After being personally bashed on SoWal for my political beliefs, I took a break, but I can no longer "let it go." When Barack Obama was elected, although I did not vote for him, I was willing to give him a chance. However, less than a week has passed since the election and there are disturbing signals from Obama and his team that this is going to be an interesting 4 years.
Below is a link where a member of Obama's team talks about the fact that he will be "ready to rule on day one." Add that to the fact that there is talk about a national holiday to honor him, and that he is planning to keep is campaign database handy (so he know who supported him ;-) ;-) so he can dole out pay-backs) and he is starting to sound more and more like a dictator.
I seriously thought that American Presidents GOVERNED, not ruled like a king. Silly me for misinterpreting the constitution--but that is all down the toilet anyway.
I've had my say and now let the personal bashing begin . . .
Don't forget the link:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner...0/obama-spokesman-says-obama-ready-rule-day-1
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Beach Fanatic
It is a myth that Bush lowered taxes. The federal government in 2007 collected $1 trillion more in revenues than it did in 2000. The rich paid more, not less.
Pls disprove the "myth". Just because tax revenues went up does not mean that taxes weren't cut. Um, maybe they earned more which required them to pay more in taxes despite the tax cuts...
Beach Fanatic
Tax rates were cut but revenues over the seven years since 2000 have increased.
Beach Fanatic
Tax rates were cut but revenues over the seven years since 2000 have increased.
Yes. Agreed. But how does this equate to your statement that GW cutting taxes is a myth? He did cut taxes.
Beach Fanatic
Yes. Agreed. But how does this equate to your statement that GW cutting taxes is a myth? He did cut taxes.
He cut tax rates. Tax "revenue" to the federal government increased over GWB's seven years. Of course, the operative problem is that the federal government spent too much money over those seven years. Deficits are always the result of too much spending. You cannot raise enough money to cover deficits because the Congress and the President can always find ways to spend it. I fear we are stuck in a permanent deficit/debt cycle. I don't see how it can ever be balanced again. Our one opportunity is to get the economy running on all eight cylinders. Excuse me, in this day and time, four cylinders.
Nothing increases tax revenue to the federal government like a whirling economy.
Beach Fanatic
He cut tax rates. Tax "revenue" to the federal government increased over GWB's seven years. Of course, the operative problem is that the federal government spent too much money over those seven years. Deficits are always the result of too much spending. You cannot raise enough money to cover deficits because the Congress and the President can always find ways to spend it. I fear we are stuck in a permanent deficit/debt cycle. I don't see how it can ever be balanced again. Our one opportunity is to get the economy running on all eight cylinders. Excuse me, in this day and time, four cylinders.
I certainly agree with the latter part of your argument - let's get this friggin economy rolling again - no more unnecessary wars and certainly no more bail outs of irresponsible companies....
SoWal Insider
I certainly agree with the latter part of your argument - let's get this friggin economy rolling again - no more unnecessary wars and certainly no more bail outs of irresponsible companies....
Actually a good war might be just what the doctor ordered.
Banned
Actually a good war might be just what the doctor ordered.
Right, it's worked so well these last seven years. Which doctor? Jekyl, Strangelove or Phibes?
Beach Fanatic
Actually a good war might be just what the doctor ordered.
I find this comment to be insensitive. Apparently you have never served in a war; had a loved one serve, or especially lost a loved one to war...war is never the answer to anything, and to trivalize it so shows a complete lack of understanding of what others have endured and sacrificed.
Beach Fanatic
Actually a good war might be just what the doctor ordered.
SoWal Insider
Y'all need to lighten up!
SoWal Insider
I don't know how I stumbled upon this thread, but it's interesting to say the least. I wonder if the original sentiment is still there?
SoWal Expert
My sentiments are the same.
If anything I am even more frustrated about the continuing of all the partisan SHEET post-election, especially not considering ideas or proposals because of the political affiliation of the person who proposed them.
Would have been nice if the Great Recession could have brought about the bi-partisan cooperation I so hoped for after the election. Really wanted McCain to become the leader of his party (I really respect him and his ideas even if I didn't vote for him) and help Obama bring about the major reforms and cooperation we sadly need.
If anything I am even more frustrated about the continuing of all the partisan SHEET post-election, especially not considering ideas or proposals because of the political affiliation of the person who proposed them.
Would have been nice if the Great Recession could have brought about the bi-partisan cooperation I so hoped for after the election. Really wanted McCain to become the leader of his party (I really respect him and his ideas even if I didn't vote for him) and help Obama bring about the major reforms and cooperation we sadly need.
SoWal Guide
I would say we're all past it. lots of good energy around here lately - hopefully most of us are enjoying the present, hopeful about the future, and not dwelling on the past. no, we haven't changed our individual politics or positions even though we may have learned more about others positions. and we definitely learned more about how to listen and respond in a productive way. in the end, we are all still just people who can engage in a debate as well as share ideas, and mostly - laugh.
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