Wow! Did he say it like it is

[Bob]

I write this with complete awareness of the stars in my eyes, but I've always liked the way they used to do it in China. Each village had a doctor, and all villagers paid the doctor as long as they stayed well. When they got sick, they stopped paying, till they got well again. Since TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) includes diet and exercise as well as herbs and acupuncture, each villager shared responsibility for staying healthy with the doc.

Because docs got paid for keeping folks well, rather than getting paid for treating them for illness, they learned to detect and remediate imbalances in the system long before any serious disease manifested.

I guess the main idea here is, we have a health care system that is all about sickness, crisis management if you will, rather than about wellness and crisis prevention. Seems pretty wack to me.

you are creatively maladjusted. please stay that way.

 

[LuciferSam]

I write this with complete awareness of the stars in my eyes, but I've always liked the way they used to do it in China. Each village had a doctor, and all villagers paid the doctor as long as they stayed well. When they got sick, they stopped paying, till they got well again. Since TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) includes diet and exercise as well as herbs and acupuncture, each villager shared responsibility for staying healthy with the doc.

Because docs got paid for keeping folks well, rather than getting paid for treating them for illness, they learned to detect and remediate imbalances in the system long before any serious disease manifested.

I guess the main idea here is, we have a health care system that is all about sickness, crisis management if you will, rather than about wellness and crisis prevention. Seems pretty wack to me.

I don't put much trust in medical practices coming from a culture that repeatedly slaughters exotic animals for their aphrodisiac effect speaking of whack.

 

[Susan Horn]

I don't put much trust in medical practices coming from a culture that repeatedly slaughters exotic animals for their aphrodisiac effect speaking of whack.

Does that mean you like to throw the baby out with the bathwater?

 

[scooterbug44]

I don't put much trust in medical practices coming from a culture that repeatedly slaughters exotic animals for their aphrodisiac effect speaking of whack.

You should take a good hard look at many "Western" ideas of what is good for you. :roll:

 

[LuciferSam]

You should take a good hard look at many "Western" ideas of what is good for you. :roll:

I'll take our healthcare, lifestyle, attitude, tradition and culture over theirs any day of the year. I admire their manufacturing capability, thats about it. Of course they have to destroy the environment in th process. I guarantee you in a western minute they drop the charade and use our medical practices when an emergency occurs. They can have their horny goat weed and powdered rhino horn, dried tiger heart and whatever other nonsensical crap they manage to come up with. They can also engage in aggregious human rights abuses. Yeah right, let's adopt their lifestyle!

 

[LuciferSam]

Does that mean you like to throw the baby out with the bathwater?

I think that's what the Chinese do if it's not the right gender.

 

[scooterbug44]

Susan's point is that we should be more focused on preventative medicine and not so much on reactionary medicine.

A large portion of our health care expenses are due to lack of preventative care.

Reward doctors for having healthy patients, not for prescribing medications and running tests.

 

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[LuciferSam]

Susan's point is that we should be more focused on preventative medicine and not so much on reactionary medicine.

A large portion of our health care expenses are due to lack of preventative care.

Reward doctors for having healthy patients, not for prescribing medications and running tests.

Maybe so, but I like knowing that I can abuse my body and still make it past age 80. Bring on the stents, pills, surgery, cutting, genetic reengineering, chemicals, biotech yadda yadda I'm all for it. I'd much prefer that to a boring old holistic lifestyle nibbling on greens and being one with the earth whatever the hell that means.

Why would I want to live my way? Because I CAN, that's why. Furthermore, I've never had a doctor who didn't encourage healthy practices. It's a myth and urban legend that doctors don't want you to get well so they can make more money. Every orthopedic surgeon I've ever met discourages running as exercise. From my own experience that advice is spot on.

So I like knowing that if I need it, expensive knee replacement surgery will make me almost good as new. So while others are out drinking their herbal tea limping around, I'll be sitting on the couch watching TV with my brand new perfect knee! It doesn't get any better than that. Of course the knee will probably be made in China by some factory worker who has an online TCM store on ebay geared towards impressionable Westerners. CHACHING!

This isn't an issue of cultural lifestyle anyway, it's an issue of personal responsibility. It's like that joke:

So the Zen master steps up to the hot dog cart and says: "Make me one with everything."

The hot dog vendor fixes a hot dog and hands it to the Zen master, who pays with a $20 bill. The hot dog vendor puts the bill in the cash drawer and closes the drawer.

"Where's my change?" asks the Zen master. And the hot dog vendor responds: "Change must come from within."​

 

[scooterbug44]

And the majority of people who have knee replacement surgery are told to lose 10-50 lbs beforehand. Sports is not the #1 reason people tend to need the surgery.

Papa Scooterbug went to the informational meeting before his knee replacement surgery and said he felt like an anoxeric.