Cops in Miramar Beach? WCSO operations & DUI discussion

[scooterbug44]

Do you really think people driving drunk are NOT more likely to be involved in an accident?

Yes, other factors may contribute to accidents, but when the only variable is the sobriety of the driver they ARE more likely to get in an accident.

 

[Matt J]

Swgb
where are the police being trained to draw blood and share more details please.
I have seen nothing on this.
If so that is incredable.

I believe it's currently Utah and Minnesota. Basically started when a phlebotomist became a cop. I'd give it about 5 years before it's standard.

 

[PJJ]

Point of order - just as someone who has been arrested for driving under the influence when they believe their facilities were not impaired is less credible in this argument, the same is true of those who have suffered through the tragedy of losing a loved one to a drunken driver as both are more apt to succumb to the emotion rather than reason necessary to digest such an argument.

Just wanted to throw that out for the constant "until you lose a loved one you have no idea how drunk driving can impact societys" comments.

Have a nice day.

 

[Douglas the Intrepid]

Point of order - just as someone who has been arrested for driving under the influence when they believe their facilities were not impaired is less credible in this argument, the same is true of those who have suffered through the tragedy of losing a loved one to a drunken driver as both are more apt to succumb to the emotion rather than reason necessary to digest such an argument.

Just wanted to throw that out for the constant "until you lose a loved one you have no idea how drunk driving can impact societys" comments.

Have a nice day.

The order of magnitude is vastly disproportionate. Someone emotionally upset over being arrested for a DUI for any reason can not be compared to someone who had a loved one KILLED and taken out of their lives PERMANENTLY by someone who should have been arrested for a DUI. The person with the DUI made a conscious choice to get in their vehicle after drinking. The person who loses a loved one has no choice or options.

Fortunately credibility has absolutely nothing to do with this thread. The bottom line is driving while intoxicated is against the law for any reason. Regardless of why you are pulled over, if your drunk your going to pay, and that is not going to change no matter how much anyone ***** about it and makes excuses. Thank god.

 

[PJJ]

The order of magnitude is vastly disproportionate. Someone emotionally upset over being arrested for a DUI for any reason can not be compared to someone who had a loved one KILLED and taken out of their lives PERMANENTLY by someone who should have been arrested for a DUI. The person with the DUI made a conscious choice to get in their vehicle after drinking. The person who loses a loved one has no choice or options.

Good point. A person who has lost a loved one is much less likely to engage in reasonable debate due to the emotional distress they've suffered. That furthers the point that such individuals should excuse themselves from drafting legislation or executing the law w/r/t the crime. Thanks.

 

[Douglas the Intrepid]

Good point. A person who has lost a loved one is much less likely to engage in reasonable debate due to the emotional distress they've suffered. That furthers the point that such individuals should excuse themselves from drafting legislation or executing the law w/r/t the crime. Thanks.

I have no problem with that as most reasonable people agree that driving while drunk is detrimental to society on all levels and strong laws need to be and have been enacted to dissuade the practice.

 

[emeraldcoastdav]

John r
my point re: the road construction was the number of traffic deaths as a result. In my mind the state or the contractor should have been prosicuted for the lapse in controls. I wonder how many of those deaths were attributed to alcohol.
In my mind someone on alcohol that was wreckless driving and someone that was sober wreckless driving should have the same penalty. Someone who had consumed alcohol and wrecked with other reasons contributing should be looked at differently.

 

[PJJ]

I have no problem with that as most reasonable people agree that driving while drunk is detrimental to society on all levels and strong laws need to be and have been enacted to dissuade the practice.

I'll ignore the fallacy that a person is automatically unreasonable if they don't believe that driving while subjectively drunk is detrimental to all society and/or that strong laws need to be enacted and be grateful that we have some common ground here.

 

[Douglas the Intrepid]

I'll ignore the fallacy that a person is automatically unreasonable if they don't believe that driving while subjectively drunk is detrimental to all society and/or that strong laws need to be enacted and be grateful that we have some common ground here.

I will just look to the reality of the simple fact that strong laws have been enacted and are being enforced locally and be happy with that.

 

[scooterbug44]

Subjectively drunk? Is that like sorta pregnant?

There is a quantifiable and easily tested legal standard..................and literally tons of evidence that driving under the influence is an impairment.