Smiling JOe
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:idontno: Why so quite? Too much information? Did anyone notice that inventory in a few categories actually decreased for the first time in a long time?
MermaidMermaidpicky7,871 postsJoined View profileMessagepicky
:idontno: Why so quite? Too much information? Did anyone notice that inventory in a few categories actually decreased for the first time in a long time?
I can speak only for myself, but I'm still trying to digest the June 2006 figures for SoWal condo sales:
Avg List Price $644,094
Avg Sale Price $580,625
% Diff Sell/List 90.15%
Any hopes we might have had of selling our condo at a decent price and upgrading to a larger one are now indefinitely delayed thanks to those figures. :( That's why I'm quiet!
Beachbummette
BeachbummetteSoWal InsiderBirmingham and Watersound5,742 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
Smiling JOe,
Looking at single family dwelling over the last few years the inventory has more than doubled. How many NEW homes have been constructed over the last few years that would not have been on the market in 2003 :idontno: or even 2004?
Looking at single family dwelling over the last few years the inventory has more than doubled. How many NEW homes have been constructed over the last few years that would not have been on the market in 2003 :idontno: or even 2004?
Smiling JOe,In all categories, inventory has more than doubled over the last few years. I, for one, am at least glad to see the tapering off of the net number of listings. I think this is a result of what I mentioned last month -- Realtors not taking just any listing at any price and sellers pulling some of the over-priced listings off the market, or allowing them to expire.
Looking at single family dwelling over the last few years the inventory has more than doubled. How many NEW homes have been constructed over the last few years that would not have been on the market in 2003 :idontno: or even 2004?
I see great prices on many properties in many different areas right now. If you are going to get in the market, you better not wait too long.
Beachlover2
Beachlover2Beach FanaticSoWal819 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
I am just glad I am not having to sell right now - but do see some positive signs in the numbers - turning the corner maybe????
Beachbummette
BeachbummetteSoWal InsiderBirmingham and Watersound5,742 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
We have been in the market for a long time. Luckily have not bought anything in almost three years.
Do you have any idea how many new homes have been constructed in South Walton in the last three years?
Do you have any idea how many new homes have been constructed in South Walton in the last three years?
RlumpyRlumpyBeach Comber7 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Comber
I think you should see better results for July. Lets just hope the momentum continues. Those invested for the long term, keep reminding yourself that this is just a temporary blip that "this too shall pass".
Compared to Cal and South Florida, SoWal is still a great deal.
Compared to Cal and South Florida, SoWal is still a great deal.
DbabyDbabyBeach Comber10 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Comber
soo sorry you sery amricons buy beechfron ree estate. U watch yor money froat away wist tide. shelly-moto wait for rand to git reel cheep. buy from
por amrecons.
rik takin candy frum rittle amrecon.
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spinDrAtlspinDrAtlBeach Fanatic367 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
I can speak only for myself, but I'm still trying to digest the June 2006 figures for SoWal condo sales:
Avg List Price $644,094
Avg Sale Price $580,625
% Diff Sell/List 90.15%
Any hopes we might have had of selling our condo at a decent price and upgrading to a larger one are now indefinitely delayed thanks to those figures. :( That's why I'm quiet!
Buy your new place now during the low and then sell your current place later when prices rebound. 😀 :shock: :blink:
goofer
gooferBeach Fanatic1,165 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Shelly- Moto
Just like you took candy from us in the early 80's with your astute purchases in NYC and Hawaii, not to mention Pebble Beach !! :funn:
Just like you took candy from us in the early 80's with your astute purchases in NYC and Hawaii, not to mention Pebble Beach !! :funn:
SHELLY
SHELLYSoWal Insider5,763 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
:idontno: Why so quite? Too much information? Did anyone notice that inventory in a few categories actually decreased for the first time in a long time?
SJ,
I didn't comment since the numbers pretty much speak for themselves.....but since you asked..........
I don't see the inventory decreases in the stats given for June (neither Y-O-Y(!) nor M-O-M).
Discusing the Y-O-Y would be frivolous, but month-over-month:
I see a decrease of "1" for Det SF Sandestin-Ok, but they sold 19, which means the inventory was increased by 18 before the sales were booked.
In Attached SF Sandestin-Ok, they sold 11 but there was no change in inventory, which means the inventory was increased by 11 before the sales were booked.
The only "real" decrease I see is in Residential Land SoWal where they sold 21 and the inventory dropped by "34", which means 13 must have been taken off the market? Still that leaves 114 months (9.5 yrs) of supply up for sale.
All this inventory and JOE and others are still carving out more subdivisions and throwing up more houses and condos as we speak.
People!!....the Emperor is walking around bare-arsed naked!
I'd really like to know what folks think is going to turn this situation around in the next year or so? That "1,000" baby boomers per day/week/month flooding into Florida isn't it.
<I've declined the blindfold...fire when ready!>
SJ,Man you are brutal. When I noted that a few categories saw decreases in inventory, I am referring to the net. Three out of ten categories DID see net decreases in inventory and one category saw no change in the net number of inventory. Sure, inventory is still very heavy. I totally agree with that, but to say that the slight decreasing shift in inventory isn't noteworthy is just wrong. This is the first time we have seen a decrease, as slight as it may be, in the past 2.5 years.
I didn't comment since the numbers pretty much speak for themselves.....but since you asked..........
I don't see the inventory decreases in the stats given for June (neither Y-O-Y(!) nor M-O-M).
Discusing the Y-O-Y would be frivolous, but month-over-month:
I see a decrease of "1" for Det SF Sandestin-Ok, but they sold 19, which means the inventory was increased by 18 before the sales were booked.
In Attached SF Sandestin-Ok, they sold 11 but there was no change in inventory, which means the inventory was increased by 11 before the sales were booked.
The only "real" decrease I see is in Residential Land SoWal where they sold 21 and the inventory dropped by "34", which means 13 must have been taken off the market? Still that leaves 114 months (9.5 yrs) of supply up for sale.
All this inventory and JOE and others are still carving out more subdivisions and throwing up more houses and condos as we speak.
People!!....the Emperor is walking around bare-arsed naked!
I'd really like to know what folks think is going to turn this situation around in the next year or so? That "1,000" baby boomers per day/week/month flooding into Florida isn't it.
<I've declined the blindfold...fire when ready!>
SHELLY
SHELLYSoWal Insider5,763 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
Man you are brutal. [/b]
I like ya Joe....consider it "tough love."
(Surely when you solicited comments, you weren't expecting a rah-rah-real estate post from me? :confused: )
DbabyDbabyBeach Comber10 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Comber
Sherrey is right. U serry um uricans don't know how buy low , serul high. u pray
fur ree state market turn round. you bank count go berry up while u pray.
u buy big um urican car, when u courd own great japan car like toyota or honda.
Instead u buy gas drinking hummer. you need think like sherrey. she murst be japan worman.
fur ree state market turn round. you bank count go berry up while u pray.
u buy big um urican car, when u courd own great japan car like toyota or honda.
Instead u buy gas drinking hummer. you need think like sherrey. she murst be japan worman.
I like ya Joe....consider it "tough love."I always enjoy reading your slant on things. The greater the number of accurate perspectives, the better information we can milk from the data. We have to stay in check. ;-)
(Surely when you solicited comments, you weren't expecting a rah-rah-real estate post from me? :confused: )
PTWizardPTWizardBeach LoverColumbus, OH80 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Lover
People!!....the Emperor is walking around bare-arsed naked!
I'd really like to know what folks think is going to turn this situation around in the next year or so? That "1,000" baby boomers per day/week/month flooding into Florida isn't it.
Much as I hate to admit it Shelly has been right for a long time. It amazes me that developers still insist on creating new projects in this market! For me, it's reached the point of absurdity, although I am accumulating cash for buying opportunities down the road, maybe next year. I believe the worst is yet to come and we'll probably see a lot of bankrupt projects if not companies before this is over.
montymontyBeach Comber48 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Comber
:idontno: Why so quite? Too much information? Did anyone notice that inventory in a few categories actually decreased for the first time in a long time?
The numbers speak for themselves 😱 . In South Walton, inventories continue to be sky high (I guess St Joe easing build out deadlines didn't have the desired impact of reducing inventory :blink: ) . They can't go much higher--it seems 1 out of every 3 or 4 properties are already on the market. This is especially true in the newer planned communities. And, sales are absolutely in the toilet. In many categories, sales in May and June, the busiest time of year, aren't any higher than November-February, the slowest time of the year. The only stuff selling is priced way below market highs. In some cases, lots are selling for 50% below prices of 18 months ago.
Why not simply admit that the market is tanking like other resort markets around the country? And contrary to some opinions on this board, this market is not priced way below California, Naples, and other high priced areas of the country. The market high prices were approaching $800 to $1000 per square foot or more for nice homes in this market and these homes are on postage stamp sized lots. Naples, Palm Beach, Hilton Head, Kiawah homes actually are built on lots that can accomodate more than the house and a pool the size of a jacuzzi. This market is ultra expensive by anyone's standards.
SHELLY
SHELLYSoWal Insider5,763 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
Much as I hate to admit it Shelly has been right for a long time.
Like they say, even a broken clock is right twice a day.. :lol:
I've been watching this Real Estate run-up and the economics behind it for the last couple of years--there was no way the fundamentals could justify continuous, double-digit y-o-y appreication in SoWal real estate or real estate in any other part of the country for that matter. I observed the same thing happen with tech stocks and buyers of stock in bankrupt companies (even Beanie Babies)--the speculative frenzy fueled by the desire for a quick and substantial return on one's money was IDENTICAL in all cases.
It amazes me that developers still insist on creating new projects in this market! For me, it's reached the point of absurdity, although I am accumulating cash for buying opportunities down the road, maybe next year. I believe the worst is yet to come and we'll probably see a lot of bankrupt projects if not companies before this is over.
For homebuilders and developers it's a matter of "Build...or Die." That's why they keep doing what they're doing.
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