No on Class Size amendment
Yes on 5 and 6
No on 4
No on 1
Comander
Grimes
Sink
Gelber
Putnum
Atwater, not real happy about this one
Evers, not real happy about this one
Crist
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63Beach Fanatic
Nothing changes. Conservatives only care about money, theirs.
So the opposite is a Liberal that only cares about other people's money?
SoWal Insider
So the opposite is a Liberal that only cares about other people's money?
You beat me to it.

SWGB
Nobody wants their vote negated by another. It's natural to be frustrated. The majority will voice themselves through their vote.
If it's close then we're probably on the right track. If it goes one way in a landslide then I hope the tone changes and everyone comes together.
Hmm, too bad the Republicans and Tea Baggers didn't feel that way when Obama was elected. They slammed the door and became the party of NO!
SoWal Insider
Hmm, too bad the Republicans and Tea Baggers didn't feel that way when Obama was elected. They slammed the door and became the party of NO!
Which is exactly what the democrats did in 2006. Is it fair for one to suffer whatever one has caused others to suffer?
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Beach Fanatic
So the opposite is a Liberal that only cares about other people's money?
You were very close
.... "cares about other people. (period)SWGB
Which is exactly what the democrats did in 2006. Is it fair for one to suffer whatever one has caused others to suffer?
Well it was different situations, the former was to stop a President who was hell bent on nuclear war. The latter was to stop poor people from getting needed health care and to stop an economic collapse.
I can sleep at night after voting, can you?
SoWal Insider
Well it was different situations, the former was to stop a President who was hell bent on nuclear war. The latter was to stop poor people from getting needed health care and to stop an economic collapse.
I can sleep at night after voting, can you?
I seem to remember quite a few bills, like the freddie and fannie regulation bills, that had nothing to do with nuclear war.
Generally I haven't slept well in two years, but me thinks I'm going to get a good nights rest tomorrow!

SoWal Insider
Beach Lover
Nobody wants their vote negated by another. It's natural to be frustrated. The majority will voice themselves through their vote.This would be nice but I feel many are just so bent on destroying one man without regard for bettering the USA.
If it's close then we're probably on the right track. If it goes one way in a landslide then I hope the tone changes and everyone comes together.
Voters take your cameras to the polls tomorrow to take photos in case their are any disturbances.
Beach Fanatic
This would be nice but I feel many are just so bent on destroying one man without regard for bettering the USA.
Voters take your cameras to the polls tomorrow to take photos in case their are any disturbances.
We were told that no one is allowed to take photos inside the polls.
Beach Fanatic
Whose rule is this? Whqt authority?
Beach Fanatic
So the opposite is a Liberal that only cares about other people's money?...And how they want to use it.
Beach Fanatic
Whose rule is this? Whqt authority?
Not sure about the rule or authority, but I know it has not been allowed in Walton County for a number of years. I asked the supervisor of elections about it and he said it is not allowed anywhere in Florida. Apparently some states do allow photographs to be taken in the polls under certain conditions.
Beach Fanatic
Well it was different situations, the former was to stop a President who was hell bent on nuclear war. The latter was to stop poor people from getting needed health care and to stop an economic collapse.You bet I can sleep. I know I have, at the least cancelled out one vote of sheer stupidlity and absolute nonsense. This business of what one does with their money in ridiculous. Conservatives donate just as much as Liberals to worthy causes. What are you now, 30? Only 10 more years to go.
I can sleep at night after voting, can you?
Beach Fanatic
I am sure you would be able to take photos outside the polls. I cannot fathom any reason for not being able to do so.
Beach Fanatic
I am sure you would be able to take photos outside the polls. I cannot fathom any reason for not being able to do so.
That is correct. I took the first post on this to mean taking photographs inside the polls, and I did not want them to risk being removed for doing that.
SoWal Expert
Why in the world would there be disturbances at the Sowal polls?
You must be 18 years old to vote - it would be nice if people acted that old!
You must be 18 years old to vote - it would be nice if people acted that old!
Beach Fanatic
That is correct. I took the first post on this to mean taking photographs inside the polls, and I did not want them to risk being removed for doing that.
no photos:
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/rules/adopted-rules/pdf/1S2034_PollingPlaceProcedureManual.pdf
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SoWal Insider
To change the tone just a little, John Stockman, Reagan's budget director, said on 60 Minutes that tax cuts were a form of insanity, that he was embarrassed by the outright demagogery of the Republican Party as to it's insistence on telling people that tax cuts are good for us. And that the top 5 percent of wealthy people in America have a net worth of 40 trillion dollars. I was wondering what the current Republican response would be to these facts.
SoWal Insider
To change the tone just a little, John Stockman, Reagan's budget director, said on 60 Minutes that tax cuts were a form of insanity, that he was embarrassed by the outright demagogery of the Republican Party as to it's insistence on telling people that tax cuts are good for us. And that the top 5 percent of wealthy people in America have a net worth of 40 trillion dollars. I was wondering what the current Republican response would be to these facts.
As my Daddy said, "Do you believe everything you hear?" Don't go changin~~~~~~~~~
SoWal Insider
As my Daddy said, "Do you believe everything you hear?" Don't go changin~~~~~~~~~
This was from Reagan's budget director, the architect of the biggest tax cut in the history of this country. Does he have a good reason to declare that he was really wrong?
SoWal Insider
This was from Reagan's budget director, the architect of the biggest tax cut in the history of this country. Does he have a good reason to declare that he was really wrong?
Cutting taxes has become ?in a sense, an absolute ? something embedded into the catechism? of the GOP, Stockman tells Lesley Stahl. ?Scratch the average Republican today, and he?ll say ?tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts.? ?
Stockman brands that approach ?rank demagoguery.?
?If these people were all put in a room on penalty of death to come up with how much they could cut, they couldn?t come up with $50 billion, when the problem is $1.3 trillion,? Stockman complains. ?So to stand before the public and rub raw this anti-tax sentiment, the Republican Party, as much as it pains me to say this, they should be ashamed of themselves.?
But Stockman says the Democrats are going the same route and cites the example of President Barack Obama advocating a permanent tax cut for the middle class.
?We have now got both parties essentially telling a big lie with a capital B and a capital L to the public,? Stockman tells Stahl. ?And that is that we can have all this government, 24 percent of GDP, this huge entitlement program, all of the bailouts and yet, we don?t have to tax ourselves and pay our bills. That?s delusional.?
He had quite a bit to say about tax cuts in general. I agree with him on one thing, which is highlighted. We need bold leaders that can be honest with the american people, we can't have it both ways. If we want all this 'free' stuff, everybody has to pay for it. That includes the rich, the poor, and the middle class. Only then can we make an honest assessment about wether or not we honestly feel we need it.
SoWal Insider
He had quite a bit to say about tax cuts in general. I agree with him on one thing, which is highlighted. We need bold leaders that can be honest with the american people, we can't have it both ways. If we want all this 'free' stuff, everybody has to pay for it. That includes the rich, the poor, and the middle class. Only then can we make an honest assessment about wether or not we honestly feel we need it.
Then, you will agree that the tax cuts implemented by Bush need to cease. Am I correct? And do you also understand what he further said about the top 5% of the rich people in the US have 40 trillion dollars worth of assets, way more than the other 95% combined. Do you think this is healthy for the economy? Do you not think that the uber-rich should be taxed just a little bit more, to , at least, help pay for the wars their administration initiated?
SoWal Insider
He had quite a bit to say about tax cuts in general. I agree with him on one thing, which is highlighted. We need bold leaders that can be honest with the american people, we can't have it both ways. If we want all this 'free' stuff, everybody has to pay for it. That includes the rich, the poor, and the middle class. Only then can we make an honest assessment about wether or not we honestly feel we need it.i disagree. let those folks pay according to their ability. our nation's wealth is controlled by a narrow segment of the few.
SoWal Insider
Then, you will agree that the tax cuts implemented by Bush need to cease. Am I correct? And do you also understand what he further said about the top 5% of the rich people in the US have 40 trillion dollars worth of assets, way more than the other 95% combined. Do you think this is healthy for the economy? Do you not think that the uber-rich should be taxed just a little bit more, to , at least, help pay for the wars their administration initiated?
I don't know if the 40 trillion number is accurate, so I can't say.
I think if we are going to keep spending the amount we currently are, we all need to be taxed, A LOT MORE. The current situation is unsustainable. A 1.3 trillion deficit is not going to be fixed by raising the top marginal rate 3%. 1.3 trillion is just shy of the total amount the U.S. government takes in from everyone through income taxes, which is about 1.1 trillion.
So, since you shouldn't be making these decisions for anyone but yourself, would you be willing to accept an effective federal income tax rate double your current rate to fix things? (Assuming you have income sufficient to actually warrent paying federal taxes under the current tax code. Which isn't to imply anything, but it's an important distriction since some folks don't really pay all that much tax under our progressive income tax structure.)
To answer the question myself, I wouldn't. If withdrawing from Iraq more swiftly and accepting defeat in Afghanistan is a necessary evil to prevent it, I'll accept the outcome. Although I would hope we could omehow avoid declaring defeat.
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