Lowering the speed limit on 30A?

[robertsondavies]

This isn't about banning vehicles. In fact it's the exact opposite. We want all vehicles to have access.

So John since larger vehicles are much deadlier because they cause more damage and destruction when involved in any accident, and you're focused on safety... Seems the larger vehicles are the problem.

I want to buy an LSV now.

This isn't about safety really to the naysayers. Safety is just the last good thing to fall back on, when it's fairly clear most environmental groups support LSV usage. What they really want is to be able to go 55 or 60MPH, on those last tiny stretches of 45MPH on 30A, and don't want to slow down for 1 Minute for an LSV going 30 on those tiny stretches.

What they really want is quick convenience, - let's not kid ourselves.

 

[graytonphotographer]

I really dont think its a good idea. Youve got to think about the people that MUST drive on it everyday. It would then be a slower commute to where they have to go. Sure people could drive golf carts on the road, but 35 mph. Thats to slow for a small highway.

 

[Lake Eastern]

Please realize that there are still folks who need to get to work and aren't here on vacation. There are long stretches of 30-A that just do not need to be 35 mph. I still regret the planners didn't listen to oldtimers like Gene Wesley when they requested a 3rd lane for turning before they gave up the easements along 30A.

 

[AndrewG]

You're just going to have a take a different route or plan ahead and leave earlier. 30-a is not a highway anymore if it ever was. Young kids frequently ride bikes, walk right next to it. Everything about 30-A is slowing it down for safety reasons.

There are 3 different cut ins to 30-A from 98 now not including the ends.

 

[John R]

This isn't about safety really to the naysayers. Safety is just the last good thing to fall back on, when it's fairly clear most environmental groups support LSV usage. What they really want is to be able to go 55 or 60MPH, on those last tiny stretches of 45MPH on 30A, and don't want to slow down for 1 Minute for an LSV going 30 on those tiny stretches.

What they really want is quick convenience, - let's not kid ourselves.

robertsondavies, you've been using a very broad brush with your use of they. Please don't presume to know my motivation(s). If I want quick convenience, I use 98. But I live here and require use of 30A daily, I know the perils of my decisions. I believe you don't live here. Is that correct?

 

[Matt J]

30A is a highway, ever notice the sign? It's a County Highway sign. I'm betting most people don't know that 30A used to run along the beach through WaterColor and Grayton? What is now Blue Mountain Beach Road used to be a section of 30A.

Just putting a penny on the tracks.

 

[robertsondavies]

30A is a highway, ever notice the sign? It's a County Highway sign. I'm betting most people don't know that 30A used to run along the beach through WaterColor and Grayton? What is now Blue Mountain Beach Road used to be a section of 30A.

Just putting a penny on the tracks.

Sorry, 30A is not a 'hwy' despite its name. There are stop signs in Seaside that would indicate to a reasonable person standard, that its not. and I support those stop signs by the way - obviously the crowd here that can't go a little slower for 2 miles on the Deer Lake stretch would also have been against putting 2 stop signs in Seaside, which effectively lowers your average speed through Seaside, to below 15MPH, counting the stops.

Why not just take Seaside itself out... it would speed up your trip times - take the tourism out? I say the "convenience" of locals trip times is a necessary victim to the area being a vacation resort area. Sorry to locals who are really peeved by that

All those in favor of keeping the random stop signs on 30A like those in Seaside, say AYE.

 

[robertsondavies]

robertsondavies, you've been using a very broad brush with your use of they. Please don't presume to know my motivation(s). If I want quick convenience, I use 98. But I live here and require use of 30A daily, I know the perils of my decisions. I believe you don't live here. Is that correct?

ok, enlighten me. What is your specific motivation again why you can't have LSV's travel on the 2 mile stretch at Deer Lake state park on 30A, like the State has wisely allowed everywhere else south of 98?

Maybe its the case that you're not striving for a bit of extra convenience that speeding through that stretch provides - remind me what makes your argument distinct from the broad brush that was so dangerously wielded by me. LOL

What is your motivation?

please don't say "safety" willy nilly, because for example 'one time' you saw a 14 year old driving one. Unless you've got the goods to refute what 10 years of Actuaries from insurance companies empirically know about LSV's then go to your next reason please. We who support LSV' use expansion, would like to fully consider all arguments against it.

keep the dialogue going. I meant no disrespect by my use of the term "THEY" - really. I was categorizing unfairly perhaps - lets stick to the issues here (myself included) all.

1. Is 30A a cohesive resort area, or not?
2. Should the last couple miles of 30A be made LSV compatible by reducing the speed limit thereon from 45 to 35?

3. Should bikers, helmetless pedestrians and LSV's been banned from the HIGHWAY 30A altogether, reserving it to be the last bastion of speedy thoroughfare for construction trucks, delivery trucks, and heavy artillery?

 

[Geo]

Rdavies,
FTLOG, Highway 30a is a highway, road, street, etc.

It matters not what you semantically care to define it.

No one believes we should remove stop signs where they make sense.

This IS a safety issue.

I will gladly step forward and say that I personally don't want to slow down on the stretch of highway 30a that has a posted speed limit of 45mph so someone can ride their street legal golfcart or LSV on the highway.

This isn't a proSUV, gas guzzling, anti-environment rant.

 

[AndrewG]

There is an exponential decrease in deaths as speed limits decrease. By reducing the speeds on 30-A lives will be saved. What would Jesus do? You have to do the right thing and change the status quo.