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 20-1S-18-14000-012-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 21-1S-18-14000-002-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 21-1S-18-14000-005-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 22-1S-18-14000-004-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 23-1S-18-14000-002-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 24-1S-18-14000-002-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 25-1S-18-14000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 26-1S-18-14000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 27-1S-18-14000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 28-1S-18-14000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 28-1S-18-14000-002-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 29-1S-18-14000-005-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 32-1S-18-14000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 33-1S-18-14000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 33-1S-18-14000-002-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 34-1S-18-14000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 35-1S-18-14000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 36-1S-18-14000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 01-2S-18-15000-000-0010 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 02-2S-18-15000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 06-2S-18-15000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 11-2S-18-15000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 11-2S-18-15000-002-0020 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 12-2S-18-15000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 13-1N-19-17000-001-0010 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 13-1N-19-17000-002-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 23-1N-19-17000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 24-1N-19-17000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 24-1N-19-17000-001-0020 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 26-1N-19-17000-001-0020 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 01-2S-19-24000-001-0001 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 01-2S-19-24000-001-0010 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 23-2S-20-33170-000-0290 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 27-2S-20-33210-000-0390 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N Search Next 50 Parcels Print Mailing LabelsThe Walton County Tax Assessor's Office makes every effort to produce the most accurate information possible. No warranties, expressed or implied, are provided for the data herein, its use or interpretation. The assessment information is from the last certified taxroll. All data is subject to change before the next certified taxroll. Return to Main Search Walton Home

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I think this is all private conservation. I'm sure the State and County could get buyers who would keep the property in its current state.

Walton County Property Appraiser's OfficeSearch Criteria: Owner Search=davis m c SEARCH PRODUCED THE FOLLOWING RESULTS. SELECT ONE BY CLICKING THE PARCEL NUMBER LINK IN THE FIRST COLUMN BELOW Parcel NumberOwner NameAddressHomestead 27-2S-20-33210-000-0410 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 27-2S-20-33210-000-0480 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 28-2S-20-33000-028-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 29-2S-20-33000-016-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 33-2S-20-33260-032-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE N 25-1N-19-17000-001-0010 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE 11275 US HWY 331 S FREEPORT N 33-1N-17-04000-001-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE 13292 CO RD 3280 N 22-2S-20-33120-063-0010 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE SRB N 14-1N-19-17000-002-0010 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE US HWY 331 N FREEPORT N 14-1N-19-17000-003-0000 DAVIS M C AS TRUSTEE OF THE US HWY 331 N FREEPORT N Print Mailing LabelsThe Walton County Tax Assessor's Office makes every effort to produce the most accurate information possible. No warranties, expressed or implied, are provided for the data herein, its use or interpretation. The assessment information is from the last certified taxroll. All data is subject to change before the next certified taxroll. Return to Main Search Walton Home

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Matt J

SWGB
May 9, 2007
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There are alternatives to Government ownership and Private Development. If it's worth remaining in its preserved state it can be purchased by one of the many nature conservancies.

Why do the taxpayers have to bear the costs associated with ownership?

There are groups that buy up land for conservation. However they donate them back to local, state, and federal government. Whether you like it or not government is one of the few entities that will be around long enough and have the resources to hold onto this land. Most of the great land owners in Florida that have donated land to the State and Federal governments did so as they knew that their wishes for that land would be respected.

Edward Ball donated his private lodge at Wakulla Springs to the State because he knew the state would keep it preserved as it was the day he died. Edward Ball was also one of the original St. Joe board members. He was also good friends with Alfred Maclay who donated Maclay Gardens to the state. In fact almost every state park in North Florida that started off as a private estate was related to Edward Ball in some way and he always encouraged them to donate the land to the state as it would be preserved and undeveloped.

If you ever go to FSU and tour the campus you will see a large grass portion in the middle of the campus known as Landis Green. It was donated by the Landis family's matriarc who was a graduate of the then Florida state school for women. She left strict instructions that it would be held by her family, but with perpetual use and care by the state if left as a green. If ever developed the family would be able to take it back.

Both of these examples are why people have donated land to the state, but the most important reason was for anybody and everybody to use and enjoy.
 
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waltonco lover

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Aug 18, 2008
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What does M C's land have to do with it? Deer Lake is a nice park, that is on the BEACH!
 
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