Never eat meat again.

Animal Video

OM!! This is so horrible! I think everyone knows in their mind this goes on but to see it paints a disturbing picture.

Dad's a butcher...

I wish that we could get away from the "slaughterhouse" methods, but as long as the people who eat the meat are not the ones raising, killing, and processing it we have to rely on people who take care of the nasty part en masse... I don't have room on my 1.07 acres to raise a bull, kill it, and process the meat.

Dad's a butcher...

I wish that we could get away from the "slaughterhouse" methods, but as long as the people who eat the meat are not the ones raising, killing, and processing it we have to rely on people who take care of the nasty part en masse... I don't have room on my 1.07 acres to raise a bull, kill it, and process the meat.

I understand,no one has the ability to raise their own meat but the "slaughterhouse" methods
need to change. there is just no reason for such horrible brutal treatment of animals. This is part of the disconnect,,,,,not many people know about these barbaric processing methods.

OM!! This is so horrible! I think everyone knows in their mind this goes on but to see it paints a disturbing picture.

Exactly!,,,,,no one really knows, its part of the huge disconnect. as a consumer you are participating in this brutality if you don't object,,,,stop eating meat until this horrible treatment ends.

I wonder how anyone can eat a burger or steak without remembering those animal screaming in pain, and the terror and fear they felt at the end.
Seems I read something about how the terror an animal feels at the moment of its death transfered into the very meat tissues and organs that we eat and we are spiritually absorbing this.

Exactly!,,,,,no one really knows, its part of the huge disconnect. as a consumer you are participating in this brutality if you don't object,,,,stop eating meat until this horrible treatment ends.

I wonder how anyone can eat a burger or steak without remembering those animal screaming in pain, and the terror and fear they felt at the end.
Seems I read something about how the terror an animal feels at the moment of its death transfered into the very meat tissues and organs that we eat and we are spiritually absorbing this.

There are many studies and beliefs about this very thing. Let's not forget the anger that an animal has and the transfer of that to our bodies. There is so much Science is finding out about the transference of feelings into the body that is passed along in many ways.

I've found in my own life and the way I was brought up that it is easier to stick my head in a hole then to take responsibility for myself. We have many choices. I started by not eating meat one day a week and the more mindful I am about it the less I desire meat.

Just a thought. Kat

I've not eaten veal in over 20 years, ever since I discovered how veal is raised.
I no longer buy red meat unless it's grass fed organic, which due to its cost means we don't eat much red meat. Fresh Market sometimes has great deals. Yes, I do know how chickens are processed, but one step at a time. One night a week, we eat vegetarian. A good book to ease you into a healthier lifestyle is Quantum Wellness by Kathy Freston. I'm not sure I could go vegan, but semi-vegetarian is doable. And the added benefit is that this sort of diet is far better for you.

I am absolutely a carnivore, but that video was way over the top. I can say that I just took kosher meat off the list, although I have never eaten it either.

I have a brother that once worked in a regular meat packing plant in MN and he told me of their process which was meant to kill the cattle instantly before they ever began any processing.

It is unfortunate that whatever processing plant you can find, you will probably always find someone working that needs a lot of work on their conscience.

I have no interest in becoming a vegetarian, so please don't ruin civil conversation.

I am a hardcore believer in that whatever you need to eat must be dealt with as quickly and painlessly as possible. I am not going to deny that things must die that I might live. Science is likely to discover some day that carrots feel pain as well while their roots are being ripped out of the ground. What are vegetarians going to do then?
I'm just not going down that road. I am committed to doing things as humanely as I can. Hate me if you must but this coin has two sides.

I don't think this video demonstrates that you shouldn't eat meat, but that you should know where ALL of your food comes from and how it was processed.

Not every meat processor is like this, which is why it is good to educate yourself and vote with your pocketbook!

I don't think this video demonstrates that you shouldn't eat meat, but that you should know where ALL of your food comes from and how it was processed.

Not every meat processor is like this, which is why it is good to educate yourself and vote with your pocketbook!

Thank you!,,,,,my point exactly! and the other most important point is WHY DO THE MEAT PROCESSORS HAVE TO DO IT IN THIS MANNER! again if people would give more thought as to the where-what-and why's of the food they mindlessly pull off their local grocery store shelves it could make a difference.

Someone help me. I am not jewish and do not understand how they eat food, but it's all prepared different for some reason. I got the impression from the video that they were attempting to bleed out the cow or something.

That was tough to watch. If you are the squeemish type, don't go look. It's as bad as it sounds and then some.

I couldn't finish watching video... I'm glad I have a vegetable garden!!!!!

Someone help me. I am not jewish and do not understand how they eat food, but it's all prepared different for some reason. I got the impression from the video that they were attempting to bleed out the cow or something.

That was tough to watch. If you are the squeemish type, don't go look. It's as bad as it sounds and then some.

Bleeding it out is not a Kosher thing. Most animals are slaughtered by bleeding them out. It's actually the most humane way to handle it--when the animal bleeds to death it passes out painlessly. When Dad and Mom first got married, he worked in a poultry kill plant. They hang the chickens by the feet and slit their throats...you don't want an animal full of blood...

(I didn't watch the video, T.Cline--I've seen/heard about the process and don't need another lesson.)

Seems I read something about how the terror an animal feels at the moment of its death transfered into the very meat tissues and organs that we eat and we are spiritually absorbing this.

There are many studies and beliefs about this very thing. Let's not forget the anger that an animal has and the transfer of that to our bodies. There is so much Science is finding out about the transference of feelings into the body that is passed along in many ways.
Kat

I love you guys. I knew in my heart there was a reason I had cut back on red meat but couldn't remember what it was; other than the obvious. I'm an "earth centered sprititualist" and the transference of energy is big to me. Reading these comments just now was a big "DUH" moment for me.

For the most part, not for the sake of the animals, but for the sake of my own health and survival, I had become near vegetarian, eating the occassional white meats such as fish or chicken.

Lately I've tried to go all vegetarian and nearly killed myself when I bloated up like a nine month pregnant woman about to burst. Only a week and a half into it I thought I was going to die. A fellow vege-head laughed at me and told me I had gas. I've since discovered Gas-X and Beano!

I'm also down 16 lbs since January 1st! From 189 to 173 and shooting for 165 by January 1st 2009. My cholesterol and triglycerides have dropped from the ultra dangerous level to 'still to be concerned about but much better'. I've gone from a size 36 to a 34 and wish to be a 32 and that's fine.

I have no interest in becoming a vegetarian, so please don't ruin civil conversation.

I am a hardcore believer in that whatever you need to eat must be dealt with as quickly and painlessly as possible. I am not going to deny that things must die that I might live. Science is likely to discover some day that carrots feel pain as well while their roots are being ripped out of the ground. What are vegetarians going to do then?
I'm just not going down that road. I am committed to doing things as humanely as I can. Hate me if you must but this coin has two sides.

I've always said that a Vegan is a Vegetarian with issues.

Cabbage screams as you cut through it. I swear. Its what the voices in my head have told me to listen for.

I believe in the circle of life. Do you think when a lion or tiger tears into a zebra or antelope that the victim/food does not feel fear, agony and pain? Or do they slip into a zen mode and think "This is my lot in life, so that this creature may live another day", and pass peacefully into the next realm...

There's a couple of reasons for (this coming from an atheist) to pray before eating. Do not (just) thank (insert higher power of choice here) for the food you are about to eat, but thank the food that you are about to eat for giving up its life energy to sustain your own. It will help ease your conscience.

More importantly, it gives your a body a chance to catch a breather before you start wolfing down that food, which is ultimately better for your digestive system.

I did not/will not watch the video as I'm sure I already know what is it and do not need that upsetting energy in my brain/body at this time.

And like Scooty said, I "vote" with my wallet.

OK enuff preaching for today. Now to get back to what really matters in life.

The Phillies are now 5-0 over the Brewers in the 3rd inning.
Bucs will challenge the Broncos at 3:15 CST and the Sunday night game is my homeboys the STEELERS vs that team down the street, the Jags.

Sports is life. Now someone get me a beer and a hotdog.

Just kidding. I'm eating spinach and broc nuggets from MorningStar Farms, and collards from my own garden.;-)

I had a really tough time watching. I eat meat regularly- chicken and turkey daily and beef on the weekends. I am unlikely to discontinue this practice anytime soon but I just can't understand why pain and suffering need to be part of the equation in this day in age. It is senseless to me and it is wrong. Is there something practical that can be done?

This thread is making me hungry.

that video is repulsive. i literally feel sick.

I used to eat meat but ever since I saw the videos of the different slaughterhouse facilities I just cant,,,,tried to eat a little chicken last night,,,,and I swear,,,I could feel the animals pain!........it tasted TERRIBLE! ...I know I know, sounds a little crazy, huh?

I am gong to resurrect this older thread, I'd love to know if anybody has made anymore changes and hear your thoughts on this subject.

I am a supporter of Vegan Outreach and they have leaflets (that I have helped distribute) entitled "Even If You Eat Meat". The leaflets are designed to encourage people to not only think about where their meat comes from, but to realize that every time they DON'T eat meat they are making a statement and saving animals from being abused due to lesser demand. I think realistically speaking most people will not give up all animal products 100% of the time, and I don't think it is necessary unless one chooses to do so and then that's great too!

I was totally vegan for years - even went 100% raw vegan for a while - amazing journey. Now, I am vegan, mostly raw at home and often times when I am out. On our last trip to SoWal I ate fish and some dairy. Not something my body was used to. I wanted it so I ate some. No biggie. I prefer to eat the way I am physically and emotionally comfortable with (mostly raw vegan) on a regular basis and if I am in a social situation and really want some fish I will. At least with fish they are swimming up to the point where they are caught. But of course there are some fishing and shrimping methods that are used (nets) where soooooooooo many innocent other sea creatures are killed in the process. If we demand less meat, and fish, then animals can be raised and fished more humanely. Chickens and pigs have the most abuse. I will never eat them or beef again. I don't like the texture in my mouth and I have no need to eat them to be healthy.

The best book I ever read (cause I hear "Where do you get your protein?" all the time) is The China Study by Professor Emeritus, Dr T. Colin Campbell at Cornell University. Also, anything by John Robbins.

One more thing - I turned 50 last Halloween and I did my first triathlon at 49 having only been running and cycling a VERY short time. My energy level is amazing and I never have to worry about my weight - even though I come from a family with obesity issues and diabetes etc....

So I have a strong passion for this right? You bet! I love to see people becoming aware that what we eat matters to us and to our environment. In fact, there is a splendid article entitled "Vegetarianism Is The New Prius" that just puts one more spoke in the wheel for me.

Here it is - I often quote from it.

Kathy Freston: Vegetarian is the New Prius

Thanks for letting me share my thoughts on this. I'd love to hear what others say and I am by no means judgmental about others eating meat. I just like to see people become aware and perhaps that makes us think about different choices once in a while at least.

G

Food, Inc.

Question - If you buy organic meat from Publix - where does this come from? Still the same slaughterhouses? Still corn fed beef? Off to see if I can find it on Google.

I just started reading In Defense of Food by Michael Pollan & look forward to seeing his documentary if it ever comes to the panhandle:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2sgaO44_1c"]YouTube - Food, Inc. trailer[/ame]

thanks so much Gidget for adding your thoughts to this thread!
its not just about animal cruelty anymore....according to the article you posted

Animal agriculture accounts for most of the water consumed in this country, emits two-thirds of the world's acid-rain-causing ammonia, and it the world's largest source of water pollution--killing entire river and marine ecosystems, destroying coral reefs, and of course, making people sick. Try to imagine the prodigious volumes of manure churned out by modern American farms: 5 million tons a day, more than a hundred times that of the human population, and far more than our land can possibly absorb. The acres and acres of cesspools stretching over much of our countryside, polluting the air and contaminating our water, make the Exxon Valdez oil spill look minor in comparison. All of which we can fix surprisingly easily, just by putting down our chicken wings and reaching for a veggie burger.

you might be interested in a small group of friendly locals just now organizing in a new group I started called the Vegetarian Experiment. its about.... ....INFORMAL & FUN group to share and assist in the transitioning of preparing more MEATLESS meals,,,,it's a global ecologically sensible thing to do!
this info is on a FaceBook page where people can share the info. I would like to post something about it here on Sowal but not sure how to format it.

As a summer job when in college, hubby worked beef-kill at Oscar Mayer in Madison. The stories he tells makes one think twice about eating meat.

Exactly!,,,,,no one really knows, its part of the huge disconnect. as a consumer you are participating in this brutality if you don't object,,,,stop eating meat until this horrible treatment ends.

I wonder how anyone can eat a burger or steak without remembering those animal screaming in pain, and the terror and fear they felt at the end.
Seems I read something about how the terror an animal feels at the moment of its death transfered into the very meat tissues and organs that we eat and we are spiritually absorbing this.

Not just spiritually -- eating brutally raised and slaughtered meat means ingesting the stress/fear hormones as well.

thanks so much Gidget for adding your thoughts to this thread!
its not just about animal cruelty anymore....according to the article you posted

Animal agriculture accounts for most of the water consumed in this country, emits two-thirds of the world's acid-rain-causing ammonia, and it the world's largest source of water pollution--killing entire river and marine ecosystems, destroying coral reefs, and of course, making people sick. Try to imagine the prodigious volumes of manure churned out by modern American farms: 5 million tons a day, more than a hundred times that of the human population, and far more than our land can possibly absorb. The acres and acres of cesspools stretching over much of our countryside, polluting the air and contaminating our water, make the Exxon Valdez oil spill look minor in comparison. All of which we can fix surprisingly easily, just by putting down our chicken wings and reaching for a veggie burger.

you might be interested in a small group of friendly locals just now organizing in a new group I started called the Vegetarian Experiment. its about.... ....INFORMAL & FUN group to share and assist in the transitioning of preparing more MEATLESS meals,,,,it's a global ecologically sensible thing to do!
this info is on a FaceBook page where people can share the info. I would like to post something about it here on Sowal but not sure how to format it.

T.Cline, while I applaud your concerns about the slaughter process, I do have a question about how we fix the pollution aspect by all of a sudden having the world become vegetarian? What happens with all of the animals that are associated with the pollution? They won't magically disappear? Should we slaughter them? And just how? What about all of the carcasses, what do we do with them? Not trying to be synical, but I've never heard anyone answer these questions.

To the others who are now becoming vegan because of the inhumane treatment of the animals. Several of you are in the restaurant business either by owning/operating or employment. So are you going to cease service of meat/fish ? Are you going to quit supporting/working at the restaurants that continue to serve meat/fish that possibly were inhumanely slaughtered?

Are you going to quit wearing products made of leather? Do you realize that they slaughter those animals in similar manners.

Please understand that I fully support humane means of killing animals and absolutely despise torture. But, if you are going to be extreme in your beliefs, then you should do it fully and not just to make your conscience feel better.

I seriously doubt that the world will quit eating meat. Stating that, there are several ligitimate groups that are working very hard in trying to change slaughter processes and animal agriculture waste pollution. I would encourage all to support them in their cause.