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What's Up at Prominence?

Beach Comber
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Prominence

Has anyone heard anything as far as pricing\release info for this neighborhood located next to Watersound?

Thx.

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hnooe avatar
Beach Fanatic
#177
SJ, its my understanding that the developer of Chateau du Paris has a suit against the county and local property owners regarding the construction of the block fence. Neighbors have told me that he tied into the sewer wrong and has the block fence on the neighboring property. It's my understanding that the developer is from Atlanta!!! I have heard he is sueing the county for discrimination! Guess he is not use to dealing with the complex coding system of Walton County.

Sorry, but Walton County should counter sue the owner of Chateau du Paris for total lack of taste, disregard of 30 A aesthetic standards, and no imagination. I mean c'mon.
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#178
The BCC will typically extend any D.O. for a one year period with much thought. Beyond that, and they may ask a question or two before extending it.

I am confused by your statement that the developer of Chat. de Paris is suing the neighbors and the County. It seems like if the developer built the block fence on the neighboring property, the suit would be against the developer.
wrobert avatar
Beach Fanatic
#179
Interesting...I did know the county was able to grant DO extensions? How big of a campaign contribution do you have to give to get one of those? :confused:


Make as large as you can afford then let us know how it works out.
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#180
What' the deal with Magnolia? What type of development was it? Has it really been abandoned?

If this is the one across from Andante then it is 30A's first "fractional ownership" (see timeshare) condo.
tsutcli avatar
Beach Fanatic
#181
The BCC will typically extend any D.O. for a one year period with much thought. Beyond that, and they may ask a question or two before extending it.

I am confused by your statement that the developer of Chat. de Paris is suing the neighbors and the County. It seems like if the developer built the block fence on the neighboring property, the suit would be against the developer.
Friends who live close by Chateau told me that the owner is Jamaican with a French wife, hence the name. Anyway they also told me that what had stalled the project was that the wall was built too close to the street and that the owner has a suit against the county claiming that he got permission. I would guess that he is in no hurry to go forward given the state of the market.
30A Skunkape avatar
Skunky
#182
I wonder why one of our local gangs hasn't tagged that nice inviting castle wall yet? :scratch:
SHELLY avatar
SoWal Insider
#183
Friends who live close by Chateau told me that the owner is Jamaican with a French wife, hence the name.

He would have had more success with a "Jamaican-themed" subdivision, mon.

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30A Skunkape avatar
Skunky
#184
He would have had more success with a "Jamaican-themed" subdivision, mon.

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There is a bunch of weed growing around the property...weeds I mean😀
elgordoboy avatar
Beach Fanatic
#185
There is a bunch of weed growing around the property...weeds I mean😀
Cheech
He would have had more success with a "Jamaican-themed" subdivision, mon.

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Chong
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#186
He would have had more success with a "Jamaican-themed" subdivision, mon.

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There is a bunch of weed growing around the property...weeds I mean😀

Do we have some proponents of medical marijuana?
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#187
Why does everyone keep calling it "medical?" Okay, I know quite a few people with chronic (pun intended) pain, who smoke it for medicinal reasons -- a few who wouldn't dream of breaking the law, or even drinking, much less doing illegal drugs. Their doctors told them that the best thing they could do to ease the pain, and gain an appetite, was to get some weed and smoke it. However, the rest of the people whom I know that smoke, do so for pure pleasure. I guess you could say that relaxing relieves stress, therefore anyone who smokes is reducing their stress levels. Hops, a key ingredient in beer, is the closest plant to the marijuana plant. Hops is an herb which gives you that relaxing sensation when drinking beer. Drinking alcohol can also help you relieve some stress.
TooFarTampa avatar
SoWal Insider
#188
I find it interesting that Hotel Viridian peeps are talking about changing their entire concept since the condo-tel didn't go over at all. The property just received a one year extension on the Development Order, yet no work has been done, and the property is actively listed for sale.

An interesting story down here made me think of the Hotel Viridian. The owner of Bern's Steak House, which is world renowned for its steak and especially its wine list, announced last year it planned a condo-hotel with 75 units for the lot across the street from its restaurant. Well, they built the parking garage but the rest of the project is on hold indefinitely. The reason? Only a few people signed on to buy units. The entire purpose behind the condo-tel concept, apparently, is to make it easy for the developer to secure financing.

The logical thing would be for the Bern's people to convert the project into merely a hotel, but apparently it is impossible right now to get financing for this kind of project unless you are an experienced hotel developer. So the project is dead, for now.

I'm assuming this is why the Viridian property is now on the market -- the units didn't sell, and even as a hotel it's just not a viable project right now or in the near future. I imagine that D.O. will expire and that will be that. If the Bern's people can't get financing done for a hotel, then the owners of the Seagrove Market certainly will not be able to. I am guessing. :idontno:
Kurt avatar
Admin
#189
Condotels in Hogtown are $117k in the same building the team stays in. A lot less than some RVs I see.
beachmouse avatar
Beach Fanatic
#190
The Ramada across from Silver Sands is/was a condotel, oddly enough. When they were selling units a couple years back, I seem to remember prices were in the $80-$110K range.
TooFarTampa avatar
SoWal Insider
#191
Condotels in Hogtown are $117k in the same building the team stays in. A lot less than some RVs I see.

If you bought one you probably wouldn't even be able to stay there during game weekends. :angry:
Beach Lover
#192
TooFarTampa:

I'm a little confused... are you saying the owners of Berns Steakhouse also own the Seagrove Market and were planning to build a condo-tel? I understand the owners of the Seagrove Market are opening a new restaurant in Alys Beach. I never heard about plans for a condo-tel.

Little Fish
TooFarTampa avatar
SoWal Insider
#193
TooFarTampa:

I'm a little confused... are you saying the owners of Berns Steakhouse also own the Seagrove Market and were planning to build a condo-tel? I understand the owners of the Seagrove Market are opening a new restaurant in Alys Beach. I never heard about plans for a condo-tel.

Little Fish

Sorry ... the Bern's project is not related in any way to the Hotel Viridian. But it is the owner of Seagrove Market who was the one spearheading Hotel Viridian (someone please correct me if I am wrong). I was trying to say that if the Bern's people couldn't get financing for a hotel project, the Seagrove Market people probably won't be able to either.

I was just trying to shed some light as to why the Viridian property might be for sale, even though the development order for the project is still active. Maybe it is obvious to some people but I found it interesting.
tsutcli avatar
Beach Fanatic
#194
TooFarTampa:

I'm a little confused... are you saying the owners of Berns Steakhouse also own the Seagrove Market and were planning to build a condo-tel? I understand the owners of the Seagrove Market are opening a new restaurant in Alys Beach. I never heard about plans for a condo-tel.

Little Fish
The owners of Seagrove Market are involved with other investors to open a condotel on that corner. I think market forces have delayed this. George, owner of Seagrove Market, is opening a similar place in Alyce Beach called Georges and is in the process of moving the old Sandors Rest. building to that location.

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Camp Creek Kid avatar
Christini Zambini
#195
The owners of Seagrove Market are involved with other investors to open a condotel on that corner. I think market forces have delayed this. George, owner of Seagrove Market, is opening a similar place in Alyce Beach called Georges and is in the process of moving the old Sandors Rest. building to that location.

Interesting. How is that building going to fit in at Alys?

I believe that the Hotel Viridian project has become a full-fledged hotel and they are moving forward. I wouldn't be surprised to the the Village Market close for good after Georges is up and running.
tsutcli avatar
Beach Fanatic
#196
Interesting. How is that building going to fit in at Alys?

I believe that the Hotel Viridian project has become a full-fledged hotel and they are moving forward. I wouldn't be surprised to the the Village Market close for good after Georges is up and running.
My thought exactly! Maybe they will paint it white and put one of those artsy chimneys on it. Building would fit in better at Prominence. Understand they are waiting for a period of 5 days projected for no rain to move building because they have to remove the roof to get under power lines on 30a. Can you imagine the traffic back-up as they move the 7 miles to Alyce Beach!!!!
John R avatar
needs to get out more
#197
pretty sure this move will be made at night.
Beach Lover
#198
Prominence

How horrific!! Clear cutting everything in sight. Sad, really sad....
Beach Comber
#199
So what's happening at Prominence? Moving forward? Any retail space opening soon?

Thanks
Beach Lover
#200
I just looked at the website. Why would they want to make it "Reminiscent of a bustling New England town harbor"???

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