Back to SoWal Lounge

Neighborhood Electric Vehicles

Beach Fanatic
10,731 views
Is the vocal majority on this board still vociferously opposed to Neighborhood Electric Vehicle expansion (for the last 2 miles of 30A that are NEV forbidden) on 30A as they were a couple months ago?

Replies

213
Lake View Too avatar
SoWal Insider
#77
I've decided to cross over to the dark side on this issue. Think about it: if you're cruising along at 20 to 25mph, you have so much more time for texting. For that matter, you could probably watch a video, or read the newspaper, while you wait two hours to get to your destination. I've always wanted to try driving with my knees for prolonged periods of time...:sarc:
Geo avatar
Beach Fanatic
#78
You're not being very green, Geo. Obama would be ashamed. 😀


Ha. I'm on board with the green movement. There exist numerous vehicles that are greener than the glorified golf carts that are more suitable/safe for roadways that don't require a lowering of the speed limit.

I don't have an issue with them being on the roads for which they have been designed. Drive them in communities. Drive them on roads between communities legally. But when the roads are rural with a posted speed limit that exceeds 35MPH then they shouldn't be driven. What is so hard to understand?

This is a case of people who like driving their vehicles that were designed for communities and roads with low speed limits wanting to change the law so they can drive their vehicles where they weren't intended to be driven. That's it.

I know people who own street legal horse and buggies. The law stipulates that these vehicles shouldn't be driven on roadways with high posted speed limits. Should we lower the speed limit on Scenic 98 to make the horse and buggy crowd happy? Horse and buggies are green. There is no data that proves it would be unsafe. There are plenty of Amish towns that have amended their laws. People should just slow down and enjoy the sights so the horse and buggies can take longer trips. :sarc:

There is no compelling reason to change the law here.
30ashopper avatar
SoWal Insider
#79
I wasn't suggesting we lower the speed limit on 30A, I was suggesting we add additional support along the roadway for other types of vehicles. There's plenty of room, and it's just a little bit of grading and asphalt.
AndrewG avatar
Beach Fanatic
#80
With gas predicted to hit $5/gallon by 2012 you'll be seeing more alternative energy vehicles including LSV's on 30A
kitlit avatar
Beach Fanatic
#81
I wasn't suggesting we lower the speed limit on 30A, I was suggesting we add additional support along the roadway for other types of vehicles. There's plenty of room, and it's just a little bit of grading and asphalt.

Because it's so very green to just add a little bit more asphalt... :roll:
Rainwater drainage along 30A is already a nightmare! You've gotta be kidding! :bang:
kitlit avatar
Beach Fanatic
#82
With gas predicted to hit $5/gallon by 2012 you'll be seeing more alternative energy vehicles including LSV's on 30A

And if the Sheriff's Dept. is doing their job, we'll be seeing more blue lights as well... :wave:
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#83
With gas predicted to hit $5/gallon by 2012 you'll be seeing more alternative energy vehicles including LSV's on 30A

Yes, high gas prices seem to be one of the few things that makes the majority of the population think about conservation and alt fuels.

Though I predict more bikes, carpools, fuel efficient, hybrids, and electrics than LSVs.

Edited

30A Skunkape avatar
Skunky
#84
With gas predicted to hit $5/gallon by 2012 you'll be seeing more alternative energy vehicles including LSV's on 30A

Just a guess, but I bet the majority of golf carts cluttering up the 30-A corridor are rentals. $5 gas means fewer prospective golf cart renters coming to town. I would bet most locals don't burn too much gas on 30-A to begin with, most is expended driving to points east and west on HWY 98.
Geo avatar
Beach Fanatic
#85
$5/gallon gas will make people drive less. It will hurt SUV sales. It will drive up the demand for fuel efficient vehicles made by Toyota and Ford and Chevy. It will fuel (no pun intended) growth and adoption of technology that we see in vehicles like the Prius and the Volt.

It will cause very few to buy golf carts.
TreeFrog avatar
Beach Fanatic
#86
$5/gallon gas will make people drive less. It will hurt SUV sales. It will drive up the demand for fuel efficient vehicles made by Toyota and Ford and Chevy. It will fuel (no pun intended) growth and adoption of technology that we see in vehicles like the Prius and the Volt.

It will cause very few to buy golf carts.

People of modest income can't own glorified golf carts for daily transportation. They need a dependable, all-weather vehicle that can make short or long drives to and from work and for personal drives. Their $6000 will be spent on a good used car, pickup, SUV, or minivan.

Behind all the posturing about fuel efficiency, there are two kinds of people promoting use of these vehicles on 30A: Well-to-do folks who want to venture out of their neighborhood at the beach in their golf cart/buggy/LSV (call it any name you want), and those with a commercial interest in selling or renting those same vehicles. I'm just guessing here, that those who fall in the first group aren't trying to help reduce our carbon footprint by driving a Prius/Volt/Leaf as their primary mode of transportation.
30A Skunkape avatar
Skunky
#87
People of modest income can't own glorified golf carts for daily transportation. They need a dependable, all-weather vehicle that can make short or long drives to and from work and for personal drives. Their $6000 will be spent on a good used car, pickup, SUV, or minivan.

Behind all the posturing about fuel efficiency, there are two kinds of people promoting use of these vehicles on 30A: Well-to-do folks who want to venture out of their neighborhood at the beach in their golf cart/buggy/LSV (call it any name you want), and those with a commercial interest in selling or renting those same vehicles. I'm just guessing here, that those who fall in the first group aren't trying to help reduce our carbon footprint by driving a Prius/Volt/Leaf as their primary mode of transportation.

I think of these souped-up golf carts as the chariots of the nouveau riche.:lol:
Geo avatar
Beach Fanatic
#88
People of modest income can't own glorified golf carts for daily transportation. They need a dependable, all-weather vehicle that can make short or long drives to and from work and for personal drives. Their $6000 will be spent on a good used car, pickup, SUV, or minivan.

Behind all the posturing about fuel efficiency, there are two kinds of people promoting use of these vehicles on 30A: Well-to-do folks who want to venture out of their neighborhood at the beach in their golf cart/buggy/LSV (call it any name you want), and those with a commercial interest in selling or renting those same vehicles. I'm just guessing here, that those who fall in the first group aren't trying to help reduce our carbon footprint by driving a Prius/Volt/Leaf as their primary mode of transportation.


There it is...
:clap:
Kurt avatar
Admin
#89
I think of these souped-up golf carts as the chariots of the nouveau riche.:lol:

That goes back to my point that they are luxuries (toys). I'd be willing to bet that it takes more energy to collect and process raw materials, build an LSV, transport it to dealers and to final destination, marketing, etc. than one would ever save by parking their primary car.

Especially when a large SUV is driven hundreds of miles to get here and still driven most of the time while here. Also consider all the petroleum and other resources necessary just for parts to build an LSV.

Yes they burn less gas than most autos, but touting LSVs as green is just marketing bs and insults our intelligence.

I'm not so sure the safety argument holds water on the other side, at least until you see pre-teens packed in one crossing yards, weaving on and off the bike path ignoring all traffic laws, driving down beach boardwalks . . .
AndrewG avatar
Beach Fanatic
#90
So by the same generalization if you're against LSV's you're either poor or against small business?

Checking your forum account

Please wait while we verify your forum account.