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sarawind

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Jul 9, 2005
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30A
Every time taxes have been lowered this country thrived. Every time. Check out your history if you have the time when you aren't dredging up Bush because you don't have a better reply. Read this and weep.

BREAKING: Wounded Warriors Face New Tax This Independence Day

In just six months, the largest tax hikes in the history of America will take effect. They will hit families and small businesses in three great waves on January 1, 201
1:

First Wave: Expiration of 2001 and 2003 Tax Relief

In 2001 and 2003, the GOP Congress enacted several tax cuts for investors, small business owners, and families. These will all expire on January 1, 2011:

Personal income tax rates will rise. The top income tax rate will rise from 35 to 39.6 percent (this is also the rate at which two-thirds of small business profits are taxed). The lowest rate will rise from 10 to 15 percent. All the rates in between will also rise. Itemized deductions and personal exemptions will again phase out, which has the same mathematical effect as higher marginal tax rates. The full list of marginal rate hikes is below:

- The 10% bracket rises to an expanded 15%
- The 25% bracket rises to 28%
- The 28% bracket rises to 31%
- The 33% bracket rises to 36%
- The 35% bracket rises to 39.6%

Higher taxes on marriage and family. The ?marriage penalty? (narrower tax brackets for married couples) will return from the first dollar of income. The child tax credit will be cut in half from $1000 to $500 per child. The standard deduction will no longer be doubled for married couples relative to the single level. The dependent care and adoption tax credits will be cut.

The return of the Death Tax. This year, there is no death tax. For those dying on or after January 1 2011, there is a 55 percent top death tax rate on estates over $1 million. A person leaving behind two homes and a retirement account could easily pass along a death tax bill to their loved ones.

Higher tax rates on savers and investors. The capital gains tax will rise from 15 percent this year to 20 percent in 2011. The dividends tax will rise from 15 percent this year to 39.6 percent in 2011. These rates will rise another 3.8 percent in 2013.

Second Wave: Obamacare

There are over twenty new or higher taxes in Obamacare. Several will first go into effect on January 1, 2011. They include:

The ?Medicine Cabinet Tax? Thanks to Obamacare, Americans will no longer be able to use health savings account (HSA), flexible spending account (FSA), or health reimbursement (HRA) pre-tax dollars to purchase non-prescription, over-the-counter medicines (except insulin).

The ?Special Needs Kids Tax? This provision of Obamacare imposes a cap on flexible spending accounts (FSAs) of $2500 (Currently, there is no federal government limit). There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children. There are thousands of families with special needs children in the United States, and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education. Tuition rates at one leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington, D.C. (National Child Research Center) can easily exceed $14,000 per year. Under tax rules, FSA dollars can be used to pay for this type of special needs education.

The HSA Withdrawal Tax Hike. This provision of Obamacare increases the additional tax on non-medical early withdrawals from an HSA from 10 to 20 percent, disadvantaging them relative to IRAs and other tax-advantaged accounts, which remain at 10 percent.

Third Wave: The Alternative Minimum Tax and Employer Tax Hikes

When Americans prepare to file their tax returns in January of 2011, they?ll be in for a nasty surprise?the AMT won?t be held harmless, and many tax relief provisions will have expired. The major items include:

The AMT will ensnare over 28 million families, up from 4 million last year. According to the left-leaning Tax Policy Center, Congress? failure to index the AMT will lead to an explosion of AMT taxpaying families?rising from 4 million last year to 28.5 million. These families will have to calculate their tax burdens twice, and pay taxes at the higher level. The AMT was created in 1969 to ensnare a handful of taxpayers.

Small business expensing will be slashed and 50% expensing will disappear. Small businesses can normally expense (rather than slowly-deduct, or ?depreciate?) equipment purchases up to $250,000. This will be cut all the way down to $25,000. Larger businesses can expense half of their purchases of equipment. In January of 2011, all of it will have to be ?depreciated.?

Taxes will be raised on all types of businesses. There are literally scores of tax hikes on business that will take place. The biggest is the loss of the ?research and experimentation tax credit,? but there are many, many others. Combining high marginal tax rates with the loss of this tax relief will cost jobs.

Tax Benefits for Education and Teaching Reduced. The deduction for tuition and fees will not be available. Tax credits for education will be limited. Teachers will no longer be able to deduct classroom expenses. Coverdell Education Savings Accounts will be cut. Employer-provided educational assistance is curtailed. The student loan interest deduction will be disallowed for hundreds of thousands of families.

Charitable Contributions from IRAs no longer allowed. Under current law, a retired person with an IRA can contribute up to $100,000 per year directly to a charity from their IRA. This contribution also counts toward an annual ?required minimum distribution.? This ability will no longer be there.
 

LuciferSam

Banned
Apr 26, 2008
4,749
1,069
Sowal
Doubling of gas prices probably wouldn't be that big of a deal if price occurred in a vacuum without any other effects. Of course, simple doubling of gasoline price is a conservative estimate of what would occur if all offshore drilling was stopped. And be sure to make room in your budget for just about every good, service and utility you currently consume going up in price. And finally, be sure to save a little scratch for Bob's poor freezing relatives up north because that heating oil will probably be just a little too expensive for them. But I'm sure you guys have it all figured out:lol:

We have better plans than you ill-conceived straw-man proposal. I should know better than to waste my time with you.
 
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30A Skunkape

Skunky
Jan 18, 2006
10,323
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We have better plans than you're ill-conceived straw-man proposal. I should know better than to waste my time with you.
Sorry to make you confront the prospect of going back to the old drawing board. This time I suggest you consider augmenting your gas rationing with solar, wind, hydropower, biofuels and the knowledge that we are not ready to turn off the spigot just yet. Banzai!;-)
 

ugabuga

Beach Fanatic
Jun 4, 2010
369
145
Every time taxes have been lowered this country thrived. Every time. Check out your history if you have the time when you aren't dredging up Bush because you don't have a better reply. Read this and weep.

Well, since taxes are so evil, let's just eliminate them altogether. Somalia seems to be doing alright without them.
 

LuciferSam

Banned
Apr 26, 2008
4,749
1,069
Sowal
Sorry to make you confront the prospect of going back to the old drawing board. This time I suggest you consider augmenting your gas rationing with solar, wind, hydropower, biofuels and the knowledge that we are not ready to turn off the spigot just yet. Banzai!;-)

I agree, that oil spigot may be flooding the gulf for the next 10 years. All it will take is a beach driving permit to get all the free fuel I need. The loop current could drag it up to the northeast, where oil is in great demand. This petro-spew could be the best thing that ever happened. The gulf stream pipeline. Whooda thunk it.
 
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sarawind

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Jul 9, 2005
582
61
30A
An amazingly obtuse reply, Uga. You obviously did not read the tax info or failed to grasp the gravity of these hurtful taxes of Obama's.
 

Beachy Gal

Beach Crab
Jul 8, 2010
2
0
30A
Let's Oust Him

Obama has done a terrible job with the spill. Not to mention his politics as usual tactics after he promised a transparent government. Obama Care will cause our ER's to become a doc in a box and who will pay? :dunno: Any American that still has a job who isn't waiting for their food stamps and govenrnment checks to arrive.
 

futurebeachbum

Beach Fanatic
Jul 11, 2005
1,100
375
70
Snellsburg, GA
www.myfloridacottage.com
Obama has done a terrible job with the spill.

That depends on what his goals are.

If his goal is to minimize the damage done by the spill, secure the leak, clean up the mess ASAP and protect the residents of the Gulf, then yes, it is beyond terrible. It is ineptitude at it worst. (Not to mention the fact that his administration accepted the disaster plans of the well and blessed its operation.)

OTOH, if the goal is to use this crisis to promote a carbon-credit agenda of wealth redistribution (ie: carbon taxes designed to move more wealth into a few already rich hands) and to simultaneously discipline a bunch of mostly red states, then the handling is brilliant.
 
Every time taxes have been lowered this country thrived. Every time. Check out your history if you have the time when you aren't dredging up Bush because you don't have a better reply. Read this and weep.

BREAKING: Wounded Warriors Face New Tax This Independence Day

In just six months, the largest tax hikes in the history of America will take effect. They will hit families and small businesses in three great waves on January 1, 2011:

First Wave: Expiration of 2001 and 2003 Tax Relief

In 2001 and 2003, the GOP Congress enacted several tax cuts for investors, small business owners, and families. These will all expire on January 1, 2011:

Personal income tax rates will rise. The top income tax rate will rise from 35 to 39.6 percent (this is also the rate at which two-thirds of small business profits are taxed). The lowest rate will rise from 10 to 15 percent. All the rates in between will also rise. Itemized deductions and personal exemptions will again phase out, which has the same mathematical effect as higher marginal tax rates. The full list of marginal rate hikes is below:

- The 10% bracket rises to an expanded 15%
- The 25% bracket rises to 28%
- The 28% bracket rises to 31%
- The 33% bracket rises to 36%
- The 35% bracket rises to 39.6%

Higher taxes on marriage and family. The ?marriage penalty? (narrower tax brackets for married couples) will return from the first dollar of income. The child tax credit will be cut in half from $1000 to $500 per child. The standard deduction will no longer be doubled for married couples relative to the single level. The dependent care and adoption tax credits will be cut.

The return of the Death Tax. This year, there is no death tax. For those dying on or after January 1 2011, there is a 55 percent top death tax rate on estates over $1 million. A person leaving behind two homes and a retirement account could easily pass along a death tax bill to their loved ones.

Higher tax rates on savers and investors. The capital gains tax will rise from 15 percent this year to 20 percent in 2011. The dividends tax will rise from 15 percent this year to 39.6 percent in 2011. These rates will rise another 3.8 percent in 2013.

Second Wave: Obamacare

There are over twenty new or higher taxes in Obamacare. Several will first go into effect on January 1, 2011. They include:

The ?Medicine Cabinet Tax? Thanks to Obamacare, Americans will no longer be able to use health savings account (HSA), flexible spending account (FSA), or health reimbursement (HRA) pre-tax dollars to purchase non-prescription, over-the-counter medicines (except insulin).

The ?Special Needs Kids Tax? This provision of Obamacare imposes a cap on flexible spending accounts (FSAs) of $2500 (Currently, there is no federal government limit). There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children. There are thousands of families with special needs children in the United States, and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education. Tuition rates at one leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington, D.C. (National Child Research Center) can easily exceed $14,000 per year. Under tax rules, FSA dollars can be used to pay for this type of special needs education.

The HSA Withdrawal Tax Hike. This provision of Obamacare increases the additional tax on non-medical early withdrawals from an HSA from 10 to 20 percent, disadvantaging them relative to IRAs and other tax-advantaged accounts, which remain at 10 percent.

Third Wave: The Alternative Minimum Tax and Employer Tax Hikes

When Americans prepare to file their tax returns in January of 2011, they?ll be in for a nasty surprise?the AMT won?t be held harmless, and many tax relief provisions will have expired. The major items include:

The AMT will ensnare over 28 million families, up from 4 million last year. According to the left-leaning Tax Policy Center, Congress? failure to index the AMT will lead to an explosion of AMT taxpaying families?rising from 4 million last year to 28.5 million. These families will have to calculate their tax burdens twice, and pay taxes at the higher level. The AMT was created in 1969 to ensnare a handful of taxpayers.

Small business expensing will be slashed and 50% expensing will disappear. Small businesses can normally expense (rather than slowly-deduct, or ?depreciate?) equipment purchases up to $250,000. This will be cut all the way down to $25,000. Larger businesses can expense half of their purchases of equipment. In January of 2011, all of it will have to be ?depreciated.?

Taxes will be raised on all types of businesses. There are literally scores of tax hikes on business that will take place. The biggest is the loss of the ?research and experimentation tax credit,? but there are many, many others. Combining high marginal tax rates with the loss of this tax relief will cost jobs.

Tax Benefits for Education and Teaching Reduced. The deduction for tuition and fees will not be available. Tax credits for education will be limited. Teachers will no longer be able to deduct classroom expenses. Coverdell Education Savings Accounts will be cut. Employer-provided educational assistance is curtailed. The student loan interest deduction will be disallowed for hundreds of thousands of families.

Charitable Contributions from IRAs no longer allowed. Under current law, a retired person with an IRA can contribute up to $100,000 per year directly to a charity from their IRA. This contribution also counts toward an annual ?required minimum distribution.? This ability will no longer be there.


And the end result is that an already depressed economy will spiral downward to a collapse. Combine these taxes with double energy prices like the liberals want and you have an economic ice age. We are going to reap what the nanny state (big government) has sown.
 

poppy

Banned
Sep 10, 2008
2,854
928
Miramar Beach
Every time taxes have been lowered this country thrived. Every time. Check out your history if you have the time when you aren't dredging up Bush because you don't have a better reply. Read this and weep.


Not when the president is going to start a war or two. During wartime history tells us to raise taxes to pay for it. The bill is coming due with interest.
 
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