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...I am huge college football fanatic. I get it bad this time every year. ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!...

With your avatar, I find your fanaticism about college football rather suprising. :floor: I hear that there is a good reason as to why elephants have tough skin... they need it to help buffer the ridicule from other SEC fans.

With your avatar, I find your fanaticism about college football rather suprising. :floor: I hear that there is a good reason as to why elephants have tough skin... they need it to help buffer the ridicule from other SEC fans.

Yes, you gotta have tough skin, especially the way things have gone for us the last few years. Hey, but I have tough skin. (I think I am gonna need it, yet again!)

Well Kurt,

Look at that. . . the Vols are ranked WAY ahead of the Gators. Sadly the Utes are not ranked--maybe Urban Meyer should have stayed out West. I'm sure if he begs hard enough, they'll give him his old job back. :lol:

Well Kurt,

Look at that. . . the Vols are ranked WAY ahead of the Gators. Sadly the Utes are not ranked--maybe Urban Meyer should have stayed out West. I'm sure if he begs hard enough, they'll give him his old job back. :lol:

Look at what? :idontno:

With your avatar, I find your fanaticism about college football rather suprising. :floor: I hear that there is a good reason as to why elephants have tough skin... they need it to help buffer the ridicule from other SEC fans.

Envy, JOe, pure envy. We may have been a bit down the last few years, but the rest of the league still has a LONG way to go to catch up with what we have accomplished in 113 years of playing football.

So ridicule away, big boy :nono1:

South Carolina: The Palmetto State
Florida: The Sunshine State
Missouri: The Show Me State
Alabama: The Wait 'Til Next Year State

South Carolina: The Palmetto State
Florida: The Sunshine State
Missouri: The Show Me State
Alabama: The Wait 'Til Next Year State

Care to put a little wager on the Bama/UF game this year? Put your money where your mouth is, Kurt. ;-)

If I remember correctly, the last time the two teams met, Bama laid some major wood to the Gayters - for the second time in the same season.

Care to put a little wager on the Bama/UF game this year? Put your money where your mouth is, Kurt. ;-)

If I remember correctly, the last time the two teams met, Bama laid some major wood to the Gayters - for the second time in the same season.

Remind me. Which century did that take place?

I don't gamble money. What else you got?

A few rounds of drinks, perhaps? I'll be in Sandestin the weekend of October 14 - two weeks after the game.

And it was only six years ago, Kurt. The two teams haven't played since. UF ain't exactly set the world on fire during that period, either.

Envy, JOe, pure envy. We may have been a bit down the last few years, but the rest of the league still has a LONG way to go to catch up with what we have accomplished in 113 years of playing football.

So ridicule away, big boy :nono1:

So after 113 years of football, you guys are not really interested in playing to win? :nono1:

So after 113 years of football, you guys are not really interested in playing to win? :nono1:

I think you know that isn't true. What a ridiculous statement :roll:

I think you know that isn't true. What a ridiculous statement :roll:

JB, relax, I don't even keep up with football anymore -- just trying to see the level of devotion you fans have toward your school. I am still curious though, how UA came up with an elephant for a mascot, and shouldn't the tag line be something like, "charge," instead of roll tide? Afterall, we are talking about elephants.

For you AU folks, what is up with the dual mascots, Tiger and Eagle? :idontno: I just don't understand. Tigers and Elephants are not even native to this area, although the Wooly Mammoth was very long ago. At least UF and UGA, okay, GT too, have mascots that are found in great numbers in each state.

Is it football season yet?

For you AU folks, what is up with the dual mascots, Tiger and Eagle?

Three maybe even :idontno: . In the past, occasionaly referred to as the "plainsmen." I think that's like a "hokie" or is it homey. 😀

Speaking of Gator Fans, I just saw a baby gator about 4.5 ft long near Gulf Trace. If you have any small pet fish in that area, lookout.

Speaking of Gator Fans, I just saw a baby gator about 4.5 ft long over near Gulf Trace. If you have any small pet fish in that area, lookout.

That's one smart gator....he heard about the septic tanks over there and made a mad dash...good eatin'!

Three maybe even :idontno: . In the past, occasionaly referred to as the "plainsmen." I think that's like a "hokie" or is it homey. 😀

*sighs*

Auburn's nickname is the Tigers.

Auburn's battle cry is "WAR EAGLE!"

Through the years, these two Auburn terms have often been used interchangeably and incorrectly. There are hats and T-shirts with Auburn War Eagles on them. Even the news media has been known to refer to an Auburn team as the War Eagles or to an Auburn player as a War Eagle. In fact, when the Tigers play a game on the road, there is often an article written in the local paper wondering why Auburn has three nicknames..the Auburn Tigers, the Auburn War Eagles and the Auburn Plainsmen.

To set the record straight, Auburn has only one nickname..the Auburn Tigers. "War Eagle" is a battle cry, used by Auburn fans,in the same manner Alabama fans yell "Roll Tide!" and Arkansas fans yell "Sooie Pig!"
You never hear Alabama referred to as the 'Alabama Roll Tides' or Arkansas as the 'Arkansas Sooie Pigs' and to call Auburn teams the 'Auburn War Eagles'
would be just as incorrect.

The battle cry "War Eagle" should never have an "s" on the end of it.

The nickname "Tigers" comes from a line in Oliver Goldsmith's poem, "The Deserted Village," published in May 1770, "where crouching tigers wait their hapless prey..."

The term "Plainsmen" comes from a line in that same Goldsmith poem, "Sweet Auburn, loveliest (sic) village of the plain..."

Since Auburn athletes were, in the early days, men from the Plains, it was only natural for newspaper headline writers to shorten that to "Plainsmen."

It may be confusing to an outsider, but to Auburn people, it is very simple. That's why War Eagle VI, Auburn's golden eagle symbol, is named Tiger! :lol:


And now you have..the rest of the story..

*sighs*

Auburn's nickname is the Tigers.

Auburn's battle cry is "WAR EAGLE!"

Through the years, these two Auburn terms have often been used interchangeably and incorrectly. There are hats and T-shirts with Auburn War Eagles on them. Even the news media has been known to refer to an Auburn team as the War Eagles or to an Auburn player as a War Eagle. In fact, when the Tigers play a game on the road, there is often an article written in the local paper wondering why Auburn has three nicknames..the Auburn Tigers, the Auburn War Eagles and the Auburn Plainsmen.

To set the record straight, Auburn has only one nickname..the Auburn Tigers. "War Eagle" is a battle cry, used by Auburn fans,in the same manner Alabama fans yell "Roll Tide!" and Arkansas fans yell "Sooie Pig!"
You never hear Alabama referred to as the 'Alabama Roll Tides' or Arkansas as the 'Arkansas Sooie Pigs' and to call Auburn teams the 'Auburn War Eagles'
would be just as incorrect.

The battle cry "War Eagle" should never have an "s" on the end of it.

The nickname "Tigers" comes from a line in Oliver Goldsmith's poem, "The Deserted Village," published in May 1770, "where crouching tigers wait their hapless prey..."

The term "Plainsmen" comes from a line in that same Goldsmith poem, "Sweet Auburn, loveliest (sic) village of the plain..."

Since Auburn athletes were, in the early days, men from the Plains, it was only natural for newspaper headline writers to shorten that to "Plainsmen."

It may be confusing to an outsider, but to Auburn people, it is very simple. That's why War Eagle VI, Auburn's golden eagle symbol, is named Tiger! :lol:


And now you have..the rest of the story..

Wow, not that is helpful, but it is still weird that Tigers would have a battle cry "War Eagle." Is that some sort of verb used by Plainsmen?"

As I mentioned the whole Elephants and Roll Tide seems just as silly.

Look to the Univ of Georgia to set the example. Their mascot is the Dawgs (spelled funny due in hopes to show people the importance of going to school?), and their battle cry is Sick 'Em Dawgs! You get it? It actually ties to the mascot, and is something that the Dawgs can do. No matter how you slice it, a Tiger cannot War Eagle, and an Elephant cannot Roll Tide. However, a Dawg can always Sick 'Em!:idontno: I guess I will always think the AU and UA mascot/battle cry as being awkward.

Joe, there is a story behind "War Eagle"..do you REALLY want me to waste bandwidth??? :laughing1 Suuuure ya do: Linkage here

Conversely, I know the story behind 'Crimson Tide' and the elephant mascot, because *small voice* both my parents are graduates of Alabama.

Yes, I am the black sheep tiger war eagle plainsman in the family. :cool:

Speaking of Gator Fans, I just saw a baby gator about 4.5 ft long near Gulf Trace. If you have any small pet fish in that area, lookout.

I spotted a gator yesterday at Blue Orleans. Gator was playing some mean blues piano.

On the other hand, I did not see a Gator sticker on Kurt's vehicle on the beach yesterday.

Joe, there is a story behind "War Eagle"..do you REALLY want me to waste bandwidth??? :laughing1 Suuuure ya do: Linkage here

Conversely, I know the story behind 'Crimson Tide' and the elephant mascot, because *small voice* both my parents are graduates of Alabama.

Yes, I am the black sheep tiger war eagle plainsman in the family. :cool:

Of all the potential origins for the War Eagle, I like the first one the best. However, since the origin is unknown, I am still left with a big question mark.

Just think Tiggers, Heffalumps and Woozles. 😀

Conversely, I know the story behind 'Crimson Tide' and the elephant mascot, because *small voice* both my parents are graduates of Alabama.

"Strupper and other writers continued to refer to the Alabama linemen as "Red Elephants," the color referring to the crimson jerseys."

:floor::floor::floor:Lookout, here come the Univ. of Alabama Red Elephants! :floor::laughing1Sounds way to awkward. So any guess on where or when Crimson Tide or Roll Tide came about?

CRIMSON WHAT?
In the program's earlier days, the Tide was called the varsity or the Crimson White after the school's colors. The Tide's first nickname was the The Thin Red Line. The name was used until 1906, and then the era of 'The Crimson Tide began. The name was supposedly first used by Hugh Roberts, the former editor of the Birmingham Age-Herald. He used the term when describing an Alabama-Auburn game played in Birmingham in 1907, which was the last match-up between the teams until 1948. The game was played in a sea of mud and Auburn was the favorite to win. Bama held Auburn to a 6-6 tie and later gained the name Crimson Tide. The tradition of the name, Crimson Tide was probably popularized by former Birmingham News editor, Zipp Newman.



ALABAMA: NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS
Coach</FONT> Year</FONT> Wins</FONT> Losses</FONT> TiesWallace Wade1925</FONT> 11</FONT> 0</FONT> 0 </FONT>Wallace Wade</FONT> 1926901Wallace Wade 19301000Frank Thomas 19341000Frank Thomas 1941920Paul "Bear" Bryant19611100Paul "Bear" Bryant19641010Paul "Bear" Bryant1965911Paul "Bear" Bryant19731110Paul "Bear" Bryant19781110Paul "Bear" Bryant19791200Gene Stallings 19921300 BOWL RECORDS 1926-2003</FONT> 1926 Rose - Alabama 20, Wash 19
1927 Rose - Alabama 7, Stanford 7
1931 Rose - Alabama 24, Wash State 0
1935 Rose - Alabama 29, Stanford 13
1938 Rose - California 13, Alabama 0
1942 Cotton - Alabama 29, Texas A&M 21
1943 Orange - Alabama 37, Boston Col 21
1945 Sugar - Duke 29, Alabama 26
1946 Rose - Alabama 34, Southern Cal 14
1948 Sugar - Texas 27, Alabama 7
1953 Orange - Alabama 61, Syracuse 6
1954 Cotton - Rice 28, Alabama 6
1959 Liberty - Penn State 7, Alabama 0
1960 Bluebonnet - Alabama 3, Texas 3
1962 Sugar - Alabama 10, Arkansas 3
1963 Orange - Alabama 17, Okla 10
1964 Sugar - Alabama 12, Mississippi 7
1965 Orange - Texas 21, Alabama 17
1966 Orange - Alabama 39, Nebraska 28
1967 Sugar - Alabama 34, Nebraska 7
1968 Gator - Missouri 35, Alabama 10
1969 Liberty - Colorado 47, Alabama 33
1970 Bluebonnet - Alabama 24, Okla 24
1972 Orange - Nebraska 38, Alabama 6
1973 Cotton - Texas 17, Alabama 13
</FONT>1973 Sugar - Notre Dame 24, Alabama 23
1975 Orange - Notre Dame 13, Ala 11
1975 Sugar - Alabama 13, Penn State 6
1976 Liberty - Alabama 36, UCLA 6
1978 Sugar - Alabama 35, Ohio State 6
1979 Sugar - Alabama 14, Penn State 7
1980 Sugar - Alabama 24, Arkansas 9
1981 Cotton - Alabama 30, Baylor 2
1982 Cotton - Texas 14, Alabama 12
1982 Liberty - Alabama 21, Illinois 15
1983 Sun - Alabama 28, SMU 7
1985 Aloha - Alabama 24, Southern Cal 7
1986 Sun - Alabama 28, Washington 6
1988 Hall of Fame - Michigan 28, Ala 24
1988 Sun - Alabama 29, Army 28
1990 Sugar - Miami 33, Alabama 25
1991 Fiesta - Louisville 34, Alabama 7
1991 Blockbuster - Ala 30, Colorado 25
1993 Sugar - Alabama 34, Miami 13
1993 Gator - Alabama 24, North Carolina 10
1995 Citrus - Alabama 24, Ohio State 17
1997 Outback - Alabama 17, Michigan 14
1998 Music City - Virg Tech 38, Alabama 7
2000 Orange - Michigan 35, Alabama 34
2001 Independence - Iowa St 13, Alabama 14</FONT> ALL-TIME COACHING RECORDS AT ALABAMA Coach</FONT> Year</FONT> Wins</FONT> Losses</FONT> E.B. Beaumont1892 2 2 Eli Abbott1893-96, 19021015Allen McCants1897-189813W.A. Martin189931M. Griffin190023M. H. Harvey190121W.B. Blount1903-1904107Jack Leavenworth190564J.W. H. Pollard1906-190945Guy Lowman191044D.V. Graves1911-19142112Thomas Kelly1915-1917177Xen C. Scott1919-1922299Wallace Wade1923-19306113Frank Thomas1931-194611524H.D. Drew1947-19545428J.B. Whitworth1955-1957424Paul W. Bryant1958-198223246Ray Perkins1983-19863215Bill Curry1987-19892610Gene Stallings (incl. NCAA penalty)1990-19966225Mike Dubose1997-20002423Dennis Franchione2001-2002178Mike Shula2003-20051015ALL TIME TOTALS</FONT>748304

WHERE DID THE ELEPHANT MASCOT COME FROM?</FONT>The tale goes back to the Tide's 1930 season when the Tide had an impressive 10-0 record and shut out eight opponents and allowed only 13 points all season while scoring 217points themselves record under Coach Wallace Wade.

Atlanta Journal sports writer Everett Strupper wrote about the Alabama-Mississippi game that he had witnessed four day earlier in Tuscaloosa. "That Alabama team of 1930 is a typical Wade machine, powerful, big, tough, fast and aggressive, well-schooled in fundamentals, and the best blocking team for this early in the season that I have ever seen. When those big brutes hit you I mean you go down and stay down, often for an additional two minutes.

"Coach Wade started his second team that was plenty big and they went right to their knitting scoring a touchdown in the first quarter against one of the best fighting small lines that I have seen. For Ole Miss was truly battling the big boys for every inch of the ground."At the end of the quarter, the earth started to tremble, there was a distant rumble that continued to grow. Some excited fan in the stands bellowed, 'Hold your horses, the elephants are coming,' and out stamped this Alabama varsity. "It was the first time that I had seen it and the size of the entire eleven nearly knocked me cold, men that I had seen play last year looking like they had nearly doubled in size." Across the country, the Alabama linemen became known as the "Red Elephants."

That's one smart gator....he heard about the septic tanks over there and made a mad dash...good eatin'!

Easssy... ;-)

Easssy... ;-)

Moondance, nothing like a little motivation to get them folks moving, eh?
Sic 'em Gators! You can borrow the Sic 'em part until the season starts shortly.