What's Up at Prominence?

I just looked at the website. Why would they want to make it "Reminiscent of a bustling New England town harbor"???

Because the sophists from Atlanta didn't nibble on the walled feudal manor concept.:idontno:

Because the sophists from Atlanta didn't nibble on the walled feudal manor concept.:idontno:

:cool: funny!

And thanks for the thread, JohnR. Seems my first impression of Prominence is similar to what has already been shared on the board.

:cool: funny!

And thanks for the thread, JohnR. Seems my first impression of Prominence is similar to what has already been shared on the board.

I was just thinking the same thing.

How can they promote "Green Sensitive Community" & clear cut the whole thing? The future owners of homes can say, "Yes, we live in eco-friendly homes, but the natural environment around here no longer exists in any shape or form.":floor:

I have always thought that the whole development was just ugly. I was hoping the project would go down the drain before they did any more damage. Now, I am just amused by the fact that marketers & developers can talk out of both sides of their mouth.

How can they promote "Green Sensitive Community" & clear cut the whole thing? The future owners of homes can say, "Yes, we live in eco-friendly homes, but the natural environment around here no longer exists in any shape or form.":floor:

I have always thought that the whole development was just ugly. I was hoping the project would go down the drain before they did any more damage. Now, I am just amused by the fact that marketers & developers can talk out of both sides of their mouth.

This describes MANY developments in Sowal. Overdone and cartoonish architectural themes, "green" mega homes occupied only part of the year, and far too liberal application of the chainsaw! :bang:

I just looked at the website. Why would they want to make it "Reminiscent of a bustling New England town harbor"???

To blend in with the New England themed development around it called Water Sound. ;-)

How horrific!! Clear cutting everything in sight. Sad, really sad....

I hate clear cutting:cry:

Clear cutting is unconscionable. William Bartram is rolling over in his grave. I guess they get the "New England" theme from our heritage of being part of the 14th British Colony of West Florida.

For a developer that was so concerned with "GREEN" he sure cut down a lot of trees, huh! This was only one of several things you will find on the web site.

"Geothermal heating and air conditioning is required in all homes and commercial businesses within Prominence. Hydro-Temp Earth Coupled Heat Pumps pull heat from the earth to warm the home during the winter. During the summer months, the same system pulls heat from your home and transfers it to the earth. Additionally, waste heat from the system can be used to heat water. This system redirects energy to the earth saving you on monthly expenses, eliminates the need for outside condenser units and is better for the environment."

Money is still what it was all about.:blush:

Prominence

I am curious. Does anyone out there know the situation with Prominence. It seems in the last few years I come down spring and fall and nothing ever seems to be any different. Thanks in advance for any info.

Read through previous posts in this merged thread for info.

There has been very slow work going on the last few years. I don't know the status but I assume they are a victim of the slow market. Another case of bad timing. Maybe someone with the development or a realtor can update us?

Read through previous posts in this merged thread for info.

There has been very slow work going on the last few years. I don't know the status but I assume they are a victim of the slow market. Another case of bad timing. Maybe someone with the development or a realtor can update us?

I think it is going back to the bank.

Overpriced beach community with no beach access - unless you think going through the public access at Deer Lake Park is adequate. This was the worst thought out development on 30a IMO. Nantucket style homes on an ersatz harbor??????????? JOE will eventually pick this property up for a song and absorb into Watersound. On second thought this might be a good buy and hope things happen that way.

Overpriced beach community with no beach access - unless you think going through the public access at Deer Lake Park is adequate. This was the worst thought out development on 30a IMO. Nantucket style homes on an ersatz harbor??????????? JOE will eventually pick this property up for a song and absorb into Watersound. On second thought this might be a good buy and hope things happen that way.

Joe can't get rid of its own current inventory. Also, they would get slaughtered in the market if they purchased more raw land. It may happen, but it will be a long time coming.

Prominence under new management?

Drove by today and noticed some news signs at Prominence for The New Orchard Group (not sure 100% on the name).

Just wondering if it went back to the bank or what? Not much activity in months over there.

Okay, here's a who's who of large foreclosures.

http://neworchard.com/#page=home

Okay, here's a who's who of large foreclosures.

http://neworchard.com/#page=home

It's the Redfish Village People.

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So Orchard doesn't own these properties, they're acting as consultants to help dig the the properties out of the grave? Or is Orchard the original developer?

If the former, probably a smart business to be in - they'll make a killing over the next few years. (Unless of course the people running it are failed developers themselves, in which case you have to wonder.)

I looked through the site and found the names of the founders - Mr. Brad Zeitlin and Mr. Steve R. Bradley. I really haven't found much on either through the web, anybody know anything about these two gentlemen?

I just notced they a fluffing the entire front of the place with pinetstraw and cleaning up the duck pond at the front a bit, and there are now actually cars parked at the construction trailer--it looks like something is happening, and sometimes that is all it takes!

Sowallers, Greetings from Prominence!

Prominence is a planned 80 acre town, with approximately 40 acres on the south side of 30A and 40 acres on the north side of 30A. It is an extraordinary site, with approved entitlements for 650 residential units, 200,000 sq ft of commercial, 120 room hotel, 5,000 sq ft spa and 13,000 sq ft of civic/public space. We all know that a lot has changed since the project was approved, contining market challenges exist; however, the owners believe the time is right to take steps to move forward. Please keep in mind that Prominence is the size of Seaside or Rosemary Beach - so the development of this town will be a long and exciting process.

Thank you for noticing the first step - this is a near term objective to quickly clean-up the existing site. To date, the bike path has been cleaned, the right-of-way (from the street to south of the bike path) has been mowed, pinestraw has been refreshed in certain areas, heavy equipment has been moved away from the front of the project, roads/hard surfaces have been cleared of debris and weed removal has started. Of course, these steps won't dramatically transform the project; however, they are important. Our neighbors, those who use the bike path and those who drive by frequently are certainly pleased to see this work!

Future plans are exciting and do include further site enhancement. We believe this will be great for the 30A corridor.

Brad and Steve welcome your phone calls at 850-231-0850 and would be pleased to meet in person at Prominence for those who have further interest.

Thank you! :wave:

It's the Redfish Village People.

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The four properties I saw on the site are all local. Two in RMB, Redfish Village and Prominence.

Welcome Prominence! We're all wishing you much success! Please keep us updated on the plans/progress!

New Orchard address

Not that it means anything, but there are 27 companies registered at the same address as New Orchard in RMB.

Thanks Prominence...good to hear as this plan had particular appeal when choosing a home in Watersound Beach. Look forward to some momentum.

Not that it means anything, but there are 27 companies registered at the same address as New Orchard in RMB.

Isn't that because it's an office building in Rosemary? The company (according to the site) has been in business since 2000.

According to county records, the original developer doesn't appear to have had any issues with repayment, so it looks like they are in for the long haul. They do have quite a bit of debt, but everything appears to be up and current.

I have to say I wish them luck.

We are starting to come out of this whole crazy thing, so assuming they hold on and keep the bills paid for another three to five years or so and can afford to adjust property prices to reasonable levels, they can make it. Bringing Orchard in to get the ball rolling again looks to be a good sign.

Can't see anyone building much for the next 1-4 years as the inventory levels are still incredible with prices continuing to fall plus which bank would dare finance any large project in these times?