So, How Do We Open Our Minds....

[Lynnie]

I thought I changed my mind because I am a woman type.

 

[scooterbug44]

Hnooe's point was that you don't have to ACCEPT everything, but you do need to RESPECT the other culture, opinion, person in the discussion etc.

You can think the things you mentioned are wrong, and still be open-minded, but you need to at least understand why they might do them.

Being able to contextualize something or seeing why another culture might do or think something doesn't mean you give it your approval.

And IMO, we aren't too far from the craziness of neck rings and foot binding when teenagers are getting things implanted in them or people have parties where they inject toxins into their faces.

 

[GoodWitch58]

Right or wrong is often a subjective choice, based on the culture.

No one need agree with another's culture, but to acknowledge it, respect it, and be willing to attempt some understanding of it, makes for a more peaceful world IMO.

I just "don't get" trying to impose our (whomever) will over someone's else's.

 

[CampCreekLou]

Hnooe's point was that you don't have to ACCEPT everything, but you do need to RESPECT the other culture, opinion, person in the discussion etc.

You can think the things you mentioned are wrong, and still be open-minded, but you need to at least understand why they might do them.

Being able to contextualize something or seeing why another culture might do or think something doesn't mean you give it your approval.

And IMO, we aren't too far from the craziness of neck rings and foot binding when teenagers are getting things implanted in them or people have parties where they inject toxins into their faces.

I think the reverse should be true. I can accept (consider or hold as true) that these cultures demean and cripple the females of their culture, but I sure am not going to respect it.

Here's a couple quick definitions of respect:
1) esteem: the condition of being honored (esteemed or respected or well regarded); "it is held in esteem"; "a man who has earned high regard"
2) an attitude of admiration or esteem; "she lost all respect for him"

 

[CampCreekLou]

Right or wrong is often a subjective choice, based on the culture.

No one need agree with another's culture, but to acknowledge it, respect it, and be willing to attempt some understanding of it, makes for a more peaceful world IMO.

I just "don't get" trying to impose our (whomever) will over someone's else's.

So you think that it is OK to kill someone because they are gay, if only they have the unfortunate luck of living in another culture?

 

[LuciferSam]

I think the reverse should be true. I can accept (consider or hold as true) that these cultures demean and cripple the females of their culture, but I sure am not going to respect it.

Here's a couple quick definitions of respect:
1) esteem: the condition of being honored (esteemed or respected or well regarded); "it is held in esteem"; "a man who has earned high regard"
2) an attitude of admiration or esteem; "she lost all respect for him"

I agree totally. Some people, cultures and ideas are simply not worthy of respect.

 

[hnooe]

Hnooe's point was that you don't have to ACCEPT everything, but you do need to RESPECT the other culture, opinion, person in the discussion etc.

You can think the things you mentioned are wrong, and still be open-minded, but you need to at least understand why they might do them.

Being able to contextualize something or seeing why another culture might do or think something doesn't mean you give it your approval.

And IMO, we aren't too far from the craziness of neck rings and foot binding when teenagers are getting things implanted in them or people have parties where they inject toxins into their faces.

Thank you love Ms Scooterbug gets me --that is why I loves her! I means it!!!!!!

 

[scooterbug44]

I think the reverse should be true. I can accept (consider or hold as true) that these cultures demean and cripple the females of their culture, but I sure am not going to respect it.

Here's a couple quick definitions of respect:
1) esteem: the condition of being honored (esteemed or respected or well regarded); "it is held in esteem"; "a man who has earned high regard"
2) an attitude of admiration or esteem; "she lost all respect for him"

Here's the definition I am using:

respect: deference to a right, privilege, privileged position, or someone or something considered to have certain rights or privileges; proper acceptance or courtesy; acknowledgment

Dismissing an entire culture or group of opinions is what gets us into these messes in the first place. And we aren't above reproach.

You can keep bringing up the example of how awful it is to kill someone for being gay and dismiss THAT culture, but since gays are still beaten, harassed and killed in the US because of their sexual orientation................

 

[LuciferSam]

Here's the definition I am using:

respect: deference to a right, privilege, privileged position, or someone or something considered to have certain rights or privileges; proper acceptance or courtesy; acknowledgment

Dismissing an entire culture or group of opinions is what gets us into these messes in the first place. And we aren't above reproach.

You can keep bringing up the example of how awful it is to kill someone for being gay and dismiss THAT culture, but since gays are still beaten, harassed and killed in the US because of their sexual orientation................

If it happens in this country it's your moral imperative to disrespect the individuals who do this. In fact that's a severe understatement. If it's done as part of a group, club, religion, creed, political affiliation then you must disrespect that culture.

 

[30ashopper]

There are no absolutes when it comes to accepting certain cultural habits I guess. All good points.