Is it july 4th and nobody told me?!?! It just took me 20 minutes to get from the tom thumb in Seagrove to 395......AHHHHH!
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108SWGB
mmmmmm..........scattered, smothered, covered and chunked from the Waffle House after a long night
We need a Waffle House or equivalent on 30A. I can borrow Singinchicken's wig and scare up some pineapple earrings.

SoWal Expert
mmmmmm..........scattered, smothered, covered and chunked from the Waffle House after a long night
The only time I can tolerate WH. And then, the only thing that'll do.

SoWal Insider
some of us are looking for business not tips.also they might buy houses or lots.
:roll: When are people going to stop thinking purchasing Florida real estate is akin to buying souvenir refrigerator magnets?
<"My parents visited Florida and all they bought was this lousy condo.">
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SWGB
some of us are looking for business not tips.also they might buy houses or lots. wouldn't we like that? not everyone makes their living off of tips,not that there is anything wrong with it. i used to.
Isn't it customary to tip a closing agent?

SoWal Insider
ok, due to unseen circumstances I have to go to wal -mart, in PCB.:shock: Ya'll pray for me!!! 

Beach Fanatic
What if the additional cut-through road only connected 30A to 395, did not go to Publix and any direct connection to whatever becomes of Nature Walk is cut off? I hesitiate to suggest this, but really something is going to have to be done and we need to discuss options. With the Sandor move perhaps going on this morning, those traveling to the elementary school or SWHS might not have received the early warning like the Seaside school. And this is testing time.
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You know, I'd not mind the crowds half as much if I thought they would be pumping money into great restaurants and great shops and helping our local businesses thrive. The problem is, these people don't seem to be going anywhere but Publix -- oh, and the wine store next to Publix. Their liquor section looked like it had been hit hard and often. They were unloading boxes of tequila like madmen.
Please tell me I'm wrong, and I'll tolerate them more cheerfully.
Please tell me I'm wrong, and I'll tolerate them more cheerfully.
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Unfortunately I had to make a trip to Destin today. Crazy traffic and then mix in the rain with it. Saw one fender bender near hurricane lanes. Someone talking on the phone in the rain and ran right into the back of an SUV.
There must have been another one in the West lane somewhere because traffice was at a standstill from Bass Pro to Baytown Wharf around 12:30.
It took me 40 minutes to go 12 miles.
Stay out of Destin
There must have been another one in the West lane somewhere because traffice was at a standstill from Bass Pro to Baytown Wharf around 12:30.
It took me 40 minutes to go 12 miles.
Stay out of Destin

SoWal Expert
What if the additional cut-through road only connected 30A to 395, did not go to Publix and any direct connection to whatever becomes of Nature Walk is cut off?It doesn't matter if it goes to Publix or Regions bank. The problem will be that it cuts through residential neighborhoods, and that is dangerous. As I described the kids on bicycles all over the WC cut through road, didn't you get the idea of the danger it presents? BTW, expecting people to drive 17 mph, anywhere, is rather silly, unless the cars are behind bicyclists. Would you want a high-traffic cut through road in your front yard? I sure wouldn't, especially if I had pets or kids.
Beach Lover
It doesn't matter if it goes to Publix or Regions bank. The problem will be that it cuts through residential neighborhoods, and that is dangerous. As I described the kids on bicycles all over the WC cut through road, didn't you get the idea of the danger it presents? BTW, expecting people to drive 17 mph, anywhere, is rather silly, unless the cars are behind bicyclists. Would you want a high-traffic cut through road in your front yard? I sure wouldn't, especially if I had pets or kids.
Amen! It doesn't seem that the developers took into account that a large number of people and cars would be traveling through there at the same time. Because I refuse to go through seaside and I mean for any reason accept to collect a lottery check I cut through WC.
The 17 miles an hour is merely an opportunity for the bicyclists you just passed to catch up to you at the next stop sign!

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It isn't that I disagree with many of your points. A road was cut through our quiet neighborhood about 20 years ago, against strong opposition. It is as bad if not worse than we told them it would be. An illegal development went in against much public opposition. I'm just saying we need to think about alternate routes. The east - west road off 395 is not through any neighborhood. The trick would be finding a connection to 30A that might work. Your strong opposition to using the paved San Juan road is most duly noted. Could the east-west road be extended to say where Collaborations was? Somewhere closer? Farther away? Some utility easement that is not through an existing residential street
. Just thought it was worth looking into. I really don't relish disagreeing with someone as experienced and exhaulted as you SmilingJoe.
May I never have to again.
. Just thought it was worth looking into. I really don't relish disagreeing with someone as experienced and exhaulted as you SmilingJoe.
May I never have to again.Edited
SoWal Expert
I don't completely disagree with the need for another parallel road, but as noted, to cut through an existing neighborhood is more where I step in. I've waited twenty minutes to get through that intersection, too. That is why I don't live in Atlanta -- I don't like being stuck in traffic. As more people build and more people come to South Walton, the traffic will get worse. No debate there. Maybe one first step is to get the County to stop increasing existing densities on property. The answer may be something other than building more roads for additional cars. As the SoapP said, the more traffic on the road, the more likely people will find alternate means of travel, or decide to stay in their own neighborhood to shop and do things. With so much of the land between 98 and 30A being State Forest, it seems rather silly to me to have a second parallel road to 30A (98 being the first one).
Do we need larger beaches to hold more people, too? What about adding an addition to the WC Publix? It gets a little crowded. I guess the answer is yes, based on the current beach restoration project and the addition of another Publix on 98. I think Publix could have better flow if the tourists didn't shop for groceries in groups of five to ten people. Nowhere else do people shop for groceries in groups that large. Again, the answer to the problem may lie elsewhere.
Do we need larger beaches to hold more people, too? What about adding an addition to the WC Publix? It gets a little crowded. I guess the answer is yes, based on the current beach restoration project and the addition of another Publix on 98. I think Publix could have better flow if the tourists didn't shop for groceries in groups of five to ten people. Nowhere else do people shop for groceries in groups that large. Again, the answer to the problem may lie elsewhere.
SoWal Guide
Quit telling tourists to use the side roads by the wheelhouse! :angry: They need to sit in traffic at 395 until they learn the concepts of stop signs, brakes, and yield!
here here!
delete all posts referring to back streets!!! never tell anyone about them!!!SoWal Expert
here here!I gave her rep points for that post.delete all posts referring to back streets!!! never tell anyone about them!!!

Beach Lover
I gave her rep points for that post.
As were deserved!
OKay so a little shift here... what gives with the 4-way stop at CR 283???? What happened to stopping on the white line the county so graciously painted for us. I dont know that I have ever gotten through the stop sign without wondering how much further the east bound traffic can get in the middle of the intersection. To top it off our faithful tourist who visit us every year seemed to have picked this nasty habit up from us locals but added a twist, now instead of stopping in the middle of the intersection so someone else can go they just roll on through it.. Amazes me that we dont have more wrecks there. Okay sorry off my soap box now, wow that was theraputic... LOL

SoWal Insider
Sadly, the tourists are beginning to pick up on this trick... used to work really well, but the last few times I've done it I've seen a few AL and GA tags doing the same thing.
Tourists are like lemmings--if someone leads, they will follow...
We have a Ga. tag and take the cut-thru. Of course we own a house in one of the neighborhoods, that makes this very convenient. Maybe all of the lemmings aren't tourist. ;-)
Beach Lover
We have a Ga. tag and take the cut-thru. Of course we own a house in one of the neighborhoods, that makes this very convenient. Maybe all of the lemmings aren't tourist. ;-)
Very nice point... its the same for me when I go back to Alabama to visit, automatically I am looked at cross ways because I do know the backways but have an out of state tag. I lived in Al for 27 years, I would hardly think that would make me a tourist.
SoWal Guide
I gave her rep points for that post.

well, I guess the tourists are busy looting publix and having funn so they won't be looking here for any street directions.. much.
SoWal Expert
We tried to go to Destin to get an allergy shot- had to turn around when we got to Grand Boulevard, since traffic was bumper to bumper and crawling.
Rain + spring break = EVERYBODY GET IN THE CAR AND GO SHOPPING!!
Rain + spring break = EVERYBODY GET IN THE CAR AND GO SHOPPING!!
Beach Fanatic
You both make an excellent point--perhaps I didn't phrase that very well. Tourists typically have out-of-state tags, although not everyone with such a tag is a tourist. My father was in the navy and, despite Walton Co. being home for us, we had out-of-state tags for many years.
I apologize if I offended anyone... if you aren't a tourist, simply consider yourself a "leader" instead of a "lemming".
I apologize if I offended anyone... if you aren't a tourist, simply consider yourself a "leader" instead of a "lemming".

Beach Lover
You both make an excellent point--perhaps I didn't phrase that very well. Tourists typically have out-of-state tags, although not everyone with such a tag is a tourist. My father was in the navy and, despite Walton Co. being home for us, we had out-of-state tags for many years.
I apologize if I offended anyone... if you aren't a tourist, simply consider yourself a "leader" instead of a "lemming".
I definitely wasn't offended, I myself am quick to call someone a tourist when I see out of state tags instead of actually thinking they own a home here. This same situation occured with airport rd behind wal-mart in destin. For a while it was local only and then low and behold everyone knew about it. Now it is just as crowded as 98.
hmmmm......can't remember
Sadly, the tourists are beginning to pick up on this trick... used to work really well, but the last few times I've done it I've seen a few AL and GA tags doing the same thing.
Tourists are like lemmings--if someone leads, they will follow...
We have a Ga. tag and take the cut-thru. Of course we own a house in one of the neighborhoods, that makes this very convenient. Maybe all of the lemmings aren't tourist. ;-)
Very nice point... its the same for me when I go back to Alabama to visit, automatically I am looked at cross ways because I do know the backways but have an out of state tag. I lived in Al for 27 years, I would hardly think that would make me a tourist.
You both make an excellent point--perhaps I didn't phrase that very well. Tourists typically have out-of-state tags, although not everyone with such a tag is a tourist. My father was in the navy and, despite Walton Co. being home for us, we had out-of-state tags for many years.
I apologize if I offended anyone... if you aren't a tourist, simply consider yourself a "leader" instead of a "lemming".
As a descendant of a Native American, I'm offended by all of you. Get off my trails.
(Kidding.
)SoWal Insider
You both make an excellent point--perhaps I didn't phrase that very well. Tourists typically have out-of-state tags, although not everyone with such a tag is a tourist. My father was in the navy and, despite Walton Co. being home for us, we had out-of-state tags for many years.
I apologize if I offended anyone... if you aren't a tourist, simply consider yourself a "leader" instead of a "lemming".
No offense taken at all.

Beach Fanatic
Sadly, the tourists are beginning to pick up on this trick... used to work really well, but the last few times I've done it I've seen a few AL and GA tags doing the same thing.
Tourists are like lemmings--if someone leads, they will follow...
Darling, daughter-in-law.....hope they were semi-locals and not tourists. We have to be very quiet about the back roads...it may not be too late. SWGB is very helpful...too helpful sometimes.....tsk, tsk....do not give up anything that you don't have too. We have been discovered, and we have very few secrets left.
Love seeing the picture of my Granddog!!!!

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Advice from the local Publix manager - Do all your grocery shopping for next week on Friday.
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