Death but no taxes

[poppy]

That is really off point, sort of like saying if your house is ablaze the FD has to spray my house too. We are talking about each citizen who benefits from government services paying their fair share for those services. If the person making 50,000 pays 15% then everyone else should pay the same 15%. The fair tax exempts income earned up to the poverty level and then requires every citizen to pay the same percentage of the remaining income. So if the poverty rate is 30,000 and you make 50,000 you would owe 15% or some detirmined percentage of the remaining 20,000, or 3,000. Another idea with merit is to exempt the poverty level wages from FICA and medicare taxes and raise the upper limit.

A fair tax is usually defined as a tax someone else pays.

It all sounds so simple until you get down to the definition of fair, what's fair to one person can seem unfair to another.

 

[Andy A]

Look, I'll be the first to admit I don't know what comprises a fair tax system. I only think that everyone in the U.S. should have to pay a determined portion of their income as a tax if others have to do so. It is the only way to really appreciate what you receive from your government. In paying your taxes you become a contributor, not a panhandler.

 

[Andy A]

Sorry. Somewhere I lost the trend of the thread. So what else is new? How did we go from estate tax to income tax? To clarify my position, I think estate or "death taxes" are unfair, immoral and reprehensible. Is that clear enough a position?

 

[idlewind]

Look, I'll be the first to admit I don't know what comprises a fair tax system. I only think that everyone in the U.S. should have to pay a determined portion of their income as a tax if others have to do so. It is the only way to really appreciate what you receive from your government. In paying your taxes you become a contributor, not a panhandler.

The simplest system frequently is the most fair. When you begin to go down the road of exemptions you lose the underlying fairness. If I pay 20% then Bill Gates should pay 20%. I will conceed to the progressives that income below the poverty line should be exempt but everything else should be fair game. ( play on words intentional)

 

[idlewind]

Sorry. Somewhere I lost the trend of the thread. So what else is new? How did we go from estate tax to income tax? To clarify my position, I think estate or "death taxes" are unfair, immoral and reprehensible. Is that clear enough a position?

Crystal clear and on point.I happen to agree 100% too.

 

[30ashopper]

I keep picturing this western, I think it was with Gene Hackman and Sharon Stone, where every time somebody got shot in a duel, the dregs of the town ran out and stripped the guy down to his undewear.

"He's dead."

"I get his shoes!"

"I got his watch!"

 

[30ashopper]

Ah, The Quick and The Dead

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Quick_and_the_Dead_(1995_film)

 

[poppy]

I keep picturing this western, I think it was with Gene Hackman and Sharon Stone, where every time somebody got shot in a dual, the dregs of the town ran out and stripped the guy down to his undewear.

"He's dead."

"I get his shoes!"

"I got his watch!"

Interesting concept. :scratch:

Strother Martin and Warren Oates did much the same thing in The wild Bunch

 

[30ashopper]

Is it dual or duel?
- ah duel.

 

[Bob]

You are going to have to explain that one.

massive disparities in income asked to pay the same rate is grossly unjust. it perpetuates a caste system.