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ugabuga

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Opposition to the landmark health care overhaul declined over the past month, to 35 percent from 41 percent, according to the latest results of a tracking poll, reported Thursday.

Fifty percent of the public held a favorable view of the law, up slightly from 48 percent a month ago, while 14 percent expressed no opinion about the measure, according to the poll by the Kaiser Family Foundation.

washingtonpost.com
 

Will B

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I can see our future from here!

Axe falls on NHS services - Telegraph

Nothing like patterning our future health care on that of England while it spirals out of control into a financial quagmire...

I sure hope I don't get really sick...
 

ugabuga

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I can see our future from here!

Axe falls on NHS services - Telegraph

Nothing like patterning our future health care on that of England while it spirals out of control into a financial quagmire...

I sure hope I don't get really sick...

While admittedly problems exist w/ European health care systems, only the wealthiest Europeans would trade their socialized health coverage for the private-insurance-or-no-insurance system the US had before the recent law was passed.
 

Lynnie

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A very dear friend here (25+ yrs. living in America - a few years illegally, then an illegal marriage to stay, or be deported) who is British will not give up his mother country citizenship because.....I quote......."I might need the system in the future." Yet, he doesn't want to live in England, doesn't like it there any longer, doesn't contribute to the system, but readily seeks ways to work the system. His older brother who has just been diagnosed with Alzheimer's lives in England with his wife. The wife is furiously busy hiding the assets...about 500K lbs. He speaks of this like it is a right and volunteers this information.

So, this is socialism and free health care? UGH~~~~~~~ See what this can and often does breed? People are conditioned to 'get what is rightfully theirs' even though through certain criterion and parameters would not be a beneficiary of the system.

The same friend brought his aging mother over here and she was living in an assisted living home for about $5K/mo. She came illegally. His argument to her illegal status was that she was contributing to our economy. Again, he volunteered this info.....almost as if seeking validation.

My point in sharing this with you is that people can justify anything when it comes to getting their fair share. Breaking laws......any laws, anywhere. As long as each country allows the laws to be broken, they are enablers and setting the precedence. It's a sad state of affairs.
 

scooterbug44

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Your friend is a butthead and his family is full of leeches.

No matter what system or rules we enact, there are always people who try to game the system.

I am sure there are people making fraudulent claims to BP right now - should we stop paying any claims because of it?

Approximately 1% of all money spent on Medicare is fraud - should we stop that program?

No, what we SHOULD do is stop enabling people like HIM and make it socially unacceptable (as opposed to cocktail party conversation) to "work the system" - be it for mortgages, foreclosures, tax purposes, etc.
 
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Lynnie

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Your friend is a butthead and his family is full of leeches.

No matter what system or rules we enact, there are always people who try to game the system.

I am sure there are people making fraudulent claims to BP right now - should we stop paying any claims because of it?

Approximately 1% of all money spent on Medicare is fraud - should we stop that program?

No, what we SHOULD do is stop enabling people like HIM and make it socially unacceptable (as opposed to cocktail party conversation) to "work the system" - be it for mortgages, foreclosures, tax purposes, etc.

I am not a propoent of ceasing a program. I am a huge adovocate of prosecuting for fraud, however....whether illegal immigrants, medicare, etc........and, in many cases, both or multiple system violators.
 

ugabuga

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A very dear friend

So, this is socialism and free health care? UGH~~~~~~~

"A very dear friend..." : he must have a lot of Very good character traits to counter balance his admitted fraud and deception to remain your "very dear friend."?!?

"So, this is socialism and free health care? UGH..."
The problem you highlighted is not "socialism" per se, rather it's your "friend"'s fraud & deception.
 

sarawind

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Opposition to the landmark health care overhaul declined over the past month, to 35 percent from 41 percent, according to the latest results of a tracking poll, reported Thursday.

Fifty percent of the public held a favorable view of the law, up slightly from 48 percent a month ago, while 14 percent expressed no opinion about the measure, according to the poll by the Kaiser Family Foundation.

washingtonpost.com

Not many intelligent people give credibility to the Washington Post any longer as it's been proven they are an arm of the Obama White House. Read Journolist Scandal.
 
Opposition to the landmark health care overhaul declined over the past month, to 35 percent from 41 percent, according to the latest results of a tracking poll, reported Thursday.

Fifty percent of the public held a favorable view of the law, up slightly from 48 percent a month ago, while 14 percent expressed no opinion about the measure, according to the poll by the Kaiser Family Foundation.

washingtonpost.com

Wait till this plan ripens and blooms and Americans actually see, feel and deal with it, a 35% approval will be an unatainable goal to achive for Mr. Obama, I believe that as facts come out of all those unread health bill pages...we are all gonna be disappointed and will feel duped and had by our elected officials. Just wayt and see!!!
 
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