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LuciferSam

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Apr 26, 2008
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Those occupations may soon return if many such as you have their way. I really don't know where you come up with "every single drop of oil from the earth" bit but I have never seen that projected by anybody. There are sensible and sane ways to recover petro but at every step of the way, oil companies are thwarted by those wishing to go back to the 17th century. I am sorry but I like my present lifestyle and really do feel we have the knowledge, expertise and wherewithall to do what needs to be done and still maintain a strong, vibrant environment.

No, the people protesting the indiscriminate extraction and use of oil are the ones who want to move forward with new technologies. The Luddites are the petroleum advocates.
 

Andy A

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Feb 28, 2007
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Blue Mountain Beach
No, the people protesting the indiscriminate extraction and use of oil are the ones who want to move forward with new technologies. The Luddites are the petroleum advocates.
Fine. You keep riding your bicycle, I'll drive my car.
 

30ashopper

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Apr 30, 2008
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Right here!
How you can consider adoption/suppression of new technologies to be anything but a step forward/backward is beyond me.

I don't think Andy is suppressing anything, he's just being a realist. Are you putting your money on the table to do your part? Do you have solar panels on your house? Do ride your bike to work? Maybe you should stop lecturing everyone and get busy adopting new technologoes to help move us forward.
 

LuciferSam

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Apr 26, 2008
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I don't think Andy is suppressing anything, he's just being a realist. Are you putting your money on the table to do your part? Do you have solar panels on your house? Do ride your bike to work? Maybe you should stop lecturing everyone and get busy adopting new technologoes to help move us forward.

Very simply I'm driving my car a lot less than I was a couple of years ago and staying home a lot more often. This is not because I can't afford to drive the way I used to. It is with the deliberate intent of putting the screws to the oil industry. Further more my average mpg has gone from 20 to 30 in that time period. Solar panels aren't far off, but neither are solar power providers. The Gulf oil volcano has opened a few eyes. Feast yours on this:

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poppy

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Sep 10, 2008
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Miramar Beach
Those occupations may soon return if many such as you have their way. I really don't know where you come up with "every single drop of oil from the earth" bit but I have never seen that projected by anybody. There are sensible and sane ways to recover petro but at every step of the way, oil companies are thwarted by those wishing to go back to the 17th century. I am sorry but I like my present lifestyle and really do feel we have the knowledge, expertise and wherewithall to do what needs to be done and still maintain a strong, vibrant environment.

Andy, this is the second post recently where you have claimed that if I have my way it will somehow screw up your way of life. I realize you conservatives need constant fear and someone to blame in order to survive, be it the wrath of god or liberals and conservatives trying to protect mother earth. If I am in some way helping to fullfill that need then I'm happy to oblige.

If you have some secret information on earths oil reserves being infinite or the oil companies have a maximum number of barrels they will extract before shutting down operations please share it with the rest us.
 

poppy

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Sep 10, 2008
2,854
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Miramar Beach
I don't think Andy is suppressing anything, he's just being a realist. Are you putting your money on the table to do your part? Do you have solar panels on your house? Do ride your bike to work? Maybe you should stop lecturing everyone and get busy adopting new technologoes to help move us forward.

I had solar panels intalled on my home in the late 70's. They were expense to purchase and maintain. After 20yrs. I had them removed and installed a well insulated gas heater and didn't notice any increase in my energy bill.
 

Andy A

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Feb 28, 2007
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Blue Mountain Beach
How you can consider adoption/suppression of new technologies to be anything but a step forward/backward is beyond me.
Do you ever remember anything you read? And please spare telling me you don't read what is posted by me. I have said on many occasions that we need new technologies to be developed and put in place. I have also said it will not happen over night and we must have a bridge to reach them. Regardless of how you may couch it, that bridge is fossil fuels.
 

Andy A

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Feb 28, 2007
4,389
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Blue Mountain Beach
Andy, this is the second post recently where you have claimed that if I have my way it will somehow screw up your way of life. I realize you conservatives need constant fear and someone to blame in order to survive, be it the wrath of god or liberals and conservatives trying to protect mother earth. If I am in some way helping to fullfill that need then I'm happy to oblige.

If you have some secret information on earths oil reserves being infinite or the oil companies have a maximum number of barrels they will extract before shutting down operations please share it with the rest us.
Snarky, snarky, snarky. And please show me where I said in my post someway you will screw up my way of life. Nothing could be further from the truth as you have no affect on my way of life whatsoever nor will you ever have.
 

Yarmap

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Jul 11, 2005
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Northeast Alabama
All those that want to do away with this evil crude oil, I ask you to pick any 10 items on this list and stop using them now. I don't think any of these were created from wind or solar.:sarc: This is just a short list from the more than 4,000 that come from crude oil.

There are more than 4,000 petrochemical products that are made from petroleum (crude oil).


Here's a list of the most popular and frequently used products:


?Artificial Limbs
?Bags (garbage bags, shopping bags)
?Balloons
?Bandaids
?Candles
?Clothing (polyester, nylon)
?Combs
?Computers, calculators
?Crayons
?Credit Cards
?Dishwashing Liquids
?Disposable Diapers
?Eye Glasses, Sunglasses
?Fertilizers
?Fishing Rods
?Flooring (linoleum, tiles, carpets)
?Garden Hose
?Hand Lotion, Cream, Petroleum Jelly
?Helmets (bicycle, hockey, etc.)
?Heart Valves
?Helmets (bicycle, hockey, etc.)
?Insect Repellent
?Insecticides
?Life Jackets
?Milk Jugs
?Paint Brushes
?Panty Hose
?Parachutes
?Patio Furniture
?Pens
?Perfume
?Rope (nylon)
?Safety Glass
?Shampoo
?Shower Curtains, Shower Doors
?Soft Contact Lenses
?Soft Drink Bottles, Plastic Bottles
?Tape (clear, masking, etc.)
?Tapes - (cassettes, vcr tapes)
?Telephones
?Tennis rackets
?Tents
?Toys, Dolls, Model Cars
?Tires (synthetic rubber)
?Toothbrushes, Toothpaste Tubes
?Trash Bags
?TV Cabinets
?Umbrellas
?Unbreakable Dishes
?Waterproof Jackets, Boots, Pants
 
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