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Obama: Police "Acted Stupidly" in Prof Arrest

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GeoBeach Fanatic
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Anyone been following the story about the Harvard Professor who was arrested?

Short of it is that he lives in a prominent neighborhood in Cambridge, Mass and had just returned home from a trip from China. The front door was jammed so he went through the backdoor and then with the help of his driver was able to force the stuck front door open. Apparently, a neighbor saw all of this activity and informed the police about a possible break in.

Cops came and asked the professor for his id and to come outside for questioning. Allegedly, the prof didn't want to comply and asked the officer for his id and badge number. The prof eventually came outside and presented the id but then accused the officer of racism (the prof is African American). He felt that he was guilty of being "black in America" and that the officer had no business asking him for his id in his own house when he had done nothing wrong. Apparently, the conversation got out of hand and the cop arrested the professor for disorderly conduct. Since then the charges have been dropped and the mayor of Cambridge apologized.

Interestingly enough, the POTUS weigh in on it today.


Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' - CNN.com

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RudyjohnSoWal Insider
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I wondered when someone would start a thread on this. ;-) But it's all very interesting.

I will admit that when I saw the headlines where Obama said the police acted stupidly, it made me flinch.
efarriorBeach Comber
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does this surprise anyone coming from this clown??? not me...

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LindaBeach Fanatic
#4
Obama stated last night that he didn't have all the facts. To make a statement that the police "acted stupidly" without having all the facts is what I find stupid.
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LynnieSoWal Insider
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Anyone been following the story about the Harvard Professor who was arrested?

Short of it is that he lives in a prominent neighborhood in Cambridge, Mass and had just returned home from a trip from China. The front door was jammed so he went through the backdoor and then with the help of his driver was able to force the stuck front door open. Apparently, a neighbor saw all of this activity and informed the police about a possible break in.

Cops came and asked the professor for his id and to come outside for questioning. Allegedly, the prof didn't want to comply and asked the officer for his id and badge number. The prof eventually came outside and presented the id but then accused the officer of racism (the prof is African American). He felt that he was guilty of being "black in America" and that the officer had no business asking him for his id in his own house when he had done nothing wrong. Apparently, the conversation got out of hand and the cop arrested the professor for disorderly conduct. Since then the charges have been dropped and the mayor of Cambridge apologized.

Interestingly enough, the POTUS weigh in on it today.


Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' - CNN.com


I did hear a little bit of a different rendition (yesterday evening, I think I had ABC news on the boob tube) as to why the professor was arrested. But, it's over now.
kkddbbBanned
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Has any other president smeared more americans than obama-no! He apologizes to the world about america's misgivings forgetting about all the good this nation has done for the world. And when he comes home he smears the american people to their face. Quit the leader. He's a liberal activist, turned liberal attorney turned liberal politician. His actions now shouldnt surprise anyone other than the zombies that still think the man walks on water because olby told them so.
rancidBeach Fanatic
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Has any other president smeared more americans than obama-no! He apologizes to the world about america's misgivings forgetting about all the good this nation has done for the world. And when he comes home he smears the american people to their face. Quit the leader. He's a liberal activist, turned liberal attorney turned liberal politician. His actions now shouldnt surprise anyone other than the zombies that still think the man walks on water because olby told them so.

DUDE, go have a drink, take a deep breath, and relax. You are going to make your head explode with that kind of anger. And it is only 10:30 in the morning.
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GeoBeach FanaticAuthor
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Has any other president smeared more americans than obama-no! He apologizes to the world about america's misgivings forgetting about all the good this nation has done for the world. And when he comes home he smears the american people to their face. Quit the leader. He's a liberal activist, turned liberal attorney turned liberal politician. His actions now shouldnt surprise anyone other than the zombies that still think the man walks on water because olby told them so.

Being a liberal activist, attorney, politician (or anything else) isn't necessarily bad. But saying the police acted stupidly without having all the facts is...

Many, if not most, of Obama supporters don't approve of everything he says or does. Many, if not most, aren't "zombies"...

:idontno:
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GeoBeach FanaticAuthor
#9
I did hear a little bit of a different rendition (yesterday evening, I think I had ABC news on the boob tube) as to why the professor was arrested. But, it's over now.

What was the different rendition? Thx...
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TooFarTampaSoWal Insider
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I wondered when someone would start a thread on this. ;-) But it's all very interesting.

I will admit that when I saw the headlines where Obama said the police acted stupidly, it made me flinch.

I agree, it made me flinch too ... though he did couch it by saying that he was probably biased because Gates is a friend.

If the Cambridge police did not recognize Gates' name once he produced an ID, I am surprised. He is pretty famous even by Harvard standards.
kkddbbBanned
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dude, go have a drink, take a deep breath, and relax. You are going to make your head explode with that kind of anger. And it is only 10:30 in the morning.


theres a difference between anger and passion.... Anger isnt something i have too much of. How could i living in paradise and taking full advantage of it everyday? Not possible
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Carol GBeach Fanatic
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Liberal liberal liberal liberal liberal! How dare that liberal dare to be liberal and liberate America into a more liberal status!

I dunno, I think if I had just gotten off a 14 hour flight, plus all the driving to and fro, and couldn't get into my house because the #@$% door got stuck, and all I wanted was a cool drink and warm bed, and finally got in MY house, only to be stopped by a police officer, I would be testy. I would probably vocalize my displeasure, as this man did, and still dig out my identification, as this man did. If that officer then arrested me, on my front lawn, for being annoyed and vocalizing my annoyance, ON MY FRONT LAWN, it would be stupid. Add the race issue into it, and it is monumentally stupid. The officer should have thanked him, apologized for the misunderstanding, and left. I'm glad Obama has the cajones to say it like it is.

And for the uninformed, here are some of Obama's praises for America. Funny how some think the guy would actually spend so much time and effort working to be elected President of a country he apparently hates.

[SIZE=-1]In reaffirming the greatness of our nation we understand that greatness is never a given. It must be earned. Our journey has never been one of short-cuts or settling for less. It has not been the path for the faint-hearted, for those that prefer leisure over work, or seek only the pleasures of riches and fame. Rather, it has been the risk-takers, the doers, the makers of things -- some celebrated, but more often men and women obscure in their labor -- who have carried us up the long rugged path towards prosperity and freedom.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=-1]BARACK OBAMA, Inaugural Address, Jan. 20. 2009[/SIZE]


[SIZE=-1]The true test of the American ideal is whether we?re able to recognize our failings and then rise together to meet the challenges of our time. Whether we allow ourselves to be shaped by events and history, or whether we act to shape them. Whether chance of birth or circumstance decides life?s big winners and losers, or whether we build a community where, at the very least, everyone has a chance to work hard, get ahead, and reach their dreams.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=-1]BARACK OBAMA, speech, Jun. 4, 2005[/SIZE]


[SIZE=-1]Hope is what led a band of colonists to rise up against an empire; what led the greatest of generations to free a continent and heal a nation; what led young women and young men to sit at lunch counters and brave fire hoses and march through Selma and Montgomery for freedom's cause. Hope is what led me here today--with a father from Kenya, a mother from Kansas; and a story that could only happen in the United States of America. Hope is the bedrock of this nation; the belief that our destiny will not be written for us, but by us; by all those men and women who are not content to settle for the world as it is; who have courage to remake the world as it should be.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=-1]BARACK OBAMA, speech, Jan. 3, 2008[/SIZE]


[SIZE=-1]America is a land of big dreamers and big hopes. It is this hope that has sustained us through revolution and civil war, depression and world war, a struggle for civil and social rights and the brink of nuclear crisis. And it is because our dreamers dreamed that we have emerged from each challenge more united, more prosperous, and more admired than before.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=-1]BARACK OBAMA, speech, Jun. 4, 2005[/SIZE]


[SIZE=-1]I have studied the Constitution as a student; I have taught it as a teacher; I have been bound by it as a lawyer and legislator. I took an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution as Commander-in-Chief, and as a citizen, I know that we must never ? ever ? turn our back on its enduring principles for expedience sake. I make this claim not simply as a matter of idealism. We uphold our most cherished values not only because doing so is right, but because it strengthens our country and keeps us safe. Time and again, our values have been our best national security asset ? in war and peace; in times of ease and in eras of upheaval. Fidelity to our values is the reason why the United States of America grew from a small string of colonies under the writ of an empire to the strongest nation in the world. It is the reason why enemy soldiers have surrendered to us in battle, knowing they?d receive better treatment from America?s armed forces than from their own government. It is the reason why America has benefited from strong alliances that amplified our power, and drawn a sharp and moral contrast with our adversaries. It is the reason why we?ve been able to overpower the iron fist of fascism, outlast the iron curtain of communism, and enlist free nations and free people everywhere in common cause and common effort. From Europe to the Pacific, we have been a nation that has shut down torture chambers and replaced tyranny with the rule of law. That is who we are. And where terrorists offer only the injustice of disorder and destruction, America must demonstrate that our values and institutions are more resilient than a hateful ideology.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=-1]BARACK OBAMA, speech, May 21, 2009[/SIZE]


[SIZE=-1]Clearly, he's just another LIBERAL who hates Americans and America. :roll:[/SIZE]​
Lynnie avatar
LynnieSoWal Insider
#13
What was the different rendition? Thx...

The news story I heard was that the police knocked, the prof answered the door and the police proceeded to answer the call as it was called in......a suspected burglary. This was explained and the prof wouldn't provide ID at the first request. Nor would he cooperate with stepping outside, etc.

The second time he was questioned, the prof became defensive and accused the popo of being racists......

So, maybe the truth lies somewhere in the middle.....who knows.

However! Should the police show up at my house for a possible burglary in progress and it was a mistake - myself who broke into my own home, I would produce ID as well as the Deed to my house. My tax dollars pay the police to protect me. I would cooperate.

My house is old, my doors are old. In humid weather, they swell and one door I can barely open in August. So, I go to another door as well.

Does anyone find it interesting that the neighbors who called the police didn't recognize the prof.? The prof. tried to enter the front door first, then went around to the back. I am getting two new neighbors.......what if they are doing a good deed by calling the police simply because they don't recognize me?

The prof. expended a lot of energy by NOT cooperating with the police......this is just my opinion, however. And, a waste of news/air time, I thinks. :idontno:
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Lake View TooSoWal Insider
#14
It's funny how any dialogue with kkddbb reminds me of that old axiom "It's a waste of time to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent."
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Lake View TooSoWal Insider
#15
By the way, I think both of these guys acted rather stupidly. The professor probably had a better excuse. I doubt most beat cops would really have any knowledge of who a prominent professor was or what he looked like.There had been multiple break-ins in that neighborhood. There was an over-reaction by both of them and a really big over-reaction by the media.
GoodWitch58Beach Fanatic
#16
I wonder why, when the ID was presented, the cop didn't radio dispatch and ask someone to verify the owner of the property?

They seem to have no problem doing that when they pull someone over for speeding...I am sure that verifying the professor's identify and ownership/residency would have been just as easy. Obviously, it's not as though the"short black,58y/oprofessor who walkswith a cane" was a threat to the cop with a gun...since all they could charge him with was disorderly conduct (I always thought that was cop-talk for being drunk???)

:idontno:

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efarriorBeach Comber
#17
no, that is disorderly intoxication...there is a difference...
GoodWitch58Beach Fanatic
#18
thanks.

Any thoughts about why not verify the ownership of the house?
efarriorBeach Comber
#19
I imagine he couldnt over the professor screaming... after all he did draw a crowd. I understand that the prof. was mad about the situation, but had he acted like an adult and given him the id, and not showed his a**, im sure things would have gone much smoother... but, he knew what he was doing, so he cried racism and told the cop that he didnt know who he was messin with, and he hadnt heard the last of this.... the cop was doing his job, and handled it pretty well.... the arrest reports back it up... check them out....
Lynnie avatar
LynnieSoWal Insider
#20
thanks.

Any thoughts about why not verify the ownership of the house?

I think that's a great idea, but extra work for police, dispatch, etc. Running a check on license is protocol, I presume? :idontno:

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