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PoppaJ

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Assuming you have kids, when did you think their life started?
I don’t have that answer so I’ll go with what medical science believes is the earliest they are able to survive outside the womb.
When do you believe life begins?
Another question when did republicans and Christians become all consumed with abortion?
 

PoppaJ

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For the 2 of you, I know you will not answer because its how you roll but can we concede that whenever you say that babies life begins, killing it anytime after is murder correct? Can you perform post birth abortions? For me its very simple life begins at conception any time after that is murder, plain and simple. Lets here from the 'follow the science' crowd
Funny how conservatives and Christians had a totally different view as late as the 70’s. They were too busy defending their racism to be concerned with abortion because after all Christian women were enjoying their bodily autonomy also. But being the easily duped rubes you conservatives are that begin to change and our old buddy “suppress the vote” Paul Wyrick is right there.

In 1968, Christianity Today, the flagship magazine of evangelicalism, organized a conference with the Christian Medical Society to discuss the morality of abortion. The gathering attracted 26 heavyweight theologians from throughout the evangelical world, who debated the matter over several days and then issued a statement acknowledging the ambiguities surrounding the issue, which, they said, allowed for many different approaches.

“Whether the performance of an induced abortion is sinful we are not agreed,” the statement read, “but about the necessity of it and permissibility for it under certain circumstances we are in accord.”

Two successive editors of Christianity Today took equivocal stands on abortion. Carl F. H. Henry, the magazine’s founder, affirmed that “a woman’s body is not the domain and property of others,” and his successor, Harold Lindsell, allowed that, “if there are compelling psychiatric reasons from a Christian point of view, mercy and prudence may favor a therapeutic abortion.”

Meeting in St. Louis in 1971, the messengers (delegates) to the Southern Baptist Convention, hardly a redoubt of liberalism, passed a resolution calling for the legalization of abortion, a position they reaffirmed in 1974 — a year after Roe — and again in 1976.

When the Roe decision was handed down, W. A. Criswell, pastor of First Baptist Church in Dallas and sometime president of the Southern Baptist Convention, issued a statement praising the ruling. “I have always felt that it was only after a child was born and had a life separate from its mother that it became an individual person,” Criswell declared, “and it has always, therefore, seemed to me that what is best for the mother and for the future should be allowed.”

When Francis Schaeffer, the intellectual godfather of the Religious Right, tried to enlist Billy Graham in his antiabortion crusade in the late 1970s, Graham, the most famous evangelical of the 20th century, turned him down. Even James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family who later became an implacable foe of abortion, acknowledged in 1973 that the Bible was silent on the matter and therefore it was plausible for an evangelical to believe that “a developing embryo or fetus was not regarded as a full human being.”

 

mputnal

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Same question I posted to poppa. You said you have kids, when did their life start?
When their mother said it started. It is her life, her body and her choice to make. There are many miscarriages from nature and abortion is a form of miscarriage. HER RIGHT. Not yours or mine. I don't care a rats ass what you think about conception and the beginning of life. When you King Louy become pregnant then it will be your right :)
 

mputnal

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Seems as though there is a long list of what you do not know
Or you. That is my point. Neither will EVER have enough information to have "principles to die for" unless we are talking family because information that we get has biases. In this forum all we have are words. No actions. So my take on why we are typing words in a forum is because we have an opportunity to listen, learn and debate issues. I care about issues and others do as well. I do not think that is why you are here. My opinion about you is based on your words and since you do not care about any opinion than yours then please explain why you are here trying to make enemies, not listening and definitely not caring.
 

mputnal

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Tucker isn't my cup of tea unless its for entertainment. He will become like Rogan very quickly and then you side is going to wish Fox kept him. Many factors to your president question
I would never wish for Tucker Carlson to have any platform because he abuses power. There was a time when I thought he had something to say that was beneficial but when trump became a politician his bright light turned off and all that was left is darkness. Rush Limbaugh the same way. Tucker lied to his audience and talked himself into one retirement and my opinion he will do it again. DeSantis is on the same path. Covered several threads. Efficiency.
 

PoppaJ

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A Republican accidentally tells the truth.

Tim Burchett R-TN answers question on why other countries don’t have our rates of gun death,

“Well, they don’t have our freedom, either, they don’t have the Second Amendment,”
 

Lou Deman

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I don’t have that answer so I’ll go with what medical science believes is the earliest they are able to survive outside the womb.
When do you believe life begins?
Another question when did republicans and Christians become all consumed with abortion?
You either don't read or comprehend well
I already answered all you questions above
Science knows life begins at conception anything else is a political jargon to push an agenda
Christian have had the same stance since the beginning I have no idea as far as republicans
Personally I don't care if somebody murders their baby, I only have to live with my life choices
Weird that your not really able to give a personal opinion on a moral question but I understand the topic is tough for some
 

Lou Deman

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Funny how conservatives and Christians had a totally different view as late as the 70’s. They were too busy defending their racism to be concerned with abortion because after all Christian women were enjoying their bodily autonomy also. But being the easily duped rubes you conservatives are that begin to change and our old buddy “suppress the vote” Paul Wyrick is right there.

In 1968, Christianity Today, the flagship magazine of evangelicalism, organized a conference with the Christian Medical Society to discuss the morality of abortion. The gathering attracted 26 heavyweight theologians from throughout the evangelical world, who debated the matter over several days and then issued a statement acknowledging the ambiguities surrounding the issue, which, they said, allowed for many different approaches.

“Whether the performance of an induced abortion is sinful we are not agreed,” the statement read, “but about the necessity of it and permissibility for it under certain circumstances we are in accord.”

Two successive editors of Christianity Today took equivocal stands on abortion. Carl F. H. Henry, the magazine’s founder, affirmed that “a woman’s body is not the domain and property of others,” and his successor, Harold Lindsell, allowed that, “if there are compelling psychiatric reasons from a Christian point of view, mercy and prudence may favor a therapeutic abortion.”

Meeting in St. Louis in 1971, the messengers (delegates) to the Southern Baptist Convention, hardly a redoubt of liberalism, passed a resolution calling for the legalization of abortion, a position they reaffirmed in 1974 — a year after Roe — and again in 1976.

When the Roe decision was handed down, W. A. Criswell, pastor of First Baptist Church in Dallas and sometime president of the Southern Baptist Convention, issued a statement praising the ruling. “I have always felt that it was only after a child was born and had a life separate from its mother that it became an individual person,” Criswell declared, “and it has always, therefore, seemed to me that what is best for the mother and for the future should be allowed.”

When Francis Schaeffer, the intellectual godfather of the Religious Right, tried to enlist Billy Graham in his antiabortion crusade in the late 1970s, Graham, the most famous evangelical of the 20th century, turned him down. Even James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family who later became an implacable foe of abortion, acknowledged in 1973 that the Bible was silent on the matter and therefore it was plausible for an evangelical to believe that “a developing embryo or fetus was not regarded as a full human being.”

Thats a lot of words from some people who lack character in an attempt to justify what you know is wrong, you know its bad to murder a child. You can say it
 

Lou Deman

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When their mother said it started. It is her life, her body and her choice to make. There are many miscarriages from nature and abortion is a form of miscarriage. HER RIGHT. Not yours or mine. I don't care a rats ass what you think about conception and the beginning of life. When you King Louy become pregnant then it will be your right :)
How can you even stand upright?
Abortion is a form of miscarriage? So now abortion is a naturally occurring thing? How many times do you have to say that to yourself to start to believe it?
I can see I hit a nerve thats because you know its murder but you cannot bring yourself to say it, let alone admit it to yourself. I would hate you have your character.
 

Lou Deman

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A Republican accidentally tells the truth.

Tim Burchett R-TN answers question on why other countries don’t have our rates of gun death,

“Well, they don’t have our freedom, either, they don’t have the Second Amendment,”
Look at you trying to change the subject, big guy, its OK to think that murdering a child isn't murder.
Maybe gun deaths are a natural form of post birth abortion, that how mput may see it
 
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