land purchase

Treefrog, the link to the County GIS is here:
http://maps.geocortex.net/imf-5.1.002/sites/walton/jsp/launch.jsp?popup_blocked=true

However, the link is to the entire map, with all of the overlays. You can save any particular map with overlays and create labels, but you cannot directly link to that frame in particular, as far as I know. It isn't too user-friendly, but with with a bit of tinkering, you should be able to navigate it fairly well, and you will see the overlays in folders to the right of the page. It is a great resource, available to all via the Walton County website (taxpayers).

Looks like Watercolor is more at risk than Treetops or any other big development along 30A. A CAT 3 would swamp all of Phase I and a larger hurricane would effect Phase III according to the map. Looks like folks in Phase I of Watercolor better buy flood insurance if they haven't already.

Watersound West Beach is also at high risk and parts of Watersound Beach are too.

I believe I know who you are and wondered if you checked out the distant past of the builder you chose to build your most recent place. Didn't I hear about a pretty major financial issue with a builder you've recommended to readers on this message board? You can private message me anytime or ask me about it in person if you want.

If my contractor had past or present financial issues during the construction of my home, I never knew it. He completed my Watersound home on budget, on time and made me happy the entire time. I was provided with pages of receipts that reflected the work done with every draw and he kept me informed through the entire process. He did everything first class. I wouldn't want to build a bird house in sowal without his involvement. I would recommend Peter Horn of Artisian to anyone who wants to work with a professional. After over 20 years of construction in sowal, you don't have to look to far to find a quality built Artisian home regardless if its inside or outside a high end development.

A correction about Artisan

I'm flattered that someone would post my company name (Artisan) as someone he's done business with, in an effort to legitimize his own name, but to the best of my knowledge, neither I personally nor anyone representing my company has ever done business with John Carol or Chamber Street Builders. I do recall hiring Ronnie Thomas to do some framing work for us a number of years ago, and I later learned that perhaps there might have been some connection with Ronnie to John Carol, but it was never direct and never known to me for a fact.

I've been building here since the late 1970s, starting as an employee of other firms and eventually establishing my own companies. Our work and our record speak for themselves, as do our many satisfied customers over these many years. None of us can make all our clients happy all of the time, but I feel safe in saying that we have a very high percentage of repeat customers, and most of our work over the years has come to us through enthusiastic recommendations from our happy customers. We're very grateful for the success we've had, and attribute much of it to the good long-term relationships we build with clients, vendors, employees, realtors, design professionals and bankers.

Please visit our website -- www.artisan-builds.com for more information about our work.

I wouldn't want to build a bird house in sowal without his involvement. .

and then there are some builders whom I would not want them building my bird house...

Thank you flyforfun for the encourgagement. That is what I am doing, researching developements. I am not in a hurry to buy, but I do not want to miss a good investment. Currently I live in a Condo on the beach and I want to purchase land with a "No Build out Time" so I can build when I'm good and ready. I thought Treetop would be a good investment because the lot prices are fairly low and I like its close proximity to the beach, Seacrest, Rosemary, Aly's.

Everyone has been very helpful, thank you for your posts.

Dunebug - If you want any information about Treetop please pm me. I have copies of the plat for the entire subdivision and also lots of other information that may help you.

I'm flattered that someone would post my company name (Artisan) as someone he's done business with, in an effort to legitimize his own name, but to the best of my knowledge, neither I personally nor anyone representing my company has ever done business with John Carol or Chamber Street Builders. I do recall hiring Ronnie Thomas to do some framing work for us a number of years ago, and I later learned that perhaps there might have been some connection with Ronnie to John Carol, but it was never direct and never known to me for a fact.

I've been building here since the late 1970s, starting as an employee of other firms and eventually establishing my own companies. Our work and our record speak for themselves, as do our many satisfied customers over these many years. None of us can make all our clients happy all of the time, but I feel safe in saying that we have a very high percentage of repeat customers, and most of our work over the years has come to us through enthusiastic recommendations from our happy customers. We're very grateful for the success we've had, and attribute much of it to the good long-term relationships we build with clients, vendors, employees, realtors, design professionals and bankers.

Please visit our website -- www.artisan-builds.com for more information about our work.

Anyone hiring a builder should thoroughly check their references, reputation, and if they have any complaints filed or pending lawsuits. Caveat Emptor x100!

Luckily 30-A and Sowal are small enough that a diligent researcher can separate the wheat from the chaff rather quickly. ;-)

Another way is to talk to sub-contractors/suppliers.

Many subs work for different builders up and down 30-A. When a contractor does not pay his subs but continues to get draws that should tell you something as well. ;-)

Hey Pete

I'm flattered that someone would post my company name (Artisan) as someone he's done business with, in an effort to legitimize his own name, but to the best of my knowledge, neither I personally nor anyone representing my company has ever done business with John Carol or Chamber Street Builders. I do recall hiring Ronnie Thomas to do some framing work for us a number of years ago, and I later learned that perhaps there might have been some connection with Ronnie to John Carol, but it was never direct and never known to me for a fact.

I've been building here since the late 1970s, starting as an employee of other firms and eventually establishing my own companies. Our work and our record speak for themselves, as do our many satisfied customers over these many years. None of us can make all our clients happy all of the time, but I feel safe in saying that we have a very high percentage of repeat customers, and most of our work over the years has come to us through enthusiastic recommendations from our happy customers. We're very grateful for the success we've had, and attribute much of it to the good long-term relationships we build with clients, vendors, employees, realtors, design professionals and bankers.

Please visit our website -- www.artisan-builds.com for more information about our work.

The only jobs my company worked for of yours were Johnson, Sporl, Flippo and I don't remember the 2 on the South side. It was a pleasure. I liked Trampus and Anne. I didn't see you much, but I was only there two or three times a day. We did framing, trim, windows and doors, stairs, formwork, decks, handrails and siding.

Some friends of mine passed me an e-mail that seems to be coming through you and by all means every time you see me you are cordial. Don't be afraid to talk to me about your issues with me. JC www.chambers-street-builders.com

All of this dirty laundry airing from everyone is uncomfortable reading. Maybe these issues would be better discussed out of total public view? As in PMs, emails, or letters.

I would like to thank everyone for their comments. I am not a land surveyor but I can see by the terrain that there are issues at Treetop. In addition, for a seller to take a big lost one would wonder. I did not see any comments on Lakeside at Inlet Beach, does anyone have any information on this new development or some advice on where to buy in or around 30A for good price. 200k is the highest i will go.

Thank you

Somehow I missed this in the fray - there are some lots over there available but I'm not seeing anything at that price.

http://hotlist.sellingdestinfl.com/Lots&LandHotlist.htm

I'd check the elevation as I believe it's on the same waterway as Treetop before getting serious. Also, prices are dropping in there so given time you might find the lot you want at the price your asking. (Although it might be a year or two until you do.)

dunebug, you might keep an eye on Seacrest Beach. The shake out is just getting started in there but I'd be willing to bet 200K for a lot on the outer areas is a possibility over the next few years. Check foreclosures as well, there are a number of lots in there headed back to the bank over the next year.

dunebug, you might keep an eye on Seacrest Beach. The shake out is just getting started in there but I'd be willing to bet 200K for a lot on the outer areas is a possibility over the next few years. Check foreclosures as well, there are a number of lots in there headed back to the bank over the next year.

there are lots in seacrest selling NOW for under $200,000. :shock:

My 2 cents on Treetop:I have driven through there (literally)hundreds of times and have yet to see standing water after our heaviest rains. I didn't go looking, nor have I felt compelled to dig a hole three feet deep, but it isn't the swamp that some places around here are. In fact, I don't think I have seen any stands of cypress trees, just pines.

there are lots in seacrest selling NOW for under $200,000. :shock:

Inlet, you wouldn't happen to know any realtor listings on lots around there would you? I've been looking for a good realtor site that lists current lots by community but haven't found much.

dunebug, you might keep an eye on Seacrest Beach. The shake out is just getting started in there but I'd be willing to bet 200K for a lot on the outer areas is a possibility over the next few years. Check foreclosures as well, there are a number of lots in there headed back to the bank over the next year.

Lots in Seacrest AND Watercolor (not just in Phase IV) are selling for under $200k right now with more decreases likely to come.

I would like to thank everyone for their comments. I am not a land surveyor but I can see by the terrain that there are issues at Treetop. In addition, for a seller to take a big lost one would wonder. I did not see any comments on Lakeside at Inlet Beach, does anyone have any information on this new development or some advice on where to buy in or around 30A for good price. 200k is the highest i will go.

Thank you

There is one lot in Watercolor Cypress Cove listed at $179k, but many others listed between $200k and $300k that might be had for $200k if you made an offer. Could also get one in Watersound West and maybe Watersound for under $200k (never hurts to make an offer).

But, prices for raw land are likely to continue to fall so waiting a bit might not be a bad idea.

CONFUCIOUS ALSO SAY: "Man who forsakes fortune cookie for blogs will go hungry "

I am a regular and repeat customer of AABSOLUTE ( Beach Comber) in this post

Lovely wife and daughter...a real charming man, if you have the good fortune to meet him

In fact, his website design and layout www.ChambersStreetBuilders.com says it all, right? Ah, the age-of-the-Internet...

Alas, "Whatever-doesn't-kill-you-makes-you-stronger" ( who said that?)

May God Bless whosoever contemplates a building relationship with this man, John Carroll or his company Chambers Street Builders.

Yes, he has built in Rosemary Beach.

Yes, he has built in TreeTops.

Yes, he has built in WaterColor and WaterSound.

And Inlet Beach.

And Grande Pointe.

And Cypress Breeze.

A simple phone call to any of their Community Managers will confirm this. I am sure they will welcome your phone call.

Just ask any reference he will give you, and they will sing his praises.

And there my friends, "the plot thickens". Or perhaps, as the wise sage Confucious once said " I am at a loss for words"

I would certainly hope that any references he gives would be nothing but shiny happy people. One would truly have to be crazy to give out references who fired a builder.

I am a regular and repeat customer of AABSOLUTE ( Beach Comber) in this post

Lovely wife and daughter...a real charming man, if you have the good fortune to meet him

In fact, his website design and layout www.ChambersStreetBuilders.com says it all, right? Ah, the age-of-the-Internet...

Alas, "Whatever-doesn't-kill-you-makes-you-stronger" ( who said that?)

May God Bless whosoever contemplates a building relationship with this man, John Carroll or his company Chambers Street Builders.

Yes, he has built in Rosemary Beach.

Yes, he has built in TreeTops.

Yes, he has built in WaterColor and WaterSound.

And Inlet Beach.

And Grande Pointe.

And Cypress Breeze.

A simple phone call to any of their Community Managers will confirm this. I am sure they will welcome your phone call.

Just ask any reference he will give you, and they will sing his praises.

And there my friends, "the plot thickens". Or perhaps, as the wise sage Confucious once said " I am at a loss for words"

Kanye West

Inlet, you wouldn't happen to know any realtor listings on lots around there would you? I've been looking for a good realtor site that lists current lots by community but haven't found much.

30A Shopper, We got a real time feed for lots in Seacrest Beach as well as homes and condos. The link for the lots is:

http://www.seacrest-beach.com/seacrest_beach_north.htm

As you can see, there are quite a few lots under $200K and as someone said, you can certainly offer less. Have quite a few feeds on other communities as well so just let me know if you them. Here's some of them:

Dune Allen Beach
Seaside
Blue Mountain Beach
Grayton Beach
WaterColor
Seagrove Beach
Santa Rosa Beach
WaterSound Beach
Seacrest Beach
Rosemary Beach
Carillon Beach