why are kids AND parents (emphasis on parents) peddling at the corner of 30A and Defuniak for money for a trip. Not even kids from this county, begging for handouts from everyone. the kids from South Walton that I know and sponsor in boosters work for money and these kids parents are very pushy about passerbys "GIVING" money to them for a trip and I don't even know where they are from. When I asked, they walked to the next car. WTF!!! Have a car wash already or do something besides peddle your daughters on the corner for dollar bills
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Just wondering why the science fair has "kids", the soccer team has "boosters", but the band has "geeks"I don't quite get this--are the soccer boosters the players, or the people who support them?
I guess we all take offense to something.....I don't like labeling kids based on their interests (and no, my kids are not in the band.....but if they decide to go that route in the future I hope you don't call them geeks)
We had senior shirts in high school, with a nickname on the back. I don't have a picture of the back of mine, but I have a picture with the front. (If you're wondering about the front, we were the Red Elephants, so there were Trunks & Trunkettes.) I was new that year, so I just got the stigma out of the way. The back says "BAND GEEK." I'm not taking credit for the trend, but I know several band programs who have "geek" and "nerd" t-shirts these days.
I'm still a band geek, and if you want to call me that to my face I can't say that it bothers me.
I also throw like a girl...
got any pics?
My son is in the band....and he plays basketball, football, baseball and soccer. He is definetly not a geek.
A real renaissance man
Beach Fanatic
Interesting commentary in today's WSJ which speaks to this behavior:
Blame It on Mr. Rogers: Why Young Adults Feel So Entitled
July 5, 2007; Page B5
Don Chance, a finance professor at Louisiana State University, says it dawned on him last spring. The semester was ending, and as usual, students were making a pilgrimage to his office, asking for the extra points needed to lift their grades to A's.
"They felt so entitled," he recalls, "and it just hit me. We can blame Mr. Rogers."
Fred Rogers, the late TV icon, told several generations of children that they were "special" just for being whoever they were. He meant well, and he was a sterling role model in many ways. But what often got lost in his self-esteem-building patter was the idea that being special comes from working hard and having high expectations for yourself.
Now Mr. Rogers, like Dr. Spock before him, has been targeted for re-evaluation. And he's not the only one. As educators and researchers struggle to define the new parameters of parenting, circa 2007, some are revisiting the language of child ego-boosting. What are the downsides of telling kids they're special? Is it a mistake to have children call us by our first names? When we focus all conversations on our children's lives, are we denying them the insights found when adults talk about adult things?
Some are calling for a recalibration of the mind-sets and catch-phrases that have taken hold in recent decades. Among the expressions now being challenged: "You're special." On the Yahoo Answers Web site, a discussion thread about Mr. Rogers begins with this posting: "Mr. Rogers spent years telling little creeps that he liked them just the way they were. He should have been telling them there was a lot of room for improvement. ... Nice as he was, and as good as his intentions may have been, he did a disservice."
Signs of narcissism among college students have been rising for 25 years, according to a recent study led by a San Diego State University psychologist. Obviously, Mr. Rogers alone can't be blamed for this. But as Prof. Chance sees it, "he's representative of a culture of excessive doting."
Prof. Chance teaches many Asian-born students, and says they accept whatever grade they're given; they see B's and C's as an indication that they must work harder, and that their elders assessed them accurately. They didn't grow up with Mr. Rogers or anyone else telling them they were born special.
By contrast, American students often view lower grades as a reason to "hit you up for an A because they came to class and feel they worked hard," says Prof. Chance. He wishes more parents would offer kids this perspective: "The world owes you nothing. You have to work and compete. If you want to be special, you'll have to prove it."
"They're just children." When kids are rude, self-absorbed or disrespectful, some parents allow or endure it by saying, "Well, they're just children." The phrase is a worthy one when it's applied to a teachable moment, such as telling kids not to stick their fingers in electrical sockets. But as an excuse or as justification for unacceptable behavior, "They're just children" is just misguided.
"Call me Cindy." Is it appropriate to place kids on the same level as adults, with all of us calling each other by our first names? On one hand, the familiarity can mark a loving closeness between child and adult. But on the other hand, when a child calls an adult Mr. or Ms., it helps him recognize that status is earned by age and experience. It's also a reminder to respect your elders.
"Tell me about your day." It is crucial to talk to kids about their lives, and that dialogue can enrich the whole family. However, parents also need to discuss their own lives and experiences, says Alvin Rosenfeld, a Manhattan-based child psychiatrist who studies family interactions.
In America today, life often begins with the anointing of "His Majesty, the Fetus," he says. From then on, many parents focus their conversations on their kids. Today's parents "are the best-educated generation ever," says Dr. Rosenfeld. "So why do our kids see us primarily discussing kids' schedules and activities?"
He encourages parents to talk about their passions and interests; about politics, business, world events. "Because everything is child-centered today, we're depriving children of adults," he says. "If they never see us as adults being adults, how will they deal with important matters when it is their world?"
Write to Jeffrey Zaslow at jeffrey.zaslow@wsj.com
Blame It on Mr. Rogers: Why Young Adults Feel So Entitled
July 5, 2007; Page B5
Don Chance, a finance professor at Louisiana State University, says it dawned on him last spring. The semester was ending, and as usual, students were making a pilgrimage to his office, asking for the extra points needed to lift their grades to A's.
"They felt so entitled," he recalls, "and it just hit me. We can blame Mr. Rogers."
Fred Rogers, the late TV icon, told several generations of children that they were "special" just for being whoever they were. He meant well, and he was a sterling role model in many ways. But what often got lost in his self-esteem-building patter was the idea that being special comes from working hard and having high expectations for yourself.
Now Mr. Rogers, like Dr. Spock before him, has been targeted for re-evaluation. And he's not the only one. As educators and researchers struggle to define the new parameters of parenting, circa 2007, some are revisiting the language of child ego-boosting. What are the downsides of telling kids they're special? Is it a mistake to have children call us by our first names? When we focus all conversations on our children's lives, are we denying them the insights found when adults talk about adult things?
Some are calling for a recalibration of the mind-sets and catch-phrases that have taken hold in recent decades. Among the expressions now being challenged: "You're special." On the Yahoo Answers Web site, a discussion thread about Mr. Rogers begins with this posting: "Mr. Rogers spent years telling little creeps that he liked them just the way they were. He should have been telling them there was a lot of room for improvement. ... Nice as he was, and as good as his intentions may have been, he did a disservice."
Signs of narcissism among college students have been rising for 25 years, according to a recent study led by a San Diego State University psychologist. Obviously, Mr. Rogers alone can't be blamed for this. But as Prof. Chance sees it, "he's representative of a culture of excessive doting."
Prof. Chance teaches many Asian-born students, and says they accept whatever grade they're given; they see B's and C's as an indication that they must work harder, and that their elders assessed them accurately. They didn't grow up with Mr. Rogers or anyone else telling them they were born special.
By contrast, American students often view lower grades as a reason to "hit you up for an A because they came to class and feel they worked hard," says Prof. Chance. He wishes more parents would offer kids this perspective: "The world owes you nothing. You have to work and compete. If you want to be special, you'll have to prove it."
"They're just children." When kids are rude, self-absorbed or disrespectful, some parents allow or endure it by saying, "Well, they're just children." The phrase is a worthy one when it's applied to a teachable moment, such as telling kids not to stick their fingers in electrical sockets. But as an excuse or as justification for unacceptable behavior, "They're just children" is just misguided.
"Call me Cindy." Is it appropriate to place kids on the same level as adults, with all of us calling each other by our first names? On one hand, the familiarity can mark a loving closeness between child and adult. But on the other hand, when a child calls an adult Mr. or Ms., it helps him recognize that status is earned by age and experience. It's also a reminder to respect your elders.
"Tell me about your day." It is crucial to talk to kids about their lives, and that dialogue can enrich the whole family. However, parents also need to discuss their own lives and experiences, says Alvin Rosenfeld, a Manhattan-based child psychiatrist who studies family interactions.
In America today, life often begins with the anointing of "His Majesty, the Fetus," he says. From then on, many parents focus their conversations on their kids. Today's parents "are the best-educated generation ever," says Dr. Rosenfeld. "So why do our kids see us primarily discussing kids' schedules and activities?"
He encourages parents to talk about their passions and interests; about politics, business, world events. "Because everything is child-centered today, we're depriving children of adults," he says. "If they never see us as adults being adults, how will they deal with important matters when it is their world?"
Write to Jeffrey Zaslow at jeffrey.zaslow@wsj.com
SoWal Insider
Interesting commentary in today's WSJ which speaks to this behavior:
Blame It on Mr. Rogers: Why Young Adults Feel So Entitled
July 5, 2007; Page B5
Don Chance, a finance professor at Louisiana State University, says it dawned on him last spring. The semester was ending, and as usual, students were making a pilgrimage to his office, asking for the extra points needed to lift their grades to A's.
"They felt so entitled," he recalls, "and it just hit me. We can blame Mr. Rogers."
Welcome to Professor's Chance's Neighborhood.
Go ahead Prof, give them an easy A and send their butts out on Wall Street. They'll be back Sofa Surfing at Mom's house before the ink on the diploma is dry....then Mom will see how 'special' they really are when their little darlin' is putting that Finance degree to good use working the cash register at Alvin's Island.
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Beach Crab
the cars that were on the corner said Thank You, going to California, so I don't know if everyone is sponsoring a family or a school, but like I said, when I asked one of the parents she walked away from me, which is what irritated me so much
The Niceville Band is performing at the Tournament of Roses parade in California on January first. It's $1700 to send each kid. That's a lot of money. Believe me I am not standing on the street corner begging for money to send my son...I have paid part of it out of my pocket..and am having do bagging groceries as well as doing some fund raisers (selling cookbooks as well as tickets to win a trip for two on a seven night cruise).
It's a great honor for these kids...and they are representing our area. I am very proud of their accomplishment!
SWGB
Does anyone remember the softball team that took over the intersection of 30A and 283 during the July 4th weekend? They were from out of town and staying in Grayton Beach for a softball tournament in PCB. They were raising money for their stay! Here's an idea stay on PCB where the rates are vastly lower and stop knocking on my window for a donation. I rolled down my window and told the mother that she was not fund raising, as that would imply a good or service provided for a donation, but in fact was panhandling and begging for money. Her only response was to push her coffee can thru my window as though that was going to get me to empty my wallet. I wanted to go back and drop a cat turd in their little donation bucket, but a good friend talked me out of it. I did however call the WCSD and report the panhandling that was going on.
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The Niceville Band is performing at the Tournament of Roses parade in California on January first. It's $1700 to send each kid. That's a lot of money. Believe me I am not standing on the street corner begging for money to send my son...I have paid part of it out of my pocket..and am having do bagging groceries as well as doing some fund raisers (selling cookbooks as well as tickets to win a trip for two on a seven night cruise).
It's a great honor for these kids...and they are representing our area. I am very proud of their accomplishment!
More info? I'm sure that some of these other folks cook. (I'm about to have a bowl of Cheerios for lunch, myself...) And I'm pretty sure that a lot of them are half of a couple. (Cheerios at a table for one, that is.)
got any pics?
I pay mine to do yard work
hmmmm......can't remember
I pay mine to do yard work
:nono1: They're knocking me out of a job, then! :angry:
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