I'm not trying to parse anything. If were are being honest, and honesty is your goal, there was no quid pro quo in the phone call that the left impeached Trump for. To say you know something implies fact when, in fact, this is your opinion. I'm not defending Trump as much as I'm just being honest. If the FBI did to you what they did to Trump then you would have every right to call them cons to anyone that would listen, that is my opinion.
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I'm defending the truth, in this case its on Trumps side.Letting you know you are once again defending trump.
Before this call trump ordered the money that had already been approved held up. I’m sure you as a trump apologist have a defense for that.
Crowdstrike was a debunked conspiracy theory the POTUS wanted Zelensky to look into.
Again, the money was already approved.
The President: “I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you’re surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it’s very important that you do it if that’s possible.”
The money had already been approved so not sure how this has anything to do with fulfilling that obligation. In fact he withheld it for 55 days and only released it when it became public.
The President: “The other thing, There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.”
Presidents withhold aide all the time for multiple reasons. Did you have the same stance when Obama did it?
Are you talking about Crowdstrike as pertains to the Russian meddling in the 2016 election? You're right there was no meddling on behalf of Trump, see the Mueller report where people that hated Trump had unlimited time and money to prove he did something wrong and came up with goose eggs.
Quick question: did Ukraine know we were withholding funds? Would be tough to leverage the withholding without them knowing. Or maybe just take Zalenskis own words where he clearly stated he felt no pressure of felt any obligation, but don't let the facts get in your way.
Your last point is when Trump talks about an ACTUAL quid pro quo, the one Biden admitted to. All I'm saying is don't be a hypocrite
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What was Trump’s reason for withholding the military aid to Ukraine for 55 days? Simple question.
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Tell us you’re a dumb mofo without telling us you’re a dumb mofo.
Your whataboutism never passes the bullshit test.
Show us where trump was working with congress on this.
Unlike Trump’s Ukraine aid freeze, which was for personal, political purposes and which the Government Accountability Office found was illegal, all of the Obama administration’s pauses of foreign aid cited by Trump were:
- Done consistent with authority provided by Congress, which has the exclusivepower of the purse;
- Made in consultation with Congress and not in secret; and
- To promote important, bipartisan U.S. national interests, notpersonal interests.
Your bullet points are all opinion and all 3 are 100% incorrect, dumb mofoTell us you’re a dumb mofo without telling us you’re a dumb mofo.
Your whataboutism never passes the bullshit test.
Show us where trump was working with congress on this.
Unlike Trump’s Ukraine aid freeze, which was for personal, political purposes and which the Government Accountability Office found was illegal, all of the Obama administration’s pauses of foreign aid cited by Trump were:
- Done consistent with authority provided by Congress, which has the exclusivepower of the purse;
- Made in consultation with Congress and not in secret; and
- To promote important, bipartisan U.S. national interests, notpersonal interests.
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