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Healthcare Reform Repeal Vote Scheduled

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One campaign promise down for the GOP..

House Republicans will vote next Wednesday, Jan. 12, to repeal the new health care law, making good on a top-tier GOP campaign promise and setting up a showdown with President Barack Obama over his signature domestic policy achievement. The repeal effort is not expected to succeed, given that Democrats maintain control of the Senate and the president can veto the legislation, but Republicans also plan to chip away at pieces of the law over the long term.

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30ashopper avatar
30ashopperSoWal Insider
#27
Ten months ago, Democrats used a partisan majority to narrowly defeat bipartisan opposition and pass a national health-care program that a majority of the public opposed and continues to oppose today. Gallup reported yesterday that Americans favor repeal, 46% to 40%. Among the worst Democratic abuses was gaming the CBO's budget conventions to make it seem as if ObamaCare "saves" money.

The accounting gimmicks are legion, but we'll pick out a few: It uses 10 years of taxes to fund six years of subsidies. Social Security and Medicare revenues are double-counted to the tune of $398 billion. A new program funding long-term care frontloads taxes but backloads spending, gradually going broke by design. The law pretends that Congress will spend less on Medicare than it really will, in particular through an automatic 25% cut to physician payments that Democrats have already voted not to allow for this year.


Review & Outlook: ObamaCare's Reality Deficit - WSJ.com

Budget gimmicks and shell games.
Beach Runner avatar
Beach Runnerbeats on hood
#28
The healthcare reform law is a mess. That being said, I don't want it to be repealed because what happens to people who can't get insurance due to pre-existing conditions? And thanks to "ObamaCare," children can stay on their parents' insurance until they are 26. Thanks to the bad economy, many college grads can't get a job (and group insurance). So ObamaCare saves families a lot of money. COBRA is very expensive.
30ashopper avatar
30ashopperSoWal Insider
#29
The healthcare reform law is a mess. That being said, I don't want it to be repealed because what happens to people who can't get insurance due to pre-existing conditions? And thanks to "ObamaCare," children can stay on their parents' insurance until they are 26. Thanks to the bad economy, many college grads can't get a job (and group insurance). So ObamaCare saves families a lot of money. COBRA is very expensive.

I doubt the law will be repealed. Obama will veto anything that comes his way so, for two years at least it won't happen. I think it's safe to say that in addition to the current big name reform fights - Medicare and Social Security, we can now add a third - ObamaCare reform.

The thing that concerns me - based on what we've seen thus far the tax increases and spending reductions that brought the cost of this thing under a trillion over it's first ten years will likely not be implemented. Which means we can expect an ever worsening fiscal situation in Washington as this thing rolls out. :idontno: What can you do!
beachmouse avatar
beachmouseBeach Fanatic
#30
Boehner has said that no legislation will go before the House next week out of respect for Gabrielle Giffords and those who died in Arizona today.

I suspect the tone of things will be a little different when they reconvene.

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BeachSiO2 avatar
BeachSiO2Beach FanaticAuthor
#32
Voting update...

House Republicans are set to vote Wednesday on repeal of the healthcare law, keeping a central campaign pledge while delivering an opening salvo in what will likely be a two-year battle with President Obama.

The vote to roll back Democrats? signature domestic achievement of the 111th Congress is scheduled to occur some time after 5 p.m., and both Republicans and Democrats held closed-door meetings Wednesday morning to hone their final arguments.
scooterbug44 avatar
scooterbug44SoWal Expert
#33
I hope it doesn't pass and remains just for show.

While the bill is imperfect, it does help a lot of Americans and makes some much needed changes/reforms.

IMO Boehner just hates it because it taxes tanning beds. :lol:
AndrewG avatar
AndrewGBeach Fanatic
#34
Funny how everyone agrees it's crap bill. Repeal it and rewrite it. Obama is going to be all alone if he's forced to block the repeal if it passes the House and the Senate.
BeachSiO2 avatar
BeachSiO2Beach FanaticAuthor
#35
Senator Reid said it won't come to a vote so I doubt it makes it to Obama. The one problem I have is that you have Boehner saying we need to repeal the bill, but is unwilling to put a schedule out for replacement of some of the things that all (or almost all) agree are needed. Here are his thoughts...

?I don?t know that we need artificial deadlines set up for the committees,? Boehner told reporters. ?We expect them to act in a official way, allowing all of their members on their committees to be heard ? Democrats and Republicans.?
IMO, real leadership is to repeal and then have replacement bills in the queue to fix some of the existing problems (like existing conditions exclusions- pun intended). Not to say in essence, we will repeal and then wait days, weeks, months to fix the problems.
poppyBanned
#36
Funny how everyone agrees it's crap bill. Repeal it and rewrite it. Obama is going to be all alone if he's forced to block the repeal if it passes the House and the Senate.


You and who else?

Bill Frist believes it is a foundation to build on and shouldn't be repealed and it seems many Americans are coming around and ignoring the Republican BS.


First Read - NBC/WSJ poll: Public divided on health law and repeal

The poll also finds that 46 percent of respondents are opposed to repeal (with 34 percent strongly opposed), while 45 percent support the repeal effort (with 35 percent strongly in favor).
scooterbug44 avatar
scooterbug44SoWal Expert
#37
Funny how everyone agrees it's crap bill. Repeal it and rewrite it. Obama is going to be all alone if he's forced to block the repeal if it passes the House and the Senate.

I didn't say it was crap, I said it wasn't perfect - which most legislation isn't - and that no BETTER solution had been presented.
30ashopper avatar
30ashopperSoWal Insider
#38
The repeal vote is just symbolic. The real work begins as they start to negotiate other legislation. If Obama wants to get anything done over the next four or maybe even six years he'll have to agree to curtail the largess of ObamaCare. The House has him over a barrel. It'll only get worse for him in two years as republicans will likely take control of the Senate as well.
Geo avatar
GeoBeach Fanatic
#39
The repeal vote is just symbolic. The real work begins as they start to negotiate other legislation. If Obama wants to get anything done over the next four or maybe even six years he'll have to agree to curtail the largess of ObamaCare. The House has him over a barrel. It'll only get worse for him in two years as republicans will likely take control of the Senate as well.

Shirley, you jest.

No one knows election outcomes two years down the road. Would you have predicted what happened in November just two years ago? Or what happened two years ago two years before that?

2 years in politics is like 12 hockey seasons. In that amount of time the Mighty Ducks have time to build a dynasty.
GoodWitch58Beach Fanatic
#40
Senator Reid said it won't come to a vote so I doubt it makes it to Obama. The one problem I have is that you have Boehner saying we need to repeal the bill, but is unwilling to put a schedule out for replacement of some of the things that all (or almost all) agree are needed. Here are his thoughts...

IMO, real leadership is to repeal and then have replacement bills in the queue to fix some of the existing problems (like existing conditions exclusions- pun intended). Not to say in essence, we will repeal and then wait days, weeks, months to fix the problems.


I somewhat agree; although I think that real leadership would be to take the portions they genuinely have an issue with; draft up new proposals and present those as replacement...before they grandstand with an offensive bill title and saying they are having this vote "because we promised we would". I think what they promised was to do something about the portions of the bill people have a problem with...not just to have a vote for the sake of having a vote. Real leadership IMO is actually taking a principled stand on an issue and working it through the system...

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