Here you go guys.
Thanks for your cooperation in moving your opinions of the industry during this tragic event to this thread...
You're the best!
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Thought police....another cutesy statement from you.
My initial request was asking you and bob to start a new thread for your political expressions of the industry. The thread was initially about the explosion and potential loss of life and wishes of thoughts/prayers for the families. Then you and Bob decided to make it a stance of attack on the industry and their actions that damage the environment.
I have no issue with your stance and opinion and even stated so in the thread. I was just asking you to please start a new thread, but instead you have since directly attack me with name calling. I just consider the source and so be it.
I do find it interesting that you and Bob have been very vocal about the tragedy to the environment, yet neither of you have expressed any comments of condolence to the men and their families who have suffered dearly.
Interesting, but not surprising....
In respect to the others, I am done with this thread and with your "original" tags....
Enjoy yourself....
That's a lie, it was not a prayers go out to the dead thread. Get over yourself. (your self-serving self that is)
SoWal Insider
Whenever a polarizing politician (or in this case an issue) gets sick or dies, there is always someone who comes out and takes personal shots before funeral plans have been devised. Here is some interesting reading from when Ted Kennedy died. Kudos to Arkiehawg for being an all around good guy.
http://www.sowal.com/bb/politics-current-events/39479-mass-sen-edward-m-kennedy-dies-age-77-a.html
I had no idea the Kennedy thread continued on as it did~~~~~
Arkie is a good guy! Guy?
Banned
i like this. i like that arki is trying to make people behave (someone's gotta try). i like that it doesn't exactly work. i like that everyone has a different take on what is appropriate. and I simply adore Ms Quitty!!!!!!!!!
Aww! Thanks Toostie!
You know I don't know why Arkiehog started this thread. There's another one over here just like it. http://www.sowal.com/bb/politics-current-events/46903-oll-rig-explosion-gulf.html#post661533
SoWal Guide
yep, arkie is a good guy. you all are in my book.
Beach Lover
Really??? That has to be the most morally and intellectually bankrupt statement I've ever heard. How can you compare picketers expressing hatred towards the dead in the presence of their families with somebody pointing out the environmental impact of a tragic event. This is a serious issue that affects all of us. You need to beg, borrow, buy or steal a a clue and a grip, but if your statement is any indication of your typical thought processes, I'm sure it won't do you a bit of good.
Do you drive a car? Do you heat your home? Do you use electricity? Anything in your home made of plastic? Ever use fertilizer - or has any of the food you eat ever been enhanced with fertilizer? Got a kid - ever used vaseline or Vicks?
Sure you have! Guess what, all are derived from oil and gas. Want rigs in the Gulf of Mexico? Me neither, but you know what - Mother Nature put oil and gas in the ground where she wanted it, not a choice for you and I.
Gulf of Mexico, Wyoming, Colorado, Pennsylvania - none of the folks in these places seem to want oil and gas drilling. OK, then let's just pay the Middle East for our oil and gas. Ask the families of our brave soldiers how that is working out...
Coal? Largest carbon producer of any of our current energy sources. Nuclear? You probably don't want that in SoWal either, rightr? Wind? Truly not feasible on a large scale. Solar? Same thing...
Bottom line. If you want relatively cheap and clean oil and gas as the energy source for a bridge fuel to the next century when technology will finally (I hope) render fusion and hydrogen as the ultimate fuel source, we all have to make some sacrifices on where it is produced.
Banned
Do you drive a car? Do you heat your home? Do you use electricity? Anything in your home made of plastic? Ever use fertilizer - or has any of the food you eat ever been enhanced with fertilizer? Got a kid - ever used vaseline or Vicks?
Sure you have! Guess what, all are derived from oil and gas. Want rigs in the Gulf of Mexico? Me neither, but you know what - Mother Nature put oil and gas in the ground where she wanted it, not a choice for you and I.
Gulf of Mexico, Wyoming, Colorado, Pennsylvania - none of the folks in these places seem to want oil and gas drilling. OK, then let's just pay the Middle East for our oil and gas. Ask the families of our brave soldiers how that is working out...
Coal? Largest carbon producer of any of our current energy sources. Nuclear? You probably don't want that in SoWal either, rightr? Wind? Truly not feasible on a large scale. Solar? Same thing...
Bottom line. If you want relatively cheap and clean oil and gas as the energy source for a bridge fuel to the next century when technology will finally (I hope) render fusion and hydrogen as the ultimate fuel source, we all have to make some sacrifices on where it is produced.
Oil industry shill?? Bottom line is NIMBY as I've said before.
SoWal Expert
If we would all reduce our consumption just a little bit - fewer plastic water bottles, less driving, better mileage, recycling, tweaking the thermostat a degree or two, we would not need to keep finding more sources of oil and we could wean ourselves off of oil.
There are a lot of alternatives to oil that exist and more are being developed as we speak. Not to mention that many individuals and companies are working to use less fossil fuels and less plastic.
Small things like bringing your own bags to the grocery, drinking out of a glass or a reusable water bottle, easing off the accelerator, eating locally produced food or growing your own (20% of the fuel we use in this country is moving food around), and not blasting the AC are enough to drastically cut our oil consumption - if EVERYONE does it!
There are a lot of alternatives to oil that exist and more are being developed as we speak. Not to mention that many individuals and companies are working to use less fossil fuels and less plastic.
Small things like bringing your own bags to the grocery, drinking out of a glass or a reusable water bottle, easing off the accelerator, eating locally produced food or growing your own (20% of the fuel we use in this country is moving food around), and not blasting the AC are enough to drastically cut our oil consumption - if EVERYONE does it!
Beach Fanatic
April 27, 2010
Rising Oil Price Benefits BP Earnings
By JULIA WERDIGIER
LONDON — BP, the British oil company, said Tuesday that its profit more than doubled in the first quarter, helped by higher oil prices.
Profit rose to $6.08 billion from $2.56 billion in the first quarter of last year. The results beat some analyst expectation, setting the tone for other large oil companies, including Exxon Mobil and Chevron, that are reporting later this week.
BP benefited from a crude oil price that almost doubled in the first quarter as the global economy slowly recovers from recession. Oil prices averaged about $78 a barrel at the beginning of this year, up from about $40 a barrel last year.
The earnings announcement comes as BP attempts to stem an oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico that resulted from an explosion at a rig off the coast of Louisiana earlier this month. Eleven workers are missing and presumed dead.
Tony Hayward, the chief executive, had focused on improving BP’s safety record since a fatal explosion at a Texas refinery in 2005 tarnished its reputation. Mr. Hayward has flown to the area to supervise the recovery efforts even though the accident is unlikely to hurt BP’s production because the deposit at the rig was relatively small.
Mr. Hayward said earlier he plans to increase output by as much as 2 percent a year over the next five years. BP announced in September the discovery of a giant oil field several miles under the Gulf of Mexico. The company estimated it could take three or more years to begin extracting oil because it is so deep and only a relatively high oil price would make the exploration profitable.(wonder where that is!)
Oil prices recovered again in the past year after falling from a record of $147 in 2007. The current oil price of about $80 a barrel has made some exploration projects viable again for oil companies, which had focused on expanding natural gas production in the meantime, some analysts said. Gas prices climbed alongside those for oil but not as fast.
Uncertainty about the future of supply of oil as demand rises has continued to push up the price. Governments of some exporting countries have limited access for foreign oil companies to reserves, while the economic recovery in much of the world has increased demand.
Royal Dutch Shell is scheduled to release its first-quarter figures on Wednesday followed by ExxonMobil on Thursday and Chevron and Total on Friday.
Rising Oil Price Benefits BP Earnings
By JULIA WERDIGIER
LONDON — BP, the British oil company, said Tuesday that its profit more than doubled in the first quarter, helped by higher oil prices.
Profit rose to $6.08 billion from $2.56 billion in the first quarter of last year. The results beat some analyst expectation, setting the tone for other large oil companies, including Exxon Mobil and Chevron, that are reporting later this week.
BP benefited from a crude oil price that almost doubled in the first quarter as the global economy slowly recovers from recession. Oil prices averaged about $78 a barrel at the beginning of this year, up from about $40 a barrel last year.
The earnings announcement comes as BP attempts to stem an oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico that resulted from an explosion at a rig off the coast of Louisiana earlier this month. Eleven workers are missing and presumed dead.
Tony Hayward, the chief executive, had focused on improving BP’s safety record since a fatal explosion at a Texas refinery in 2005 tarnished its reputation. Mr. Hayward has flown to the area to supervise the recovery efforts even though the accident is unlikely to hurt BP’s production because the deposit at the rig was relatively small.
Mr. Hayward said earlier he plans to increase output by as much as 2 percent a year over the next five years. BP announced in September the discovery of a giant oil field several miles under the Gulf of Mexico. The company estimated it could take three or more years to begin extracting oil because it is so deep and only a relatively high oil price would make the exploration profitable.(wonder where that is!)
Oil prices recovered again in the past year after falling from a record of $147 in 2007. The current oil price of about $80 a barrel has made some exploration projects viable again for oil companies, which had focused on expanding natural gas production in the meantime, some analysts said. Gas prices climbed alongside those for oil but not as fast.
Uncertainty about the future of supply of oil as demand rises has continued to push up the price. Governments of some exporting countries have limited access for foreign oil companies to reserves, while the economic recovery in much of the world has increased demand.
Royal Dutch Shell is scheduled to release its first-quarter figures on Wednesday followed by ExxonMobil on Thursday and Chevron and Total on Friday.
Beach Fanatic
Do you drive a car? Do you heat your home? Do you use electricity? Anything in your home made of plastic? Ever use fertilizer - or has any of the food you eat ever been enhanced with fertilizer? Got a kid - ever used vaseline or Vicks?
Sure you have! Guess what, all are derived from oil and gas. Want rigs in the Gulf of Mexico? Me neither, but you know what - Mother Nature put oil and gas in the ground where she wanted it, not a choice for you and I.
Gulf of Mexico, Wyoming, Colorado, Pennsylvania - none of the folks in these places seem to want oil and gas drilling. OK, then let's just pay the Middle East for our oil and gas. Ask the families of our brave soldiers how that is working out...
Coal? Largest carbon producer of any of our current energy sources. Nuclear? You probably don't want that in SoWal either, rightr? Wind? Truly not feasible on a large scale. Solar? Same thing...
Bottom line. If you want relatively cheap and clean oil and gas as the energy source for a bridge fuel to the next century when technology will finally (I hope) render fusion and hydrogen as the ultimate fuel source, we all have to make some sacrifices on where it is produced.
Do you drive a car? (the question here is what cars are we driving?) Do you heat your home? (the question here is HOW do you heat your home?) Do you use electricity?(the question here is what are you doing to conserve energy in your home and office and stores and businesses?) Anything in your home made of plastic?(the question here is do you recycle plastic? Do you consider buying things with less packaging? Do you bring your bags with you shopping or refuse a bag?) Ever use fertilizer - or has any of the food you eat ever been enhanced with fertilizer? (the question here is do you buy local? Are you part of a garden community?) Got a kid - ever used vaseline or Vicks?(we would have oil for things like Vicks and lubricants, etc.... but not if we DRILL IT ALL OUT - it is NOT a renewable resource!!)
Sure you have! Guess what, all are derived from oil and gas. Want rigs in the Gulf of Mexico? Me neither, but you know what - Mother Nature put oil and gas in the ground where she wanted it, not a choice for you and I.
(blame the woman! lol - and what is to happen when all of the oil is used? Hmmmm??)
Gulf of Mexico, Wyoming, Colorado, Pennsylvania - none of the folks in these places seem to want oil and gas drilling. OK, then let's just pay the Middle East for our oil and gas.(let's find ways to CONSERVE! And we get most of our oil from Canada) Ask the families of our brave soldiers how that is working out...
Coal? Largest carbon producer of any of our current energy sources. Nuclear? You probably don't want that in SoWal either, rightr? Wind? Truly not feasible on a large scale. Solar? Same thing... (I call BS on your statement on solar. I am currently selling energy BACK to Chelco - our meter runs BACKWARDS using solar)
Bottom line. If you want relatively cheap (not necessarily do I think that CHEAP oil is in our best interest) and clean oil and gas as the energy source for a bridge fuel to the next century when technology will finally (I hope) render fusion and hydrogen as the ultimate fuel source, we all have to make some sacrifices on where it is produced.(let's make "sacrifices" now - by doing the above mentioned conservation practices and treating oil like it is - something that ain't gonna be around for long!)
Now my question to you, south of 30A and others who are proponents of drilling anywhere and everywhere, is what are YOU doing to conserve resources for future generations so that we may postpone any drilling for as long as possible in environmentally sensitive spots such as off the waters of FL?
Thanks
G
PS I usually don't take this tone, but I was just parroting back the same tone that was put out there for us anti-drillers in the first place.
And I don't mean to sound like a bragger when it comes to the solar thing - I just get so upset when I hear it can't be done or it costs too much - I am passionate that we find a way to conserve our resources that's all. Thx
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SoWal Guide
why do people think that God created the earth with oil in it so we could use it up as we please?
Gidget you have asked some good questions.
I say jack up those gas prices! let's find alternative and better energy sources and new ways to travel to and fro wherever!
Gidget you have asked some good questions.
I say jack up those gas prices! let's find alternative and better energy sources and new ways to travel to and fro wherever!
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SoWal Expert
Raise gas prices? But then I won't be able to get change from a $20 when I fill up my car! 
Beach Fanatic
Raise gas prices? But then I won't be able to get change from a $20 when I fill up my car!Hee hee!
Banned
With hybrids it's reasonable to expect average overall mpg to at least double in the coming years. Already, all electric cars are starting to look more and more practical. For a lot of people, 100 miles per charge would be more than enough for most day to day activities. But no! our very survival depends on us tapping a very dirty natural resource in a fluid medium where it can spread and destroy irreplaceable natural wonders. And in the name of patriotism we need to do this immediately.
(in our own backyard no less)
(in our own backyard no less)SoWal Expert
With hybrids it's reasonable to expect average overall mpg to at least double in the coming years. Already, all electric cars are starting to look more and more practical. For a lot of people, 100 miles per charge would be more than enough for most day to day activities. But no! our very survival depends on us tapping a very dirty natural resource in a fluid medium where it can spread and destroy irreplaceable natural wonders. And in the name of patriotism we need to do this immediately.
Between that and your avatar pic, you made my day! :rofl:
Beach Fanatic
With hybrids it's reasonable to expect average overall mpg to at least double in the coming years. Already, all electric cars are starting to look more and more practical. For a lot of people, 100 miles per charge would be more than enough for most day to day activities. But no! our very survival depends on us tapping a very dirty natural resource in a fluid medium where it can spread and destroy irreplaceable natural wonders. And in the name of patriotism we need to do this immediately.
Banned
Well, I think there are those who would drill through GW's skull at Mt. Rushmore if they thought they'd strike oil.
Banned
Well, I think there are those who would drill through GW's skull at Mt. Rushmore if they thought they'd strike oil.
Oh my! Ya know I've always ta get inside his head!;-)
Beach Fanatic
talk to me about how feasible solar is versus the cost of this "little" spill once it gets contained and all the equipment that cost billions and is now a charred heap at the bottom of the gulf is totaled up.
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SoWal Guide
Raise gas prices? But then I won't be able to get change from a $20 when I fill up my car!tuffsheet.
Beach Fanatic
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