Hey all thought i would give you a update on the state's dogfly spraying program. As of june 30th it will be officially done away with and most assets going to forrestry with exception of the plane which is for sale!!!. The director is your new mosquito director,myself and one of the secretaries now work for Fla A&M mosquito research lab in panama city. The remaining 2 employees have yet to find employment. so the only dog fly spraying going on this fall will be on panama city beach as they have their own helicopter. Im actually working for Enviromental impact section. (effects of pesticides on butterflies,bees, dragonflies.crabs and fish just to name a few) Including an endangered species called Miami blue's .Also im doing a little study of my own on the use of plastic bags filled with water for use on the beach for dogfly's. Ill ley you all know how it goes.
Xdogflyguy
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Beach Fanatic
Well actually....the yellow flies attacked the lawn tractor when my mother mowed this morning. Got her too. They like the heat and the vibration. Mosquitos are bad in Pt. Washington about sunset, probably because I live next door to a swamp. Haven't seen any dog flies yet...but they will come and you will detest them.
I am not for killing unnecessarily, however, mosquitos pose a dangerous health threat. Anything containing water (ie; flower pots, magnolia leaves) get rid of them or empty them....that helps. Also, if you are having a problem, call the mosquito commission to have them come to your home and evaluate the problem If there is a swamp or a ditch holding water they may be able to put those larvae eating fish in that body of water to kill mosquitos before they hatch. Eradicating them before they become a problem could help prevent the need to spray.
I am not for killing unnecessarily, however, mosquitos pose a dangerous health threat. Anything containing water (ie; flower pots, magnolia leaves) get rid of them or empty them....that helps. Also, if you are having a problem, call the mosquito commission to have them come to your home and evaluate the problem If there is a swamp or a ditch holding water they may be able to put those larvae eating fish in that body of water to kill mosquitos before they hatch. Eradicating them before they become a problem could help prevent the need to spray.
Beach Fanatic
As far as the mosquito board making uninformed decisions as claimed by Floridagirl, I have to disagree. No matter what the commission wanted, it all came down to funding from the state....period.
Beach LoverAuthor
Hey Seagrovegirl
Actually it was the commission's decision not to spray along with lower than normal dogfly counts over the last few years ,with little or no support from other counties as well. the state felt it was a seldom used program and that they were not getting enough complaint calls or calls of support and they had to make decisions on what budget cuts to make. so it was an easy decision for them. save money, less headaches, no more worries about old plane , chemical cost etc,etc . so the commission's decision not to spray in my opinion was just the straw to brake the camel's back. but the entomologists say they (think) the low dogfly counts were because of a few dryer than normal years and less farms for the flies to breed at. so we will just have to wait and see i for one hope their wrong or i hope the plastic bag and water works
Actually it was the commission's decision not to spray along with lower than normal dogfly counts over the last few years ,with little or no support from other counties as well. the state felt it was a seldom used program and that they were not getting enough complaint calls or calls of support and they had to make decisions on what budget cuts to make. so it was an easy decision for them. save money, less headaches, no more worries about old plane , chemical cost etc,etc . so the commission's decision not to spray in my opinion was just the straw to brake the camel's back. but the entomologists say they (think) the low dogfly counts were because of a few dryer than normal years and less farms for the flies to breed at. so we will just have to wait and see i for one hope their wrong or i hope the plastic bag and water works
SoWal Expert
My wish is that you would at least get all the info before being rash,.... It's a scary thought, that decisions involving the welfare of other people are made, or will be made, without knowing all the facts, or even a desire to know. That they don't care about the citizen's they are affecting, or causing to suffer.
I couldn't have said it better myself. Try holding up a mirror in front of you and read that aloud.
dogflyguy, glad you found other work in with the mosquito research place in PC. Thanks for the update.
Beach Fanatic
Florida Girl, while I don't agree with your position on the dog flies, I sure as Hell admire your spunk! You have your opinion and you are going to stick to it. If someone can really offer you strong information regarding the spraying of dog flies, I am sure you will consider it fully before discarding it. Too many on this board are closed minded and never listen to the thoughts of others. I know, now I will be accused of being close minded and I probably am but I admire someone who stands up for their principles even when I don't agree with them and doesn't back down until there is ample proof they are wrong. While I don't agree with your position on the dog fly issue, I'm also sure you would be a voice of reason and reality on the Mosquito Control Board.
SoWal Expert
With all due respect, Andy A, having spunk doesn't equate to being a voice of reason and reality.
Beach Fanatic
Florida Girl, while I don't agree with your position on the dog fly issue, I sure as H--- admire your spunk. (Is that better, moderator). I think you would be a voice of reason on the Mosquito Control Board and would carefully research your position before voting. Carry on and know that some on this board are not so close minded as to not allow an open expression of one's opinions and beliefs.
Beach Fanatic
With all due respect, Andy A, having spunk doesn't equate to being a voice of reason and reality.IMO, you can have spunk AND reason and reality.
SoWal Expert
Florida Girl, while I don't agree with your position on the dog fly issue, I sure as H--- admire your spunk. (Is that better, moderator). I think you would be a voice of reason on the Mosquito Control Board and would carefully research your position before voting. Carry on and know that some on this board are not so close minded as to not allow an open expression of one's opinions and beliefs.
Andy, I sometimes forget that others look at that word, "moderator" under my name. I was not suggesting that you change your statements. Sorry if I miscommunicated that in some way. My moderation allows any words they use in Church, and Hell is one of those words.
Beach Fanatic
Andy, I sometimes forget that others look at that word, "moderator" under my name. I was not suggesting that you change your statements. Sorry if I miscommunicated that in some way. My moderation allows any words they use in Church, and Hell is one of those words.No, SJ, it is me who must apologize this time. I did not note another page had been started and drew the erroneous conclusion my whole post had been removed and I was, admittedly, unhappy.
SoWal Expert
:funn: that has happened to me a time or two, also. no problem. carry on.
margarita brocolia
................... I believe we are on the top of the food chain, due the "grey matter" between our ears that seperates us from animals. We have great responsibilty to manage our land, and I take that seriously.
Put a smart, educated, experienced human up against an insect (dog fly, mosquito ....) and see which can live the longest. My money is on the insect. Think about their extremely shorter life cycle and ability to adapt, mutate, develop resistances within these cycles. Now how long is it going to take that human? All the gray matter in the world can't compete with an insects ability to change. imo!
There's an old saying, may as well tell the truth, people believe what they want to anyway! Seems irrelevant what I say, some individuals interpret it however they want. Whatever! You are bold enough to state your opinion; I have a right to do the same. I can't force you to agree; neither can you force me to agree. My wish is that you would at least get all the info before being rash, and unless you were either here before the Mosquito control was established, or know someone who was and actually believe their testimony, you don't have all the facts. I'm sure if you looked, you could find someone. It's a scary thought, that decisions involving the welfare of other people are made, or will be made, without knowing all the facts, or even a desire to know. That they don't care about the citizen's they are affecting, or causing to suffer.
I truly would like you to educate me with these facts and info.
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SoWal Expert
Rita, one thing which flygirl, I mean FLGirl, fails to mention when she talks about the old days around here, is the fact that there were people raising cattle, and it is cattle (this is no comment on the heard mentality of many of today's people) to which the Dog Fly is attracted. I'm not surprised that the Dog Flies were unbareable with cattle being raised here. I grew up on a farm with cattle, and we had plenty of Dog Flies and Gnats. Again, we didn't spray poisons on everything to kill the biting Dog Flies, and we all survived just fine, even when we worked outside. Heck, it took four hours to mow our yard on a riding mower, so I've had my share of bites. Bothersome, yes, but no need to kill all animals as small as the Dog Fly or smaller, just because the Dog Flies are bad.
How's that for more complete information?
How's that for more complete information?
Beach Fanatic
Rita, one thing which flygirl, I mean FLGirl, fails to mention when she talks about the old days around here, is the fact that there were people raising cattle, and it is cattle (this is no comment on the heard mentality of many of today's people) to which the Dog Fly is attracted. I'm not surprised that the Dog Flies were unbareable with cattle being raised here. I grew up on a farm with cattle, and we had plenty of Dog Flies and Gnats. Again, we didn't spray poisons on everything to kill the biting Dog Flies, and we all survived just fine, even when we worked outside. Heck, it took four hours to mow our yard on a riding mower, so I've had my share of bites. Bothersome, yes, but no need to kill all animals as small as the Dog Fly or smaller, just because the Dog Flies are bad.
How's that for more complete information?
Actually, GrumpyJoe, the cattle mentioned couldn't survive here because of the Mosquito's, flies, and other assorted pests. The cattle were gone before I was born. So, that doesn't hold water either. The orange groves were killed by frost and disease, frankly not much could survive except pine trees and sugar cane.
Beach Fanatic
Besides the Dog Fly Plane, another irritating issue to me is JD Miller road. The county worked forever it seemed on this road, and neglected to work with the SWMC and their ditches. As a result, the adjoining properties yards flood every time it rains. The county took out the ditch and replaced it with a "berm". This is still not remedied.
SoWal Expert
Proper drainage has been a continuing problem in many areas, not just JD Miller Rd, but that has nothing to do with Dog Flies.
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