The lefts hypocrisy...

Opposing the building of another mosque near ground zero shows very little sympathy for Muslim 911 victims, service members, and their families, yet the right argues the constitutional right to do so.

A deranged pastor wants to burn korans, and he is rightly chastised by both political parties for choosing to do so.

Hehe, the very clever pastor has chosen to not burn the koran after all, after receiving all the attention he craves ...... (and after he realized he was SO wrong President Obama and Sarah Palin agreed on the issue).

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Opposing the building of another mosque near ground zero shows very little sympathy for Muslim 911 victims, service members, and their families, yet the right argues the constitutional right to do so.

A deranged pastor wants to burn korans, and he is rightly chastised by both political parties for choosing to do so.

Hehe, the very clever pastor has chosen to not burn the koran after all, after receiving all the attention he craves ...... (and after he realized he was SO wrong President Obama and Sarah Palin agreed on the issue).

Edited a little for ya!

It does not matter if he is right or wrong or classless or craves attention,he still has the constitutional right to do so and that is the arguement here.The political correctness does not apply as comparing the mosque building and the koran burning....it all falls into the same category.
Both have the American Rights to choose to do so but for some reason the mosque gets a free pass and the pastor exploited the fact....

No hypocrisy. The big difference is that it is indisputable that burning a Koran is an inflammatory, offensive (to some), classless act. There is little room for opinion on that one. Building of the mosque could be considered by many to be a non-event. There is certainly room for disagreement.

I have to ask, at this stage of the game, are you really willing to believe the pastor's story that the Imam has agreed not to build the cultural center. Don't you think a little fact checking is in order before you reap such high praise on this psycho-Xian dirtbag. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing good to say about Muslim fundies either. In fact, it looks like the Imam just issued a veiled threat regarding what will happen if the mosque plans are abandoned. That's what makes me question your hero's story.

I never questioned whether he had a constitution right to burn Korans, just said it was rude and dumb for him to choose to do so.

I never questioned whether he had a constitution right to burn Korans, just said it was rude and dumb for him to choose to do so.

Agreed.The mosque falls into the same category.
Luci-That pastor is no hero of mine but he did exploit the hypocrisy of the constitutional right to do bad things and very clever I might add.
Have a nice evening yall.I will check in from time to time.;-)

One of the most interesting things to me is the fact that only one American has threatened to burn a Koran on 9/11.

I would think at least one in a million Americans would want or threaten to do so, & that would be 320-350 or so.

Are we really such a sane nation, that only one person out of 350 million of us has threatened to burn a Koran?

the pastor is in the lonesome valley

Building of the mosque at ground zero shows very little sympathy for 911 victims and their families,yet the left argues the constitutional right to do so.
A deranged pastor wants to burn korans,yet he is chastised for choosing to do so.Does he not have the same constitutional rights as the Imom???

Hehe,the very clever pastor has chosen to not burn the koran after all,after receiving a phone call from the Imom saying he was no longer pursuing to build the mosque at ground zero......Very clever.
Discuss and call me names..:roll:

empathy ain't your strong point

Agreed.The mosque falls into the same category.
Luci-That pastor is no hero of mine but he did exploit the hypocrisy of the constitutional right to do bad things and very clever I might add.
Have a nice evening yall.I will check in from time to time.;-)

No he's not clever. He's a failed publicity whore and hate-monger. This had nothing to do with the mosque. That was his last minute excuse when he realized he might want to back down. He made up that story. There is no deal with the imam. It was a face-saving B.S. story. It's back to square one, and now he's ready to burn again. He's an embarrassment to believers, non-believers, and blasphemers the world over. Quran burning on again? Pastor says maybe - U.S. news - Security - msnbc.com

empathy ain't your strong point

Ha! What about empathy towards the families of those that died in NY and their families? Why not show the same "empathy" for Americans? They can't do it,it's not politically correct.

Ha! What about empathy towards the families of those that died in NY and their families? Why not show the same "empathy" for Americans? They can't do it,it's not politically correct.

Easy answer for that. I'm part of the tragedy, I am an American, I don't have to huff and puff to show how much I identify with those who have suffered because I felt the full experience. You on the other hand are trying to co-opt other people's pain for personal gain. You're a prime candidate for a fail video.

Easy answer for that. I'm part of the tragedy, I am an American, I don't have to huff and puff to show how much I identify with those who have suffered because I felt the full experience. You on the other hand are trying to co-opt other people's pain for personal gain. You're a prime candidate for a fail video.

Yet you chastise a crazy pastor for exhibiting his constitutional right to burn a book,yet use the constitution to defend the mosque....you cannot have it both ways.You are political correctness that needs to be vaccinated.
You are a epic hypocrite.

Yet you chastise a crazy pastor for exhibiting his constitutional right to burn a book,yet use the constitution to defend the mosque....you cannot have it both ways.You are political correctness that needs to be vaccinated.
You are a epic hypocrite.

Not true, I think the Pastor has every right to do what he says he's going to do. I just think it's a bad idea and he's an idiot. As for the mosque, I don't think it's a bad idea. I'm not using the constitution to "defend the mosque" as you put it. I see nothing wrong with a mosque going in the proposed location, though I don't have a high opinion of the Imam associated with it.

I think it all boils down to intentions. The pastor's actions are purposfully petty, inflammatory and intolerant. The mosque means well, but didn't take into account American's inability to separate a religion from it's extremist fringes actions.

The History Channel has a documentary being aired now. Not sure I can even watch it, but saw a few min. of it last night. I did not know that the first plane's Flight Attendant went against policy and made contact with the ground to inform of the hijacking. She's a hero. Evidently, with her call, we (the officials) knew when the first aircraft flew into the Tower that we were under attack and were able to react very quickly.

Admittedly, I remembered that day vividly watching this. I can almost remember every minute of that day. Being suspended in time, looking for family and friends in NYC. I was on the phone with a friend who lived in Chelsea when the second Tower collapsed (we watched it together, crying). Then, we lost connection and I didn't hear from her for four days as cell service was basically knocked out in that area. I had to turn off the documentary. I know what you're saying Douglas, but for me, it's not an inability to separate a religion from the extremists. It's just still really raw and tender. I feel for New Yorkers and all who lost loved ones, worked the rescue and are emotionally spent.

I am for the mosque being erected. I thought they had already begun looking for a different property north of the site. You're right, the Pastor seems to be using this as fuel. Crazy, crazy, crazy.

I am just really so sorry that this crazy pastor, who does not represent true Christian beliefs, got any media attention at all. Too bad.

9-11 was a huge deal that greatly affected many of us - I can safely say that was the scariest and worst day of my life.

But it wasn't just non-Muslims who were affected and who have dealt with the fallout from that day. It's not an either/or situation. Being a Muslim does not mean you aren't an American.

I still don't see how building this project is an affront to those who lost families on 9-11. A mosque has been in that neighborhood since before those Towers were built and the group who wants to build the project has already been at that site for over a year - BECAUSE IT'S A MUSLIM NEIGHBORHOOD.

For me, it isn't that they want to build a mosque near Ground Zero, it's that they want to expand a mosque in Little Syria.

The terrorists didn't care, they hate everyone. Which is why they killed Muslims on the planes and in the towers.

And American Muslims hate those terrorists too - which is why Muslim first responders died trying to save people in the towers and Muslims have fought and died for their country in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Ha! What about empathy towards the families of those that died in NY and their families? Why not show the same "empathy" for Americans? They can't do it,it's not politically correct.

remember the alamo/the maine/pearl harbor. want to drag that **** up for some good old fashioned racial hate? time to move on, to quit whining, to quit leaning on that event as a basis for hate. ground zero will have all the monuments and plaques we can muster. the families and responders will eventually get money, but at some point[now], we need to stop picking at the scab. the mosque argument is juvenile.

remember the alamo/the maine/pearl harbor. want to drag that **** up for some good old fashioned racial hate? time to move on, to quit whining, to quit leaning on that event as a basis for hate. ground zero will have all the monuments and plaques we can muster. the families and responders will eventually get money, but at some point[now], we need to stop picking at the scab. the mosque argument is juvenile.

We need a new expression, "pain whore". Somebody who exploits terrible tragedy showing fake compassion as a means of self-promotion and also as a means of dragging down perceived adversaries, who are in fact figments of the deluded pain whore's imagination.

remember the alamo/the maine/pearl harbor. want to drag that **** up for some good old fashioned racial hate? time to move on, to quit whining, to quit leaning on that event as a basis for hate. ground zero will have all the monuments and plaques we can muster. the families and responders will eventually get money, but at some point[now], we need to stop picking at the scab. the mosque argument is juvenile.

"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it."
We remember these events not to drag up hate but to understrand how they happened and make sure we do not fall into the same traps again.

People love a good train wreck.

It does not matter if he is right or wrong or classless or craves attention,he still has the constitutional right to do so and that is the arguement here.The political correctness does not apply as comparing the mosque building and the koran burning....it all falls into the same category.
Both have the American Rights to choose to do so but for some reason the mosque gets a free pass and the pastor exploited the fact....

Allowing the mosque to be built in lower Manhattan makes life easier for our troops.

Not burning the Quran makes life easier for our troops.

And yet you are FOR moving the mosque FOR the idiot pastor's right to burn Qurans.

Those who subscribe to both of these positions might want to take a long hard look at who's side they're really on.

Allowing the mosque to be built in lower Manhattan makes life easier for our troops.

Not burning the Quran makes life easier for our troops.

And yet you are FOR moving the mosque FOR the idiot pastor's right to burn Qurans.

Those who subscribe to both of these positions might want to take a long hard look at who's side they're really on.

How does building the mosque make life easier for our troops? The arguement I have heard is that it could appear to be a sign of weakness and thus make life more dangerous for our troops.

"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it."
We remember these events not to drag up hate but to understrand how they happened and make sure we do not fall into the same traps again.

move on, stop hating, quit the childthink.

We need a new expression, "pain whore". Somebody who exploits terrible tragedy showing fake compassion as a means of self-promotion and also as a means of dragging down perceived adversaries, who are in fact figments of the deluded pain whore's imagination.

I get this this entirely...some of us seem like that old Jewish woman who dispairs until the day she dies...over what? We got hit real hard. We got up. We invaded a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. We ran our economy into the toilet. We certainly don't deserve any favors from anybody. Can't you think of something better to whine about than "Muslims are stealing our Sacred Ground" ?