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Anyone else see it? What first intrigued me about this movie is that they cast Jennifer Hudson as Effie White. She' s the girl that get's cast out of the "Dreamettes". I loved Jennifer when she was on American Idol. The girl could sing then but man, she showed the world that she can sing now! The movie was really good. I'm not a huge fan of musical movies but I loved this one. I especially enjoyed the costumes! There's 2 songs that are just incredible and the movie audience applauds. Oh, Eddie Murphy does a really good job of playing a "James Brown" type of character. Beyonce looked beautiful and super skinny. She must have lost quite a bit of weight for this part. Anyway, I recommend seeing it!

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beats on hood
#27
Movie vs Broadway:
The first problem with the movie is that they didn't develop the relationship between Effie and Curtis as they did in the Broadway version. They cut out a lot of that in the movie to make room to highlight Beyonce at the end of the movie. As talented as Hudson is, you don't feel Effie's pain in the movie if you don't have a feeling for her relationship with Curtis when she sings "And I am telling you I'm not going." Not to "dis" the Beyonce extras, but the entire experience doesn't match the Broadway version. Just go to YouTube and compare Jennifer Holliday's "And I am telling you I'm not going" versus Jennifer Hudson's "And I am telling you I'm not going," and you'll get what I'm saying. Still, I agree with the Golden Globe results (in comparison to this year's competition).
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#28
I wondered if something DIVA-ish was going on there. They added that song specifically for Beyonce' there at the end, and kinda made it more her story. Which meant that there would be TWO show stopping heart pounding songs, which I quickly noticed, but also didn't care.
Those of us that know the show, know where the focus was with the play. Yes the focus shifted to the beanpole DIVA, but MAN, what a powerful number that is. My heart was racing.๐Ÿ˜ฑ
I'm going to compare this movie to Will and Grace and Life in Sowal. Bear with me on this one.:roll:
Will and Grace is supposedly about Will and Grace, but anyone who ever watched it did so to see Jack and Karen.
In Dreamgirls, it is billed as starring Jamie Foxx and Beyonce'. Yeah, WHATEVER! The stars are clearly Jennifer Hudson and Eddie Murphy.

Now for the Sowal comparison. I have lived on that beach/area for 23 years. I've seen it go through many changes. I finally left because I was heartbroken to see it become a suburb of Atlanta and Birmingham (I don't mean that in a bad way, but the personality of Seagrove and Grayton are almost gone.) But I don't ***** and moan. What I tell people that whine is this, "Let's all just be thankful that we are fortunate enough to have been part of a great era that once was, to have been a part of the greatest place on earth. Cherish those memories".

Same with Dreamgirls. This is a movie. Based on the play. This is NOT the play. Otherwise, they would have filmed the play on stage. Like they should have done with RENT. (Though I love the movie as well) A lot had to be changed in the Dreamgirls to make it more accessible to a younger audience.

I work with a diverse age group. I'm right smack in the middle (43). I grew up with Diana Ross and the Supremes, and The Jackson Five. But these kids today don't even know who those people are. But they know who Beyonce is. They also don't know how Black Music was stolen and revamped to suit a white audience. They don't know the civil rights movement. I almost wish I myself were 10 or 20 years older. If it weren't for Beyonce and Jennifer Hudson, they probably wouldn't even go see it.

Man, I've gone off on another tangent haven't I? Someone please check my medication!:floor: Where are my Pirin Tablets?:funn:
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#29
I wondered if something DIVA-ish was going on there. They added that song specifically for Beyonce' there at the end, and kinda made it more her story. Which meant that there would be TWO show stopping heart pounding songs, which I quickly noticed, but also didn't care.
Those of us that know the show, know where the focus was with the play. Yes the focus shifted to the beanpole DIVA, but MAN, what a powerful number that is. My heart was racing.๐Ÿ˜ฑ
I'm going to compare this movie to Will and Grace and Life in Sowal. Bear with me on this one.:roll:
Will and Grace is supposedly about Will and Grace, but anyone who ever watched it did so to see Jack and Karen.
In Dreamgirls, it is billed as starring Jamie Foxx and Beyonce'. Yeah, WHATEVER! The stars are clearly Jennifer Hudson and Eddie Murphy.

Now for the Sowal comparison. I have lived on that beach/area for 23 years. I've seen it go through many changes. I finally left because I was heartbroken to see it become a suburb of Atlanta and Birmingham (I don't mean that in a bad way, but the personality of Seagrove and Grayton are almost gone.) But I don't ***** and moan. What I tell people that whine is this, "Let's all just be thankful that we are fortunate enough to have been part of a great era that once was, to have been a part of the greatest place on earth. Cherish those memories".

Same with Dreamgirls. This is a movie. Based on the play. This is NOT the play. Otherwise, they would have filmed the play on stage. Like they should have done with RENT. (Though I love the movie as well) A lot had to be changed in the Dreamgirls to make it more accessible to a younger audience.

I work with a diverse age group. I'm right smack in the middle (43). I grew up with Diana Ross and the Supremes, and The Jackson Five. But these kids today don't even know who those people are. But they know who Beyonce is. They also don't know how Black Music was stolen and revamped to suit a white audience. They don't know the civil rights movement. I almost wish I myself were 10 or 20 years older. If it weren't for Beyonce and Jennifer Hudson, they probably wouldn't even go see it.

Man, I've gone off on another tangent haven't I? Someone please check my medication!:floor: Where are my Pirin Tablets?:funn:

Enjoyed your post! I have to agree with you-My daughter didn't even know who Diana Ross was before the movie! But she wanted to see it because of Beyonce and Jennifer. Of course, I took her to see it with me anyway but she really enjoyed it and bought the soundtrack for her ipod.
Teresa avatar
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#30
Movie vs Broadway:
The first problem with the movie is that they didn't develop the relationship between Effie and Curtis as they did in the Broadway version. They cut out a lot of that in the movie to make room to highlight Beyonce at the end of the movie. As talented as Hudson is, you don't feel Effie's pain in the movie if you don't have a feeling for her relationship with Curtis when she sings "And I am telling you I'm not going." Not to "dis" the Beyonce extras, but the entire experience doesn't match the Broadway version. Just go to YouTube and compare Jennifer Holliday's "And I am telling you I'm not going" versus Jennifer Hudson's "And I am telling you I'm not going," and you'll get what I'm saying. Still, I agree with the Golden Globe results (in comparison to this year's competition).


well, I haven't seen the broadway version, but I can say I think the movie is stands on its own (its own version). If you didn't feel Effie's pain in her "I'm not going" song, you must have been snoozing!๐Ÿ˜€
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beats on hood
#31
I wondered if something DIVA-ish was going on there. They added that song specifically for Beyonce' there at the end, and kinda made it more her story. Which meant that there would be TWO show stopping heart pounding songs, which I quickly noticed, but also didn't care.
Those of us that know the show, know where the focus was with the play. Yes the focus shifted to the beanpole DIVA, but MAN, what a powerful number that is. My heart was racing.๐Ÿ˜ฑ
I'm going to compare this movie to Will and Grace and Life in Sowal. Bear with me on this one.:roll:
Will and Grace is supposedly about Will and Grace, but anyone who ever watched it did so to see Jack and Karen.
In Dreamgirls, it is billed as starring Jamie Foxx and Beyonce'. Yeah, WHATEVER! The stars are clearly Jennifer Hudson and Eddie Murphy.

Now for the Sowal comparison. I have lived on that beach/area for 23 years. I've seen it go through many changes. I finally left because I was heartbroken to see it become a suburb of Atlanta and Birmingham (I don't mean that in a bad way, but the personality of Seagrove and Grayton are almost gone.) But I don't ***** and moan. What I tell people that whine is this, "Let's all just be thankful that we are fortunate enough to have been part of a great era that once was, to have been a part of the greatest place on earth. Cherish those memories".

Same with Dreamgirls. This is a movie. Based on the play. This is NOT the play. Otherwise, they would have filmed the play on stage. Like they should have done with RENT. (Though I love the movie as well) A lot had to be changed in the Dreamgirls to make it more accessible to a younger audience.

I work with a diverse age group. I'm right smack in the middle (43). I grew up with Diana Ross and the Supremes, and The Jackson Five. But these kids today don't even know who those people are. But they know who Beyonce is. They also don't know how Black Music was stolen and revamped to suit a white audience. They don't know the civil rights movement. I almost wish I myself were 10 or 20 years older. If it weren't for Beyonce and Jennifer Hudson, they probably wouldn't even go see it.

Man, I've gone off on another tangent haven't I? Someone please check my medication!:floor: Where are my Pirin Tablets?:funn:
Good points.
picky
#32
I wondered if something DIVA-ish was going on there. They added that song specifically for Beyonce' there at the end, and kinda made it more her story. Which meant that there would be TWO show stopping heart pounding songs, which I quickly noticed, but also didn't care.
Those of us that know the show, know where the focus was with the play. Yes the focus shifted to the beanpole DIVA, but MAN, what a powerful number that is. My heart was racing.๐Ÿ˜ฑ
I'm going to compare this movie to Will and Grace and Life in Sowal. Bear with me on this one.:roll:
Will and Grace is supposedly about Will and Grace, but anyone who ever watched it did so to see Jack and Karen.
In Dreamgirls, it is billed as starring Jamie Foxx and Beyonce'. Yeah, WHATEVER! The stars are clearly Jennifer Hudson and Eddie Murphy.

Now for the Sowal comparison. I have lived on that beach/area for 23 years. I've seen it go through many changes. I finally left because I was heartbroken to see it become a suburb of Atlanta and Birmingham (I don't mean that in a bad way, but the personality of Seagrove and Grayton are almost gone.) But I don't ***** and moan. What I tell people that whine is this, "Let's all just be thankful that we are fortunate enough to have been part of a great era that once was, to have been a part of the greatest place on earth. Cherish those memories".

Same with Dreamgirls. This is a movie. Based on the play. This is NOT the play. Otherwise, they would have filmed the play on stage. Like they should have done with RENT. (Though I love the movie as well) A lot had to be changed in the Dreamgirls to make it more accessible to a younger audience.

I work with a diverse age group. I'm right smack in the middle (43). I grew up with Diana Ross and the Supremes, and The Jackson Five. But these kids today don't even know who those people are. But they know who Beyonce is. They also don't know how Black Music was stolen and revamped to suit a white audience. They don't know the civil rights movement. I almost wish I myself were 10 or 20 years older. If it weren't for Beyonce and Jennifer Hudson, they probably wouldn't even go see it.

Man, I've gone off on another tangent haven't I? Someone please check my medication!:floor: Where are my Pirin Tablets?:funn:

We saw the movie tonight (I hadn't seen the play since I'm pretty well exclusively a Sondheim fan when it comes to musicals) and I'm glad we did because now I know what you were talking about in your post. I thought the movie was wonderful from start to finish. One of the most interesting things was watching the passage of the years music-wise and fashion-wise. And the background clip of the Detroit riots! That was powerful. Those were incredibly tumultuous years and how the music echoed what was going on! I think this generation of kids, who did not live through those years, will not realise how much history is in this movie.

DA, your comment about black music being stolen--did you catch the line early in the movie: "Who was the first to sing Hound Dog?" "Elvis Presley." "NO, it was Big Mama Thorton." Sigh. It's been going on a long time. Elvis took Big Mama's blues and made them palatable to the Ed Sullivan audience. The "Dreamettes" and "Eddie Thunder" weren't the first.
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#33
We saw the movie tonight (I hadn't seen the play since I'm pretty well exclusively a Sondheim fan when it comes to musicals) and I'm glad we did because now I know what you were talking about in your post. I thought the movie was wonderful from start to finish. One of the most interesting things was watching the passage of the years music-wise and fashion-wise. And the background clip of the Detroit riots! That was powerful. Those were incredibly tumultuous years and how the music echoed what was going on! I think this generation of kids, who did not live through those years, will not realise how much history is in this movie.

DA, your comment about black music being stolen--did you catch the line early in the movie: "Who was the first to sing Hound Dog?" "Elvis Presley." "NO, it was Big Mama Thorton." Sigh. It's been going on a long time. Elvis took Big Mama's blues and made them palatable to the Ed Sullivan audience. The "Dreamettes" and "Eddie Thunder" weren't the first.


Well, Mermy, I think it's gonna be a good weekend for a movie, so I think I'll go. I love history(60's/70's) and I love music, so this should be right up my alley.
picky
#34
Well, Mermy, I think it's gonna be a good weekend for a movie, so I think I'll go. I love history(60's/70's) and I love music, so this should be right up my alley.

DD, I've never been much for the Motown sound so I saw the movie only because everyone raved about it here and in the papers. Well, the music is amazing!! I can't wait to go out tomorrow and buy the soundtrack. :clap_1:
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#35
DD, I've never been much for the Motown sound so I saw the movie only because everyone raved about it here and in the papers. Well, the music is amazing!! I can't wait to go out tomorrow and buy the soundtrack. :clap_1:

I was never a huge Motown/Supremes fan either, but I am sure this will bring back lots of memories and everyone raving has definitely peaked my interest. I'll report in after I see it.
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beats on hood
#36
Like they should have done with RENT. (Though I love the movie as well)
Coincidentally we adored RENT on Broadway as well. We've seen it several times there. Also at The Fox in the ATL. Beach Jacket and I cry every time. We have the DVD, too. We cry every time.

Today for you tomorrow for me (we *love* Angel), 525600 minutes, let's open up a restaurant in Sante Fe, la vie boheme, one thousand kisses (Jesse L. Martin from Law and Order sounded awesome), etc. Love all of the songs except that we never liked the Maureen moo thing very much.

And we also get to drool over Taye Diggs in the RENT DVD. And then we watch the Stella DVD so we can drool over him some more.
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#37
Well, Mermy, I think it's gonna be a good weekend for a movie, so I think I'll go. I love history(60's/70's) and I love music, so this should be right up my alley.


you'll enjoy the movie DD!! I remember I used to adore watching Diana Ross perform - she was so glamorous and just "hot". her 70s (or was it early 80s) performances really rocked. I was a huge Michael Jackson fan too! had his poster on my wall in highschool - my dad was not amused but he tolerated it.
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#38
you'll enjoy the movie DD!! I remember I used to adore watching Diana Ross perform - she was so glamorous and just "hot". her 70s (or was it early 80s) performances really rocked. I was a huge Michael Jackson fan too! had his poster on my wall in highschool - my dad was not amused but he tolerated it.

Yeah, when I reflect on those days...Diana was pretty glamorous. Dareth was a huge fan of Michael too--I can remember vividly that poster--probably the same one--hanging on her wall for years.
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beats on hood
#39
DD, you'll also like it if you're a Beyonc? fan like I am ("Crazy in Love" is one of my ring tones). And if you aren't familiar with her, you'll get to see how multi-talented she is.
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#40
DD, you'll also like it if you're a Beyonc? fan like I am ("Crazy in Love" is one of my ring tones). And if you aren't familiar with her, you'll get to see how multi-talented she is.

I think she's beautiful....not so familiar with her music...I'm a kinda stuck in the 60's/70's kinda girl. my kids make funn of me all the time. BUT, they know every one of those old songs by heart.
dbuck avatar
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#41
I went to see Dreamgirls the other night and really enjoyed it. Who did they base Eddie Murphy's character on?
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#42
I went to see Dreamgirls the other night and really enjoyed it. Who did they base Eddie Murphy's character on?

I don't know! I was wondering this myself!
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#43
I'm going, I'm going!! ๐Ÿ˜€
picky
#44
I went to see Dreamgirls the other night and really enjoyed it. Who did they base Eddie Murphy's character on?


From one of the reviews I read on Rotten Tomatoes http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dreamgirls/

Eddie Thunder was a composite of several characters. I think this was the first time I ever saw Eddie Murphy NOT play a variation of himself in a movie. He can really act. He shoudl do it more often. ;-)
dbuck avatar
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#45
From one of the reviews I read on Rotten Tomatoes http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dreamgirls/

Eddie Thunder was a composite of several characters. I think this was the first time I ever saw Eddie Murphy NOT play a variation of himself in a movie. He can really act. He shoudl do it more often. ;-)

Eddie Murphy really did a good job in this role, actually, they all did.
DD avatar
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#46
I wondered if something DIVA-ish was going on there. They added that song specifically for Beyonce' there at the end, and kinda made it more her story. Which meant that there would be TWO show stopping heart pounding songs, which I quickly noticed, but also didn't care.
Those of us that know the show, know where the focus was with the play. Yes the focus shifted to the beanpole DIVA, but MAN, what a powerful number that is. My heart was racing.๐Ÿ˜ฑ
I'm going to compare this movie to Will and Grace and Life in Sowal. Bear with me on this one.:roll:
Will and Grace is supposedly about Will and Grace, but anyone who ever watched it did so to see Jack and Karen.
In Dreamgirls, it is billed as starring Jamie Foxx and Beyonce'. Yeah, WHATEVER! The stars are clearly Jennifer Hudson and Eddie Murphy.

Now for the Sowal comparison. I have lived on that beach/area for 23 years. I've seen it go through many changes. I finally left because I was heartbroken to see it become a suburb of Atlanta and Birmingham (I don't mean that in a bad way, but the personality of Seagrove and Grayton are almost gone.) But I don't ***** and moan. What I tell people that whine is this, "Let's all just be thankful that we are fortunate enough to have been part of a great era that once was, to have been a part of the greatest place on earth. Cherish those memories".

Same with Dreamgirls. This is a movie. Based on the play. This is NOT the play. Otherwise, they would have filmed the play on stage. Like they should have done with RENT. (Though I love the movie as well) A lot had to be changed in the Dreamgirls to make it more accessible to a younger audience.

I work with a diverse age group. I'm right smack in the middle (43). I grew up with Diana Ross and the Supremes, and The Jackson Five. But these kids today don't even know who those people are. But they know who Beyonce is. They also don't know how Black Music was stolen and revamped to suit a white audience. They don't know the civil rights movement. I almost wish I myself were 10 or 20 years older. If it weren't for Beyonce and Jennifer Hudson, they probably wouldn't even go see it.

Man, I've gone off on another tangent haven't I? Someone please check my medication!:floor: Where are my Pirin Tablets?:funn:

dka: I have to agree with you wholeheartedly here...Jennifer and Eddie were clearly the stars, imo. And, I agree that the top billing of Beyonce' and Jamie Foxx probably brought more audiences than the other two would have.
I LOVED this movie though!!
Can't wait to see what Jennifer does next!
drunkkenartist avatar
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#47
EIGHT ACADEMY AWARD NOMINATIONS
:clap_1: :clap_1: :clap_1: :clap_1: :clap_1: :clap_1: :clap_1: :clap_1:

yet it was shut out of Best Picture category:bang:

Oh well, can't win 'em all.

But it should!!!!!

dka:drink:
Teresa avatar
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#48
EIGHT ACADEMY AWARD NOMINATIONS
:clap_1: :clap_1: :clap_1: :clap_1: :clap_1: :clap_1: :clap_1: :clap_1:

yet it was shut out of Best Picture category:bang:

Oh well, can't win 'em all.

But it should!!!!!

dka:drink:

:clap_1:
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beats on hood
#49
yet it was shut out of Best Picture category
This is how big this omission was -- it came in as "Breaking News" via email from CNN (a service I subscribed to for free after 9/11):

"The musical 'Dreamgirls' led today?s Academy Awards contenders with eight nominations, but was shut out in the best picture category for which it had been considered a potential front-runner.

Watch CNN or log on to http://CNN.com and watch FREE video, plus live, commercial-free video with CNN Pipeline. CNN - The most trusted name in news."
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#50
In re to an earlier post:
"DA, your comment about black music being stolen--did you catch the line early in the movie: "Who was the first to sing Hound Dog?" "Elvis Presley." "NO, it was Big Mama Thorton." Sigh. It's been going on a long time. Elvis took Big Mama's blues and made them palatable to the Ed Sullivan audience. The "Dreamettes" and "Eddie Thunder" weren't the first."
That's actually the point I meant to convey. It is brought up in Hairspray as well. It had been going on for quite sometime. Having it happen to the characters in the movie personified the situation and put a face on it.

As for the "Breaking News" on CNN. Obviously we as a movie watching public feel strongly enough about it that "breaking news" was warranted. Think about it. Jennifer Hudson gets the boot from American Idol, but goes on to get the dream role of a lifetime. THEN gets the Golden Globe award. And I could not tell you for the life of me who the other winners of American Idol are/were. Gone, AND forgotten.

Dreamgirls the movie gets a snub in the Best Picture category, but off the top of my head I could not really tell you what else was nominated. "The Queen" I think is one. (wonder why I would remember that?:floor: )(Actually, Helen Mirren is one of my all time favorites, that's why). So it may have been snubbed, but this snowball of a movie has really only started to grow. More good things will come from this and people will be talking about this movie for quite some time.๐Ÿ˜€

Also, Eddie Murphy did an interview on A&E. That character is a combination of many people, including but not limited to James Brown. Remember all of it was loooooosely based on actual events.

My advice to all who haven't seen it and those that are going to go yet again such as myself. JUST SIT BACK AND ENJOY IT!!!!
And make sure you go pee first!!! Its over 2 hours!:funn: :funn: :funn: ๐Ÿ˜ฑ

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Jdarg avatar
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#51
Saw Dreamgirls last night- very enjoyable! Dragged a bit in the middle, and a couple of Effie's songs really dragged out a bit (too much of the wailing for me), but overall a very good movie. Eddie Murphy was amazing--

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