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Matt J

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May 9, 2007
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It has no comparison to Joe Wilson. Grayson didn't scream it at the POTUS like a 3 year-old.

Please explain the Republican plan that doesn't encourage millions to simply die quickly.
 

fisher

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Sep 19, 2005
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It has no comparison to Joe Wilson. Grayson didn't scream it at the POTUS like a 3 year-old.

Please explain the Republican plan that doesn't encourage millions to simply die quickly.

The Dems are not allowing the Repubs a chance to offer up any legislation. However, here is a good summary from Roy Blunt of what many Republicans think will improve the healthcare system without turning it over to the federal govt. I don't think any of the proposals encourages millions to die.

http://www.gopleader.gov/UploadedFiles/06-17-09_House__GOP_Solutions__Group__Outline.pdf
 
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fisher

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Sep 19, 2005
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shrill liberal wingnut name caller

You taught me well. But, I'm not calling you (you are actually fun to banter back and forth with ;-)) or any group of people idiots. Just this one guy who is an idiot for what he said. I happened to turn on CNN for a few minutes this evening and even they are calling the guy an idiot.

By the way, I think Joe Wilson (a fellow conservative) is an idiot (not a racist) for what he said to POTUS (not for his views on most things) a few weeks back.
 
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kkddbb

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May 13, 2009
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The Dems are not allowing the Repubs a chance to offer up any legislation. However, here is a good summary from Roy Blunt of what many Republicans think will improve the healthcare system without turning it over to the federal govt. I don't think any of the proposals encourages millions to die.

http://www.gopleader.gov/UploadedFiles/06-17-09_House__GOP_Solutions__Group__Outline.pdf


good post. but, if someone wants to hear about the gop plan all they need to do is look, its there. the problem is noone in our media other than fox is allowing them to speak. good ol bipartisanship by our ever so bipartisan dnc-NOT! in the end, itll be the gop plan or something very similiar that passes. until than, we all need to play the liberal game of smearing. its amazing how little youll learn on todays media and the games they play against the american people.
 

Yzarctoo

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Both guys...Wilson and Grayson aren't exactly models of what I think my Congress should be... I too have screamed at the TV in emotional outbursts ...at politicians and at Obama for misleading and telling stories or untruths that disagreed with my opinions...Grayson planned his "screaming" he had his three poorly made posters, he had the cameras, he had his audience,he knew exactly what was going to come out of his mouth...I believe Wilson had an emotional slip...he also was a bigger man...he apoligized...Grayson on the other hand just dug himself in deeper and called Republicans cavemen...with very long arms....bet we will never hear the word "sorry" out of his mouth....for either statement and I bet right now he is standing in front of his mirror practicing some more one line Republican zingers....Shame on both men...but Grayson, who represents my state, and in a way me, should be taken behind the barn by his fellow congress folks, for a friendly little Attitude Adjustment as my old Grandpa would say.
 

Matt J

SWGB
May 9, 2007
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The Dems are not allowing the Repubs a chance to offer up any legislation. However, here is a good summary from Roy Blunt of what many Republicans think will improve the healthcare system without turning it over to the federal govt. I don't think any of the proposals encourages millions to die.

http://www.gopleader.gov/UploadedFiles/06-17-09_House__GOP_Solutions__Group__Outline.pdf

I see a lot of propaganda with no actual plan. Basically it's a thinly veiled swipe at the Democrats and plenty of good old GOP fear mongering.
 

fisher

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Sep 19, 2005
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I see a lot of propaganda with no actual plan. Basically it's a thinly veiled swipe at the Democrats and plenty of good old GOP fear mongering.

Please, as succinctly as Blunt did for the repub plan, explain what the dems are proposing. Have you read the thousand plus pages to understand exactly what they are proposing??? Or, are you relying on sound bites.

The repub outline is just that, an outline. They are not being allowed to draft the actual legislation. They are being excluded from the process. The good news is, the dems are divided amongst themselves. As long as they remain divided, its good news. If they somehow manage to rally all hands around some of the scarier parts of the legislation, we are in big trouble.
 

Matt J

SWGB
May 9, 2007
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9,670
Please, as succinctly as Blunt did for the repub plan, explain what the dems are proposing. Have you read the thousand plus pages to understand exactly what they are proposing??? Or, are you relying on sound bites.

The repub outline is just that, an outline. They are not being allowed to draft the actual legislation. They are being excluded from the process. The good news is, the dems are divided amongst themselves. As long as they remain divided, its good news. If they somehow manage to rally all hands around some of the scarier parts of the legislation, we are in big trouble.

Who's holding the gun stopping them?
 
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