Scott v Sink debate

Then, if he is such a crook, why isn't he in jail? Simple question...where is the simple answer?

Neither is OJ.

Excellent lawyers.

They haven't been able to convict him yet - he keeps stonewalling the investigation.

Neither is OJ.

Excellent lawyers.

The juice has been squeezed and is residing in a jail cell in nEVADA.Hopefully Harry Reid will be joining him soon.

YouTube - Never-Before-Seen Rick Scott Deposition Video

How long ago was all this? I thought the whole thing was fairly recent, but from the looks of the video, this must have been a number of years ago.

How long ago was all this? I thought the whole thing was fairly recent, but from the looks of the video, this must have been a number of years ago.

Yes, it happened back in the 90s. I think '97. His creepy demeanor hasn't changed in the least.

He is now on his SECOND fraud investigation - new company, new decade, same old Rick.

The current investigation/allegations into Medicare fraud involve Solantic which Scott started in 2001.

The old record setting Medicare fraud and fines were with Columbia/HCA in the 90s.

In all fairness, it wasn't her that caused the problem, it was an aide. Although maybe she should have had her blackberry, phone, whatever, turned off. Not the brightest move for someone running for governor as far as debate details are concerned.

I heard the lady that brought how the message from her aide was the hairdresser who came out to touch her up.

What's interesting is some of the private conversations I've had with, prominent local and state, Republicans who's skin crawls at just the mention of his name.

Can't wait to see the results of the governors race. It'll be interesting just how stupid some Floridians are.

Hint: If they voted for Rick Scott.

He is now on his SECOND fraud investigation - new company, new decade, same old Rick.

The current investigation/allegations into Medicare fraud involve Solantic which Scott started in 2001.

The old record setting Medicare fraud and fines were with Columbia/HCA in the 90s.

On that, all I found was this:

Few details emerge from suits against Rick Scott's chain of clinics - Florida - MiamiHerald.com

I believe the investigation was handed off to Health and Human Services for review because it was a federal, not state issue.

One of the allegations was that Medicare was repeatedly billed the full amount for physician visits done by nurse practitioners (instead of a physician), instead of the standard 85%.

Another was that they had them perform unnecessary tests and write unnecessary and $$ prescriptions.

I believe the investigation was handed off to Health and Human Services for review because it was a federal, not state issue.

One of the allegations was that Medicare was repeatedly billed the full amount for physician visits done by nurse practitioners (instead of a physician), instead of the standard 85%.

Another was that they had them perform unnecessary tests and write unnecessary and $$ prescriptions.

Hmm, if you find any news reports on that, please post.

Alpha Crab, this is just for you. (note the bold portion).

"No person shall be held to answer for as capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any crminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

I am making the assumption that you know what this is.

Andy A--this is just for you: Pleading the 5th once or twice I could understand in a criminal investigation.., but over 70 times!!!!....even pleading the 5th when asked if his actual, given name was "Richard L. Scott", and also pleading the fifth when he was asked simply what his position was within in his own company at the time? Did this cause you any moments of doubt?

Let us get real here, Andy--wouldn't even your wise, but uneducated father, question this guy's basic integrity?

The guy is bottom line, a scumbag--cast your vote for him if you so wish--it is a free country.

The truth would have hurt him? He's lucky he could plead the fifth; it kept him out of jail, where he belongs for committing fraud. I'm a registered Republican, but I'm not voting for this guy.

From what I gather, it seems that no one is basing their vote in this particular race on the fundamentals of either Scott or Sink. Votes are being based on values, and both of them smell a little fishy. I'm sure many people will simply stick to their party for this vote. Where is the "I vote against all candidates" button?

You know it is what it is; many times it's the choice of the lesser evil. Why is it so difficult in politics to find someone honest, intelligent & hard working, who sincerely works every day to do what is best for the constituents? Someone who has served on a few boards of publicly traded companies once told me that being a board member is not that hard as long as you pretend that John Q. Stockholder is sitting by you watching every decision that you make.

Did it ever occur to anyone that Rick Scott used the 5th because he did not wish to assist the federal government in the pursuit of a case in which they did not have any proof of his personal wrongdoing? If the federal government, with all its resources, cannot build a case, why should a witness, any witness, help their cause? When you use the 5th when asked your name, you are doing one of two things. Making a mockery of the court or showing you are not going to assist the prosecution in their efforts. Take your pick.

You know it is what it is; many times it's the choice of the lesser evil. Why is it so difficult in politics to find someone honest, intelligent & hard working, who sincerely works every day to do what is best for the constituents? Someone who has served on a few boards of publicly traded companies once told me that being a board member is not that hard as long as you pretend that John Q. Stockholder is sitting by you watching every decision that you make.

But those in politics, especially those that are not in leadership have very little say when it comes to policy. Jimmy Patronis and Marti Coley are 2 such folks. Although I like them both the issue is they will vote Party over doing what is right. Marti has taken heat in the past from the leadership for not being on board with all there policies but I don't think Jimmy has ever voted against leadership.

Did it ever occur to anyone that Rick Scott used the 5th because he did not wish to assist the federal government in the pursuit of a case in which they did not have any proof of his personal wrongdoing? If the federal government, with all its resources, cannot build a case, why should a witness, any witness, help their cause? When you use the 5th when asked your name, you are doing one of two things. Making a mockery of the court or showing you are not going to assist the prosecution in their efforts. Take your pick.

So, obstruction of justice is OK if you might get convicted? The government proved it's case that fraud was committed. Because Scott was willing to plead the fifth seventy five times, they were unable to convict him. He hid his trail very well. But even the board of directors didn't believe his innocence, did they. Why else would they fire a perfectly innocent man?

I don't get it. If any other human being on this planet took the fifth, over seventy times, you would be hollering "he's guilty of something!", but if Rick Scott does it, he's doing it as an honest protest against the government? That's a joke.

Well actually, it did occur to me that he was CEO of a company that agreed to pay over 1 billion in penalties for fraud that was committed, once again, while he was CEO. Too bad they couldn't take the fifth on that! He took the fifth to impede justice and save his own skin.

Rick Scott took the fifth to keep his sorry ass out of jail. He succeeded with regard to our legal system, and failed miserably in the court of public opinion.

But those in politics, especially those that are not in leadership have very little say when it comes to policy. Jimmy Patronis and Marti Coley are 2 such folks. Although I like them both the issue is they will vote Party over doing what is right. Marti has taken heat in the past from the leadership for not being on board with all there policies but I don't think Jimmy has ever voted against leadership.

Honesty comes to play here. They took oaths to represent their constituents, not the party or the ones that happened to vote for them. Maybe we need term limits for every position, so that instead of being re-elected, those in office are concerned with one thing only, the right thing to do for those they represent.

So, obstruction of justice is OK if you might get convicted? The government proved it's case that fraud was committed. Because Scott was willing to plead the fifth seventy five times, they were unable to convict him. He hid his trail very well. But even the board of directors didn't believe his innocence, did they. Why else would they fire a perfectly innocent man?

I don't get it. If any other human being on this planet took the fifth, over seventy times, you would be hollering "he's guilty of something!", but if Rick Scott does it, he's doing it as an honest protest against the government? That's a joke.

Glad you think our federal government, at this time, is a joke. So do I.

Besides voting for Scott because is a Republican, has anyone googled this guy and really checked him out? There is concrete, easy to find info on this guy- I am still stunned that the Florida GOP allowed him to even register Republican, much less run for office.

I don't have to google this guy- we lived in Louisville when Columbia/HCA was headquartered there. He would probably be butt-kicked to the state line if he showed up in Louisville today. His sleazy dealings were the headlines for months. Then lucky Nashville- they got him.

I understand if people do not like Alex Sink's politics or policies, but you can't say that she is a dishonest person. But even more important, you can't say that Rick Scott is honest.

Honesty comes to play here. They took oaths to represent their constituents, not the party or the ones that happened to vote for them. Maybe we need term limits for every position, so that instead of being re-elected, those in office are concerned with one thing only, the right thing to do for those they represent.

This is Marti's last term representing her District because of Term Limits. I think it may be Jimmys also. She has served longer because she was appointed to fill her husband uncompleted term. If you believe that they are going to do the right for their Districts, then you really need to look at the money trail during their first run at office and then look at the change over time. I also believe all State office holders have term limits.