Obama doctrine kills 60 in Pakistan

[30ashopper]

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — An airstrike believed to have been carried out by a United States drone killed at least 60 people at a funeral for a Taliban fighter in South Waziristan on Tuesday, residents of the area and local news reports said.

Family members mourned Mr. Zainuddin, a tribal leader, on Tuesday in Abbotabad.

Details of the attack, which occurred in Makeen, remained unclear, but the reported death toll was exceptionally high. If the reports are indeed accurate and if the attack was carried out by a drone, the strike could be the deadliest since the United States began using the aircraft to fire remotely guided missiles at members of the Taliban and Al Qaeda in the tribal areas of Pakistan. The United States carried out 22 previous drone strikes this year, as the Obama administration has intensified a policy inherited from the Bush administration.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/world/asia/24pstan.html

You have to enjoy their ability to spin a good story at least.

 

[kkddbb]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/world/asia/24pstan.html

You have to enjoy their ability to spin a good story at least.

your biggest mistake was reading the NYSlimes. as if youll get the whole truth and nothing but the truth from that toilet of a newspaper.

the attack happend, but every [real]intelligence source ive seen has the death toll alot less. besides, it was a funeral for a TALIBAN member. this is about the only thing the president has actually done right thus far.

 

[hnooe]

Well there's ya a "doctrine" that actually had minumal casualties.

 

[scooterbug44]

So it was either the US or the Pakistan government responsible, and it was either a drone or a cruise missile, and they don't know who was killed or how many, but we took out a couple bad guys either way.

Sorry, I'll save my outrage for when they actually have some minor details and the dead aren't terrorists or terrorist sympathizers. :roll:

 

[kkddbb]

turns out the pakistani taliban chief just left and was missed. its so wonder why that was a target. wise move, but they missed-bummer. we'll get em

 

[Bob]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/world/asia/24pstan.html

You have to enjoy their ability to spin a good story at least.

read up on the dresden bombings, then try slaughterhouse five, and get back to us.

 

[30ashopper]

The anti-war anti-Bush anti-Afghanistan anti-Iraq crowd justifying bombing villages in Pakistan now that a democrat is giving the orders... We have come full circle!

 

[hnooe]

The anti-war anti-Bush anti-Afghanistan anti-Iraq crowd justifying bombing villages in Pakistan now that a democrat is giving the orders... We have come full circle!

A "death graph" might help clarify things. Do X values as "past presidents" and a Y value as "war deaths" (start with Geo. Washington) so there is no debate.

 

[30ashopper]

A "death graph" might help clarify things. Do X values as "past presidents" and a Y value as "war deaths" (start with Geo. Washington) so their is no debate.

I don't think you'd want to use that as justification, democrats cost the country more lives in wars than republicans by a very wide margin.

117,465 - WWI / Wilson (D)
418,500 - WWII / Roosevelt (D)
70,000 - Korea / Truman (D)
60,000 - Vietnam / Kennedy (D), Johnson (D)
293 - Gulf War I / Bush (R)
630 - Afghanistan / Bush (R)
4800 - Iraq / Bush (R)
82 - Afghanistan / Obama (D)
96 - Iraq / Obama (D)

Reps total: ~5700
Dems total: ~666,000

Plus a whole host of smaller conflicts like Kosovo.

Compared to Republicans, you guys are a bunch of freaking war mongers man!

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_casualties_of_war"]United States casualties of war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

 

[poppy]

I don't think you'd want to use that as justification, democrats cost the country more lives in wars than republicans by a very wide margin.

117,465 - WWI / Wilson (D)
418,500 - WWII / Roosevelt (D)
70,000 - Korea / Truman (D)
60,000 - Vietnam / Kennedy (D), Johnson (D)
293 - Gulf War I / Bush (R)
630 - Afghanistan / Bush (R)
4800 - Iraq / Bush (R)
82 - Afghanistan / Obama (D)
96 - Iraq / Obama (D)

Reps total: ~5700
Dems total: ~666,000

Plus a whole host of smaller conflicts like Kosovo.

Compared to Republicans, you guys are a bunch of freaking war mongers man!

United States casualties of war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nice list but in complete:


60+- Blackhawk War / Jackson (D)
1500- Second Siminole / Jackson (D) Van Buren (D)
13283-Mexican American / Polk (D)
26-3rd Seminole War / Pierce (D) Buchanan (D)
625,000- Civil war / Lincoln (R)
919- Indian Wars / lasted 33 yr. 6 of 9 POTUS (R)
3- Korean expedition / Grant (R)
2446- Spanish-American / McKinley (R)
4196- Philipine-American / Mckinley (R) Roosevelt (R) Taft (R)
37- Boxer Rebellion / McKinley (R)
35- Mexican Revolution / Wilson (D)
146- Occupation of Haiti / Wilson (D) Harding (R) Coolidge (R) Hoover (R)
Roosevelt (D)

Don't cheat these guys out of their fair share of the count. Why did you conveniently leave out Lincoln?