what happened to my grandson's food stamps

Okay folks, it seems to me the thread was started in an attempt to understand why the food stamps were lowered. The attitude that she should support herself and the child by herself and forget the father is a little cold in my book. Looking further into this I found out that if he was in prison she would be eligible for child support and the state would simply bill him either deducting it from any wages earned in prison (not much) and then rolling into a civil lein after release.

I find it interesting that no one has pointed out the father has an obligation here and while he is being a louse he has left his flesh and blood in a very bad situation. I don't advocate someone using welfare their whole life, but this is the exact situation in which welfare is intended. An unexpected loss of income or support that is needed to maintain the well being and health of someone who cannot do it themselves (i.e. a child/infant).

It's not stated in the OP, but it also sounds like the mother has gotten a job and therefore lost benefits due to additional income that cannot cover that loss.

I really feel that we can do better than bicker over semantics and wording and help this person.

Reading back over the entire thread, it appears I should have just waited a little longer before commenting.:blush:

I can clearly see the caring and good advice I usually see and so have come to expect on this board.

More for you...

You bolded temporary above. Unless I am reading the original post wrong, it sounds like the mother has been without support from the father for a year and that during all of this time she has been receiving $230/month in foodstamps and that it was recently cut to $30...

Is a year temporary?

If you thought I was rude before then I shudder to think how I come off now. The quote in the original thread that served as the tipping point for me in reaching out with some tough love is this one-

"Can anyone tell me why the state of Florida cannot feed the kids!"

Where does this sense of entitlement come from?

Oh boy, go easy on me...

We are talking about $183 a month to help out in a jam. Somehow you managed to infer that she is living solely and wholely off of the taxpayer or simply wanted to press your agenda forward. The ideas you have that you are chomping at the bit to share... start a fresh thread.

It's no wonder why so many "view" a thread and run.
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We are talking about $183 a month to help out in a jam. Somehow you managed to infer that she is living solely and wholely off of the taxpayer or simply wanted to press your agenda forward. The ideas you have that you are chomping at the bit to share... start a fresh thread.

Well, I went silent for an hour...
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I know, I am pathetic...

Gordo, I made no such inference. My agenda was/is to help. If you have the energy to put a thread out there called- "Ways to make an extra $200 a month without public aid or deadbeat dads" I will gladly participate in a productive way. Until then, I am fine posting comments here. Not everyone thinks I am rude or off base...

Good day...

It's no wonder why so many "view" a thread and run.
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:wave: :leaving:

I have an idea:

Destin Concierge, what does the baby need right now? Formula, diapers, things along that line? I'm not going to support a kid, but I can't watch one suffer. Let me know what's needed and I will do my best to get it for you.

i'm sure there would be many interested in doing this as well.

Geowickey, I wasn't singling anyone out this morning, just reacting to the general unsympathetic tone of the posts. As someone said later, we show more sympathy when someone loses a dog then we did responding to a local who is having trouble making ends meet and feed their child. The later emails about donating, other resources etc. were much more what I would expect.

I highlighted the temporary, because while I think that we have a moral and societal obligation to help those who are down on their luck, I also think it should only be for a short time period.

Can anyone tell me why the state of Florida cannot feed the kids!

Here's my snarky answer: Because Florida is pouring tons of taxpayer dollars into supporting a kid called JOE.
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I don't think the initial post has provided enough info to come up with a suitable answer to the situation other than pointing the daughter in the direction of social services and Granny for help. (What about the other set of grandparents?) The father is on the run and she'll have to put her faith in the "system" to track him down--she should at least have first dibs on any "economic stimulus" and tax rebates he's received. (Providing that this is his only child.)

Unfortunately, with the recession, inflation and state tax revenue drying up, it's only going to get worse. Geowickey is on-track with the answer that the child's mom is going to have to dig deep to pull this off--that's just what moms with children do.

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Scooter, (and Goodwitch too because you thanked her post):
I assume the above was for me...

Pls tell me when or how I was rude... Pls tell me when I said someone should have thought about $ before they got pregnant or that they should go get a job...

You have the wrong guy...

My own grandmother received public aid. I cast no judgement and don't need a refresher on how there is nothing wrong with someone on hard times needing a temporary shot in the arm...

The original poster said- "Until the father lives up to his obligations, what is she to do"? And except for my attempts at changing our paradigm (and you calling me rude)-
the thread seems to be digging into the system and how/why the amt of foodstamps the young mother can get has dropped, what bill was passed, yada yada...

My thought is that the poster and the young mother can spend precious time trying to understand why foodstamp allowance was cut. We could all spin wheels thinking about how to get the deadbeat dad to pay her the $200. Sounds like a lot of heartache to me...

Or we could put our heads together and come up with a real solution...

But before this can happen- (IMHO) there needs to be a fundamental change of hearts and minds...

The original posting read to me like-
"There is nothing we can do until the deadbeat dad steps up and until then we are screwed because of what the state did. How can they do this?"

The poster and the mother can do more for themselves short term, midterm and long term than the dad or the state will ever do. Once they realize this- nothing can stop them...

Are these rude words?

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I was simply indicating that perhap a bit more compassion and sensitivity could have been included in your post...for example, the way people reacted to your request for help awhile back...

Sometimes people need to know others care, more than they need to be told what they should do.

and, the question seemed to be: How could this happen, and so suddenly?

Others stepped up; and even more, perhaps, in a PM.

I agree with Geowickey in the fact that all people need to be prepared to independently support themselves. Women are particularly bad at doing this. (I've recently put a lot of thought behind this -- but I will spare you my complete rant. )And clearly the father hasn't proven to be a reliable source of support. But part of independently supporting yourself CAN include a period of time on public assistance. And that time CAN be over 1 year if you are working on a plan -- such as finishing a degree.

Now, does anyone have any knowledge of what caused food stamps to be cut back so drastically? Seems like an unfair reduction.

I have an idea:

Destin Concierge, what does the baby need right now? Formula, diapers, things along that line? I'm not going to support a kid, but I can't watch one suffer. Let me know what's needed and I will do my best to get it for you.

let me know also, if the baby is a girl I have mucho amounts of girls clothes that I will be giving away in the next few weeks....:wave:

Count me in, too.

Now, does anyone have any knowledge of what caused food stamps to be cut back so drastically? Seems like an unfair reduction.

The Mom needs to contact The Department of Children and Families and ask.

While it's true that this message board is a good source of Christmas Party Dip Recipes and giving timely warnings on the Imminent Meltdown of the US Economic System, :cool: we can't access DCF case files and review and correct discrepancies (yet).

I kinda have a feeling that the daughter already knows why her food stamps were cut back--she's just not forthcoming with the information.

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