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Obama Fails the Test of Office

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A leader is defined as one who can marshal all resources required to address a current crisis and do so in a minimal amount of time. Have a plan of action and implement it immediately. At the same time, conveying to the American people the who, what, when , where and why. Our president is woefully lacking as a leader.

The masterful article below is from The American Thinker. I love those guys over there.

Obama Fails the Test of Office

By J.R. Dunn
Over the past few weeks, we've been treated to a precise and detailed preview of what the rest of the Obama presidency will be like: a sky black with chickens coming home to roost and blaming George W. Bush.

Not even midway into the Obama presidency, we've been hit with two major crises and a scandal. Constituting the first serious challenges to confront this administration, they arrive quite belated, occurring eighteen months into Obama's first term. Obama has had plenty of time to prepare (recall that Bush was thrust into his moment of truth less than nine months after taking office). So how has he done?

The crises are, of course, the Deepwater Horizon blowout and the sinking of the South Korean warship Cheonan. (The Israeli maritime strike against Hamas has not yet blown up to crisis level, though the administration is doing its best to accomplish that.) The scandal is the Sestak affair, now promoted to the Sestak-Romanoff affair.

George W. Bush was condemned by everybody from the man in the street to Heaven's mighty seraphim due to the fact that federal aid did not arrive in New Orleans for three whole days after Hurricane Katrina struck. (This was -- and remains -- standard operating procedure for federal disaster assistance. It's hard to see how it could be otherwise -- but we'll skip that.) It has been six weeks since the Deepwater Horizon blowout. And what has the Obama administration accomplished in a time period fourteen times longer than that granted to Bush?

Well, we've seen Obama frowning. Obama sticking his fingers into the sand. Obama saying he's frustrated. Obama telling us a heartwarming story about his daughter. He even, according to spokesman Robert Gibbs, said "damn" at one point. (Though this has not yet been independently verified by a third party.)

That's it. That's the sum total of accomplishment by Barack Obama, his administration, his party, and his bureaucracy, in facing his first major domestic crisis.

The hardware and ancillary equipment necessary to deal with a seabed blowout is well understood. (This information has been nicely presented elsewhere, here in particular, but we'll repeat it because the exercise is so fulfilling to the soul.) Floating booms trap the oil and keep it from dispersing. Burn booms isolate floating oil and set it ablaze. Tankers can be equipped to sweep the oil off the ocean surface. Not a single one of these items was available to any of the parties responsible for responding to a potential disaster in the Gulf. Not BP, not the Interior Department, not the federal government as a whole. The feds tried to borrow a fire boom from a private party. To what purpose is difficult to surmise -- a single boom would be about as useful as a plastic bucket in a disaster of this magnitude. Much of the past month and a half has been spent playing catchup on the equipment front, and we have not yet seen the end of it.

(For a sense of perspective, in those three days when Bush was doing "nothing," the U.S. Army was moving entire units into Louisiana from as far away as Kentucky, the Coast Guard was rescuing from twenty to thirty thousand trapped flood victims, and FEMA was launching the mammoth logistical effort to move the materials necessary for recovery. So what did Bush do wrong again? Looked out a plane window, you say?)

It's actually far worse than it seems, since Obama's failures extend to well before the blowout ever occurred. His appointee to Interior, Ken Salazar, supposedly a new order of Green crusader, failed to provide any meaningful oversight to the agencies under his control, or even give them so much as a quick examination, as far as anyone has been able to tell. But this is easily topped by the pure idiocy of announcing a new effort on offshore drilling without close consultation with industry experts, which might have revealed that at least one company was cutting corners. So the big blowout is not only a failure, but it's a multidimensional failure occurring over a lengthy duration.

We came at last to the Jindal plan, the sole attempt on record by any government official to do anything at all to halt the encroaching oil slicks. Bobby Jindal wanted to build a series of berms along the Louisiana coast. He needed federal backing for this, since the plan was a big-ticket item, with some estimates reaching $360 million. So how did the administration of President Trillion-Dollar Deficit respond? Not at all, you'll be shocked to hear. The governor heard nothing from the feds for weeks as oil began to saturate the coastal wetlands. Then, far to the north, Sarah the Huntress raised her fearsome fingers to tweet a message south: Gov.Jindal: to avoid ravished coast, build the berms. Ask forgiveness later;Feds are slow to act, local leadership&action can do more for coast.

Only then did the administration at last break its silence to order British Petroleum to pay for five berms. Why this could not have happened a month ago is anybody's guess, as is the question as to why they did not agree to the sixteen berms that Jindal says are necessary.

The Deepwater Horizon disaster is a twofer: the worst environmental disaster on record matched with most incompetent response. And all on the watch of America's greenest president. Who'd have ever guessed?

But let's cut O a little slack. After all, as his supporters say, it's not as if nothing else was happening. There's no end of urgent matters to occupy the presidential time. What about Korea?

Okay, what about it? North Korea, the most rogue of rogue regimes, torpedoes a warship, the corvette Cheonan, at the cost of 46 lives, in the most blatant act of aggression since the armistice was signed in July 1953. And Obama's response was...

Nothing. It's as if nobody was sitting in the Oval Office. As far as anyone has been able to discern, there has been no consultation with Japan; no attempt to nudge China, the sole ally North Korea has; no gesture toward U.N. involvement, for what that would be worth; no realignment or reinforcement of military forces to pressure the North. The entire administration response is encompassed in a single remark from Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs: "We certainly don't want a conflict."

That's it. The most fraught encounter of the Cold War, a three-year clash costing 60,000 American lives, 650,000+ Chinese, and well over a million Koreans, looks as if it's about to explode once again, and what do we get from the U.S. government? "We don't want no trouble, Mr. Kim. I mean that. Just tell us what you want us to do." (The Pacific president then underlined his negligence by canceling a trip to the region for the second time.)

What do I think? I think that Kim, facing his impending death, is lashing out in the style of Tiberius. ("When I die, let fire the earth consume.") We'll be hearing more from north of the 38th parallel -- and I doubt it will wait until 2012.

Evidently, Joe Sestak doesn't exist, either.

Bill Clinton, that great, close friend of Obama, offered Sestak not a job, but a seat on some kind of intelligence council unknown to even the most experienced Washington media hands. A useless position, without even a salary, and one which, it turns out, Sestak wasn't even eligible for. This as the payoff for backing out of a viable senate campaign in one of the key mid-Atlantic states. That's what Mister I-did-not-have-sex-with-that-woman wants us to believe.

This is obviously a story cooked up to curtail further inquiries while legally covering everyone involved. It follows several months of complete silence apart from the customary runaround from Robert Gibbs. The fact that there must be more to it would not have escaped the attention of a small child, as long as that child was not employed by a major media outlet.

The story grew legs last week when it was revealed that Colorado senate candidate Andrew Romanoff was offered a choice of three positions by White House apparatchik Jim Messina if he too abandoned his campaign.

So now we have two identical potential felonies connected with the administration. Excitement on our side of the fence has reached a high pitch, with speculation concerning impeachment or a forced resignation. Is there anything to it?

Sad to say, probably not. The classic formulation concerning political scandals is that they work best the less you need to explain them. Watergate scarcely needed any explanation. A burglary of Democratic headquarters by shady operatives on behalf of a paranoid Richard Nixon? The story in all its ramifications told itself with no effort whatsoever. But this? Somebody in the White House -- nobody knows who -- wanted to give a guy a job. There's no resonance to this story; it opens no broad vistas of criminality and corruption. Push it too hard as it stands and it's likely to generate a blowback in favor of Obama as much as anything else. (Besides, it was Big Bill who offered the deal, and he's already been impeached once. It didn't even slow him down.)

All the same, Obama is repeating Nixon's mistake in trying to ignore the scandal out of existence. They called this "stonewalling" back in 1972. It works for a while, but not forever. If something else comes up, it could blow the whole thing wide open. Perhaps Darrell Issa will track down something interesting. We can hope.

There are three markers for dismal in modern American politics: Bush's Katrina effort for natural disasters (unfair, I know, but there it is), Jimmy Carter's inertia during the Iranian hostage crisis for foreign relations, and Richard Nixon's Watergate fiasco for internal scandals. As of this moment, Obama has matched all three, and, it can be argued, exceeded them in the case of Bush and Carter.

As for future crises, all planted, fertilized, watered, and ready to emerge, we have:

Israel -- the Hamas flotilla was simply a test to see how far they could go, much the same as the Cheonan sinking. There will be more to come.
Iran -- those nukes will be coming off the line soon enough. Praise Allah!
Russia -- perpetually on the alert to grab off whatever they can. O handled Georgia just swell, didn't he?
Collapse of the Euro -- not so much a possibility as a certainty. But hey, economics is O's major strength. We've got to admit that, haven't we?
Terror Strikes -- eventually the jihadis are going to run out of goofs and send somebody who can figure out how to light a fuse. Look out below!
The Border -- What border?
A Double Dip -- See "Collapse of the Euro," above.

...along with the inevitable unforeseen eventuality that always hits at the precise wrong moment.

Previous presidents have often grown in stature when trouble hits. FDR, Harry Truman, and Bush all manned up when confronted with unexpected and overwhelming crises, which is why we look back at them with affection and respect (yes, even FDR). Can anybody picture O doing the same? Well, Salvador Dal?, maybe, but I'm not him.

Obama got into office under false pretenses, a fact that has now become undeniable. He was omnicompetent, eminently intelligent, the man -- the god, according to some -- with all the answers. Now the lifeguard is at the deep end of the pool, over his head, and floundering, with the bath house on fire and alligators jumping into the children's end. It is our task as citizens (and I include those who voted for him) to assure that he doesn't pull the U.S., not to mention the rest of the world, down with him, while also somehow dealing with all those other challenges. This should keep us busy until 2012.

I take great comfort in Adam Smith's dictum: "Be assured that there is a great deal of ruin in a nation." This holds far more truth for the United States than for many other countries. Even today, with all that we've endured, we still have suffered only a few dents and scratches. The U.S. is tough; whatever comes, we'll get through it all right. In truth, much of our problem lies in the fact that we've become a bit spoiled -- as O's election demonstrates clearly enough. We need some of that kicked out of us by circumstances. When the Interregnum is over, we'll in better shape than we were when it began.

And I'll tell you something else: he'll crack before we do.

J.R. Dunn is consulting editor of American Thinker.

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Beach Fanatic
#52
May also check on The First Lady and her staffers expense(s) :yikes:



You would be singing a different tune if this was happening here as it is in Louisiana.

This is a crisis in America and that is why the feds should be involved. Did you mind paying for hurricane disasters or the September 11 disaster?

I would prefer my tax dollar go to the Gulf Coast than ACORN.

Yowsa! I'm just surprised no one has bashed The American Thinker in this thread yet.

From what I recall about the 9.11.01 attack is that they weren't Afghanis - Osama bin Laden remains a man without a country; his country renounced his citizenship a couple of decades ago. Then, we attacked Iraq during a time when people around the globe was for this. And, because Hussein violated 12 years of sanctions and the UN would not enforce the sanctions. Interesting. I've said before that I don't believe any of these men (and, women) get to the seat of the Presidency by being less than intelligent. However, people are always going to slam Bush in this respect. I think he's handled this criticism rather well.

Comparing this to Katrina is silly to me. However, Bush was begging the Gov. of LA to declare emergency before the storm even hit. She wouldn't - something about States' Rights? If Fed had moved in and infiltrated LA, guess what? Bush would have been slammed for violating the protocol. I have no idea how that Mayor was re-elected. Jindal has been begging Fed to come in and help and was essentially ignored. This entire Gulf Crisis breaks my heart on many, many fronts.

We should move in and clean up the Gulf Oil Spill, presenting BP the bill. I agree that there have been people around the world wanting to assist - just who has been the NO person? Our President has come up short with this crisis.

I like the Beatles alot. However, he should not have made the comment he made......neither those Dixie Chics. Our current President should not have politely laughed. Arrogance! Eck!

That doesn't sound right to me. I've written to the White House and asked, I will let you know what I find out.

BTW, I agree it was a snarky comment. :idontno:
Alicia Leonard avatar
SoWal Insider
#53
May also check on The First Lady and her staffers expense(s) :yikes:

Do we really have to go all the way back to the new china for the WH uproar?

While Rome burned and the gulf filled with oil, they biotched and moaned over politics. Things that would change nothing at the end of the day, except to fill their own egos with the balm of their self-righteousness.-aleonard
Beach Fanatic
#54
I'm not Beyatchiong sweet Aleo:wub: I was just sayin:cool:



Do we really have to go all the way back to the new china for the WH uproar?

While Rome burned and the gulf filled with oil, they biotched and moaned over politics. Things that would change nothing at the end of the day, except to fill their own egos with the balm of their self-righteousness.-aleonard
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#55
I have yet to see a link to the 10 million dollar Obama entertainment budget.

Further I'm a little shocked that people can proclaim what a good thing it is for a working POTUS to read 50+ books a year. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but I'd have to work part time to accomplish that. I also have to consider the source of that information as dubious at best, Karl Rove, come on.
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#56
Oh and as to Sir Paul's remark, those saying it was in poor taste should take a serious look in the mirror. Are you seriously trying to tell me that's worse than some of the hate and vitriol spewed just on this board since Obama was elected?
Alicia Leonard avatar
SoWal Insider
#57
I'm not Beyatchiong sweet Aleo:wub: I was just sayin:cool:


You forgot to add this at the end:sarc: and just sayin is the new biotching, sweet Biff. :wub:
Beach Fanatic
#58
:wub::wave:


You forgot to add this at the end:sarc: and just sayin is the new biotching, sweet Biff. :wub:
sarawind avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#59
I have yet to see a link to the 10 million dollar Obama entertainment budget.

Further I'm a little shocked that people can proclaim what a good thing it is for a working POTUS to read 50+ books a year. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but I'd have to work part time to accomplish that. I also have to consider the source of that information as dubious at best, Karl Rove, come on.

If you are so distrubed by the $10 million dollar quote why not just look it up for yourself? You are so smart and know something about every subject.

I heard President Bush talking about his book reading contest with Rove on CSpan also. It is true. .
Lake View Too avatar
SoWal Insider
#60
That doesn't sound right to me. I've written to the White House and asked, I will let you know what I find out.

BTW, I agree it was a snarky comment. :idontno:

Correction: It was a cheeky comment. The Beatles were known for cheeky comments. Obama reflexively reacted as any human would. In retrospect, I think we should take back the Gershwin award and maybe the knighthood too. This is all Paul's fault... I'm going to burn all my Beatles records and I'm not going to believe him anymore about that "all you need is love" crap. (Ya'll gettin weirder by the second.)
sarawind avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#61
That doesn't sound right to me. I've written to the White House and asked, I will let you know what I find out.

BTW, I agree it was a snarky comment. :idontno:

From FoxNation:

Rpt.: Obama Wastes Millions in Personal Entertainment
The same hypocrite who says our energy costs must ?necessarily skyrocket? to fund his political ambition, is giving Marie Antoinette a run for her money when it comes to spending national treasure on personal luxuries.

While much of the country is struggling to pay their bills, the President and First Lady are partying like rock royalty. The collection of talent that has made the pilgrimage to the White House to entertain Obama and friends is nothing less than amazing: Bob Dylan, Stevie Wonder, Tony Bennet, Paul Simon, Marc Anthony, Herbie Hancock, Martina McBride, Queen Latifah, The Foo Fighters, Faith Hill, and recently foot-in-mouth Paul McCartney to name a few.

This has the makings to be the greatest ongoing concert series ever to be seen on this Earth just to entertain one man ? all paid for by the American taxpayer.

Let Them Eat Cake

How much does this world-class entertainment cost? Assuming the artists themselves forgo appearance fees, I highly doubt Paul Simon would perform with just a karaoke machine as backup.

Professional equipment needs to be brought in - sound engineers, stages, lights, etc? Even small scale performances by these artists can be very expensive.

Add booze, food, security, invitations, social secretaries, wait staff, and hangers on to the tab and the price for one of these events could easily top $75K. With over 27 concerts hosted thus far, the total cost to taxpayers is in the millions of dollars.

The executive branch does not provide detailed information regarding entertainment expenses, however, it has been estimated the Obamas spent at least $10 million on ?White House parties? in 2009 alone.
Lake View Too avatar
SoWal Insider
#62
Sarahwind: I'm not a google expert but Bush is somewhat famous for commenting that he doesn't read many books. It's right up there with his famous "you're doing a heck of a job, Brownie" comment. The fact that Rove had to come back and say "yes he does read" kinda says it all, does it?
sarawind avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#63
Sarahwind: I'm not a google expert but Bush is somewhat famous for commenting that he doesn't read many books. It's right up there with his famous "you're doing a heck of a job, Brownie" comment. The fact that Rove had to come back and say "yes he does read" kinda says it all, does it?

LakeViewToo, it is well known the President Bush and Karl Rove had/have a book reading contest and it has gone on several years. Maybe you should learn to Google and find out information for yourself instead of posting comments that are untrue, unkind and a touch dumb.

As for the Brownie comment, yes it was not Bush's greatest moment. President Bush, however, is not stupid. Oh, do you know we have a new President? You, I fear, are suffering from BDS. (Bush Derangement Syndrome)
Lake View Too avatar
SoWal Insider
#64
LakeViewToo, it is well known the President Bush and Karl Rove had/have a book reading contest and it has gone on several years. Maybe you should learn to Google and find out information for yourself instead of posting comments that are untrue, unkind and a touch dumb.

As for the Brownie comment, yes it was not Bush's greatest moment. President Bush, however, is not stupid. Oh, do you know we have a new President? You, I fear, are suffering from BDS. (Bush Derangement Syndrome)

I didn't bring up Bush. Paul did. And you brought up Paul, in a discussion about Media Coverage of the Oil Spill. I have apologized to you twice. I'll make sure it doesn't happen again.
sarawind avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#65
I didn't bring up Bush. Paul did. And you brought up Paul, in a discussion about Media Coverage of the Oil Spill. I have apologized to you twice. I'll make sure it doesn't happen again.

Who is Paul? Paul from the other thread as in Beatles?

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Lynnie avatar
SoWal Insider
#66
That Beatle - Sir Paul McCartney or Rude Paul as someone else called him. I do like his daughter's clothing designs, though.....she is an animal rights activist and does great shoes without leather! I love that!
sarawind avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#67
That Beatle - Sir Paul McCartney or Rude Paul as someone else called him. I do like his daughter's clothing designs, though.....she is an animal rights activist and does great shoes without leather! I love that!

Thanks, I'll look into his daughters designs.
Mango avatar
SoWal Insider
#68
LakeViewToo, it is well known the President Bush and Karl Rove had/have a book reading contest and it has gone on several years. Maybe you should learn to Google and find out information for yourself instead of posting comments that are untrue, unkind and a touch dumb.

You've been insulting and throwing flames on several threads. Read the Rules of forum, particularly:

While debating and discussion is encouraged, we will not tolerate rudeness, insulting posts, personal attacks or purposeless inflammatory posts. Our decision is final in these matters.
Andy A avatar
Beach Fanatic
#69
Oh and as to Sir Paul's remark, those saying it was in poor taste should take a serious look in the mirror. Are you seriously trying to tell me that's worse than some of the hate and vitriol spewed just on this board since Obama was elected?
..."hate and vitriol spewed just on this board since Obama was elected?" May I respectfully suggest, SWGB, you go back to many of the political threads while Bush was President if you really want to find "hate and vitriol". And,regardless what you and all the other Progressives on the board say, it was in poor taste by any measurement.
Minnie avatar
Beach Fanatic
#70
I did not care for Bush and I don't really care for Obama, they both are way too cozy with big business for my comfort level.

But while in office both should recieve the respect that the office of the President deserves.

As to the comments on this forum about Bush and Obama there is enough hatred and vitriol and rudeness to pretty much say it was evenly spewed.

You can not expect people to respect your Presidential preference when you do not respect thiers.

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Andy A avatar
Beach Fanatic
#71
You've been insulting and throwing flames on several threads. Read the Rules of forum, particularly:

While debating and discussion is encouraged, we will not tolerate rudeness, insulting posts, personal attacks or purposeless inflammatory posts. Our decision is final in these matters.
Mango, this is at least the second time I have noted you cautioning (and I use the word reservedly) SaraWind about her posting techniques. For your information, some of us do not know how to add links to the forum. We have managed to learn how to "cut and Paste". Are we to quit posting because we do not have the computer expertise of so many other posters? That was a part of your first "caution" to SW. Now, to the second part of your admonishment. There is plenty of intolerant display on both sides of the spectrum on this board. I have yet to see a left leaning poster admonished by anybody but it certainly seems to happen with regularity to those of us with a right bent.
Now if I may, a suggestion to a moderator. If you wish to censure a poster it is my belief a PM might be a better method. BTW, I hate to see any poster censored because many such posts can be useful and informative.
Yzarctoo avatar
Beach Fanatic
#72
Oh and as to Sir Paul's remark, those saying it was in poor taste should take a serious look in the mirror. Are you seriously trying to tell me that's worse than some of the hate and vitriol spewed just on this board since Obama was elected?


I am not in the White House that belongs to the American people performing in front of guests and the President. I believe a guest especially from a foreign country, etertaining or being honored in our White House should be treated with respect and they in turn should treat our White House, and our past and present president and our country with respect. I was disappointed to hear that after his "joke" folks attending along with the first family laughed with even some clapping. There are some times that require good behavior no matter what one's political views are and the situation they find themselves in... if that had been Bush and Laura sitting there and someone made a snirky remark about Clinton ...you guys would be all bent out of shape and sqealing to high heaven.
Yzarctoo avatar
Beach Fanatic
#73
You've been insulting and throwing flames on several threads. Read the Rules of forum, particularly:

While debating and discussion is encouraged, we will not tolerate rudeness, insulting posts, personal attacks or purposeless inflammatory posts. Our decision is final in these matters.

Mango, may I ask you how Lucifer, BOB, SWGB , Poppy and others aren't sent to time out...do you not read their comments. I am taking the above bold statement that you are in charge of this political forum...
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#74
From FoxNation:

Rpt.: Obama Wastes Millions in Personal Entertainment
The same hypocrite who says our energy costs must ?necessarily skyrocket? to fund his political ambition, is giving Marie Antoinette a run for her money when it comes to spending national treasure on personal luxuries.

While much of the country is struggling to pay their bills, the President and First Lady are partying like rock royalty. The collection of talent that has made the pilgrimage to the White House to entertain Obama and friends is nothing less than amazing: Bob Dylan, Stevie Wonder, Tony Bennet, Paul Simon, Marc Anthony, Herbie Hancock, Martina McBride, Queen Latifah, The Foo Fighters, Faith Hill, and recently foot-in-mouth Paul McCartney to name a few.

This has the makings to be the greatest ongoing concert series ever to be seen on this Earth just to entertain one man ? all paid for by the American taxpayer.

Let Them Eat Cake

How much does this world-class entertainment cost? Assuming the artists themselves forgo appearance fees, I highly doubt Paul Simon would perform with just a karaoke machine as backup.

Professional equipment needs to be brought in - sound engineers, stages, lights, etc? Even small scale performances by these artists can be very expensive.

Add booze, food, security, invitations, social secretaries, wait staff, and hangers on to the tab and the price for one of these events could easily top $75K. With over 27 concerts hosted thus far, the total cost to taxpayers is in the millions of dollars.

The executive branch does not provide detailed information regarding entertainment expenses, however, it has been estimated the Obamas spent at least $10 million on ?White House parties? in 2009 alone.

So again no actual facts, just assumptions and possibilities.
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#75
They do - everyone has to follow the same rules and you will see people get called out by both the moderators and other posters for not behaving. :roll:

And the "if I'm wrong, then why isn't so-and-so getting in trouble too" defense doesn't hold much water among adults.
sarawind avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#76
You've been insulting and throwing flames on several threads. Read the Rules of forum, particularly:

While debating and discussion is encouraged, we will not tolerate rudeness, insulting posts, personal attacks or purposeless inflammatory posts. Our decision is final in these matters.

Dear Mango, I've not insulted or thrown flames here. I have disagreed with other posters. Some don't care for being challenged in their beliefs and strike out. I merely respond as I don't care for untruths being thrown out here on either side. Let me tell you it takes someone with a thick skin to post here that has Conservative beliefs. If you don't have same that's fine with me. But I'm not going to tolerate abuse then be accused of flames and insults when I respond which I have the right to do. I've been told to show proof of my comments but have not seen this happen to one Liberal on the website. Discrimination isn't pretty.

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