OMG! I really earn more than $250K?.....

Tip of the iceberg, friend. Better hold on tight!

can you feel the hot air yet?

He also said the health care bill wouldn't include taxpayer funded abortion or include illegals, but thar she blows!

Jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. ~Costanza

He also said the health care bill wouldn't include taxpayer funded abortion or include illegals, but thar she blows!

Jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. ~Costanza

Both of those items are excluded.

Both of those items are excluded.

A clarification. They may be excluded from the Senate bill but are not from the House bill, both of which have to be finalized in conference committee. The truth of the matter is no one knows what is in the bill yet as the final version to be presented to the President has not been written and voted on by the House and Senate.

Back to the subject at hand. I wonder if my taxes increased, too. I have not received any recent notification from DOD and I, as happy2Bme, certainly make a lot less than 250K per year.

it's all just smoke and mirrors anyway.......oh, sorry, I mean "transparent". My bad.

Wake Up and smell the Bill

Both of those items are excluded.

And You belief this to be true...No one other than old Harry knows what is in that Bill that Dems voted for without reading...I think that all of you OBAMA supporters are eventually going to wake up and figure out you guys have been duped!!!!!!!

And You belief this to be true...No one other than old Harry knows what is in that Bill that Dems voted for without reading...I think that all of you OBAMA supporters are eventually going to wake up and figure out you guys have been duped!!!!!!!

Not necessarily. Hypothetically speaking, maybe some Obama supporters are in favor of taxpayer funded abortions and health care for illegals. No duping in that case. Just saying.

I can't speak for everyone, but I consider an abortion to be a medical procedure - and thus something to be deemed necessary by a doctor and their patient, not "the taxpayers" and covered by insurance.

Also don't have a problem with providing emergency care to anyone who needs it - seeing as how that already happens and I am already subsidizing it, I don't find it to be a major source of hysteria.

And You belief this to be true...No one other than old Harry knows what is in that Bill that Dems voted for without reading...I think that all of you OBAMA supporters are eventually going to wake up and figure out you guys have been duped!!!!!!!

Yep, Harry has been hiding that bill from you and everyone else. Luckily I know the secret combination to the Liberal Law Vault.

/sarcasm off/

....well, I guess that I MUST, since $9.30 more of my USAF retirement check was deducted. My pay stub details "due to recent legislation your federal withholding tax was increased". As I recall, my president told me that only those earning $250K or more per year would see tax increases......I wonder what happened?. I know this: if I was making $250K a year, then I'd be having a LOT more fun!......:shock:

Federal tax rates have actually NOT increased for anyone (yet). So is this a case of no COLA increase this year plus increased cost of health care benefits=smaller check? This has happened to many Social Security recipients as well. If you look at it piece by piece, you can see how it happened, and that it's not actually a tax increase.

Liberal Law Vault...????

Yep, Harry has been hiding that bill from you and everyone else. Luckily I know the secret combination to the Liberal Law Vault.

/sarcasm off/

Perhaps you might have that secret combination but I don't think so and if you would admit your true deep down feelings those things that you know to be true...I know you and others who voted for that Change, that Hope, that transparency, that Cspan coverage, those line by line bill changes, the no more special interest fundings are really disappointed in your man Obama. He didn't tell the truth, he said what he thought he needed to say to get elected. He never did intend to be that man he "played" in the election.

....well, I guess that I MUST, since $9.30 more of my USAF retirement check was deducted. My pay stub details "due to recent legislation your federal withholding tax was increased". As I recall, my president told me that only those earning $250K or more per year would see tax increases......I wonder what happened?. I know this: if I was making $250K a year, then I'd be having a LOT more fun!......:shock:

From what I understand, Congress has let 50 tax breaks expire. Most will likely be reinstated, but based on your withholding, since the legislation expired for the year, the USAF may be basing withholding on current expired legislation. You'll probably get it back eventually when you file your return in April.

Congress Lets 50 Tax Breaks Expire - Forbes.com

Not necessarily. Hypothetically speaking, maybe some Obama supporters are in favor of taxpayer funded abortions and health care for illegals. No duping in that case. Just saying.

Hypothetically speaking, if both issues are included in the final signed bill, will Joe Wilson still be a racist?

Federal tax rates have actually NOT increased for anyone (yet). So is this a case of no COLA increase this year plus increased cost of health care benefits=smaller check? This has happened to many Social Security recipients as well. If you look at it piece by piece, you can see how it happened, and that it's not actually a tax increase.

Nope...it was a change to my income tax withholding only.....no add or decrease to COLA or allotments. And the reason quoted that I included is verbatim from my Leave and Earnings Statement....hence, the quotation marks.

Hypothetically speaking, if both issues are included in the final signed bill, will Joe Wilson still be a racist?

Yes

Federal tax rates have actually NOT increased for anyone (yet). So is this a case of no COLA increase this year plus increased cost of health care benefits=smaller check? This has happened to many Social Security recipients as well. If you look at it piece by piece, you can see how it happened, and that it's not actually a tax increase.

Naw, its just a decrease in income.

Nope...it was a change to my income tax withholding only.....no add or decrease to COLA or allotments. And the reason quoted that I included is verbatim from my Leave and Earnings Statement....hence, the quotation marks.

I just checked my RAS and found you are absolutely right. My FITW increased $16.50 so I have a net decrease in income of $l88.00 a year.
In my case, its not the money, it is definitely the principle of the thing. So much for no tax increase for those making less than 250K. And my military retired pay is the first thing hit? "You Lie" is quite appropriate.

Question - is it something this administration specifically changed/did or is it just due to tax breaks scheduled to end actually ending as stated in the original legislation?

Question - is it something this administration specifically changed/did or is it just due to tax breaks scheduled to end actually ending as stated in the original legislation?

No, but sound bites are so much easier to follow than logic.

Hypothetically speaking, if both issues are included in the final signed bill, will Joe Wilson still be a racist?

racist and someone who drags his secessionist state another notch lower. perhaps he can become a lobbyist with the current governor one day.

George Bush Sr. totally called out Wilson in a recent Parade cover story as being everything that is wrong w/ modern politics.

May I suggest you look around a little. Joe Wilson isn't the only one of his kind in the House and Senate. Witness Alan Grayson (D) from our own wonderful state. There are enough ignorant Congressional leaders on both sides to more than go around. If the American electorate was smart, they would vote them all out and start over but, unfortunately, that won't happen.

May I suggest you look around a little. Joe Wilson isn't the only one of his kind in the House and Senate. Witness Alan Grayson (D) from our own wonderful state. There are enough ignorant Congressional leaders on both sides to more than go around. If the American electorate was smart, they would vote them all out and start over but, unfortunately, that won't happen.

ignorant congressional leader?