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#3002
Trump's slurred speech has been determined to be tied to low battery in Putin's remote.

Sarah Huckabee Sanders said that Trump’s slurred speech was “a case of what happens when President Putin doesn’t change the batteries in his remote frequently enough.” (Andy Borowitz, Satirist)
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#3003
You're assuming the intel community was in on some sort of conspiracy and that they favored the Dems. Give me a break.

I don't know and neither do you, but we have come this far, we might as well know how this got started in the first place.
Bob Wells avatar
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#3004
I don't know and neither do you, but we have come this far, we might as well know how this got started in the first place.
Unfortunately I can't say I trust anyone to tell the truth. Kind of like the Mueller report and everyone's take.
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SoWal Insider
#3005
Unfortunately I can't say I trust anyone to tell the truth. Kind of like the Mueller report and everyone's take.
That’s exactly what Trump and Putin want. If you people can’t see that there is an orchestrated campaign to destabilize all our institutions of law, then you are are just sadly naive and/or brainwashed.
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#3006
I don't know and neither do you, but we have come this far, we might as well know how this got started in the first place.
You sound like Joe Rogan embracing the moon landing conspiracies. Just believe something because it hasn't been disproven. I'd expect that way of thinking from a five year old.
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#3007
That’s exactly what Trump and Putin want. If you people can’t see that there is an orchestrated campaign to destabilize all our institutions of law, then you are are just sadly naive and/or brainwashed.
I don't believe I am naive or brainwashed. What I have is healthy skepticism. I didn't buy into the idea of the Clinton Conspiracies and allowed all the investigations to work their way through before determining where I stood. For the most part that did not change how I felt about Secretary Clinton. I also have issues with President Trump but it started before the accusation of collusion. I think personally that the President is as shady as a 500 year old oak tree and because he says one thing "release the report" and then says something different " Leave it to AG Barr" can lead me to conclude that there is fire cause I can see smoke. Unfortunately, I have very little confidence in Congress or the Political Appointees of President to lay out the truth. I also refuse to wear the tin hat of conspiracy theorists and hope that at sometime in the future, near preferably, the truth comes out. I will say this, with all the attacks by this administration on those in our Intelligence Community, Military Leadership and National Law Enforcement, I still have confidence in their ability to do their jobs. It is the vetting of reports that come through the politicians that concern me.
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SoWal Insider
#3008
I don't believe I am naive or brainwashed. What I have is healthy skepticism. I didn't buy into the idea of the Clinton Conspiracies and allowed all the investigations to work their way through before determining where I stood. For the most part that did not change how I felt about Secretary Clinton. I also have issues with President Trump but it started before the accusation of collusion. I think personally that the President is as shady as a 500 year old oak tree and because he says one thing "release the report" and then says something different " Leave it to AG Barr" can lead me to conclude that there is fire cause I can see smoke. Unfortunately, I have very little confidence in Congress or the Political Appointees of President to lay out the truth. I also refuse to wear the tin hat of conspiracy theorists and hope that at sometime in the future, near preferably, the truth comes out. I will say this, with all the attacks by this administration on those in our Intelligence Community, Military Leadership and National Law Enforcement, I still have confidence in their ability to do their jobs. It is the vetting of reports that come through the politicians that concern me.
Just to let you know, Bob, I wasn't directing this at you personally. I was talking about the general "you" (Trumpsters). You have always been a sane rational voice in the wilderness.
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#3009
Just to let you know, Bob, I wasn't directing this at you personally. I was talking about the general "you" (Trumpsters). You have always been a sane rational voice in the wilderness.
Not sure about sane.
Bob Wells avatar
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#3010
This is the kind of transparency I am talking about and feel that is important. I know there is a segment who believe Special Counsel Mueller is part of the problem where I see him as part of the solution. Whether anyone believes Special Counsel Starr was an asset, I personally believe he was, even if it did nothing than build a case for future generations and accountability for other Presidents.
Michael Flynn's case could prompt release of some redacted parts of Mueller report - CNNPolitics
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#3011
Why haven't the Dems subpoenaed the one guy that can give them the definitive answers that they have been wanting for the last two years? I'm talking Bob Mueller? WHY??

Cant wait for the name calling (stupid, Fox News watcher, dumb) and the contortions to make it Trump's fault.

Dems control the House. They could have already called Mueller in.
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#3012
Why haven't the Dems subpoenaed the one guy that can give them the definitive answers that they have been wanting for the last two years? I'm talking Bob Mueller? WHY??

Cant wait for the name calling (stupid, Fox News watcher, dumb) and the contortions to make it Trump's fault.

Dems control the House. They could have already called Mueller in.
Because they would like to read the full un-redacted report first so they can better prepare their questions, but president* Most Transparent is keeping it locked away. Gee, I wonder why?:scratching:
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#3013
Why haven't the Dems subpoenaed the one guy that can give them the definitive answers that they have been wanting for the last two years? I'm talking Bob Mueller? WHY??

Cant wait for the name calling (stupid, Fox News watcher, dumb) and the contortions to make it Trump's fault.

Dems control the House. They could have already called Mueller in.

Sounds like they are trying to agree how he will testify. In my opinion he should testify publicly and anything less is a cop out. Seeing how AG Barr appears to have cleared the way, and if they can't come to an agreement on his testimony, he should then be compelled.
Why Mueller may be fighting a public hearing on Capitol Hill
carson avatar
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#3014
You sound like Joe Rogan embracing the moon landing conspiracies. Just believe something because it hasn't been disproven. I'd expect that way of thinking from a five year old.

No conspiracy theory, full transparency. I would have Mueller and Steele testify along with Carter Page and Papadopoulos. The timing on all of this is highly suspect as is the whole Crossfire Hurricane investigation.

I would just like to know how the whole thing was started in the first place. Let the chips fall where they may. I think that there was collusion and I think that we are witnessing the obstruction. I think people would like to see if the whole mess was organic or set up and if so by whom. The focus is on the What and I want to know the Why.
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#3015
No conspiracy theory, full transparency. I would have Mueller and Steele testify along with Carter Page and Papadopoulos. The timing on all of this is highly suspect as is the whole Crossfire Hurricane investigation.

I would just like to know how the whole thing was started in the first place. Let the chips fall where they may. I think that there was collusion and I think that we are witnessing the obstruction. I think people would like to see if the whole mess was organic or set up and if so by whom. The focus is on the What and I want to know the Why.

As far as I know, no one involved in the investigation, Comey included, is fearful of investigation of the oranges.
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#3016
Sounds like they are trying to agree how he will testify. In my opinion he should testify publicly and anything less is a cop out. Seeing how AG Barr appears to have cleared the way, and if they can't come to an agreement on his testimony, he should then be compelled.
Why Mueller may be fighting a public hearing on Capitol Hill

I completely agree. Have OJ trial level coverage, let all of the Dems on the committee have their camera time, with the Nadler Whiz Kid leading the way. And I hope they grill Mueller for at least a few months...
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SoWal Insider
#3017
I completely agree. Have OJ trial level coverage, let all of the Dems on the committee have their camera time, with the Nadler Whiz Kid leading the way. And I hope they grill Mueller for at least a few months...
Why not get Donald J. Trump to testify. Hillary Clinton testified for ten hours before Congress. Trump's not a coward, is he?
Lake View Too avatar
SoWal Insider
#3018
The main problem is the format to be chosen for Mueller to testify. Since all of this is tied up with national security issues, if he testified in open Congressional, televised hearings, he would have to refrain from giving information that would be harmful to continuing investigations or divulge means and methods of surveillance, specifically about our assets to counter the Russians. If he testifies in closed door sessions with congressmen who have security clearance, he could be more forthcoming, but he could never be sure that the Repubs wouldn't leak serious matters that could compromise our national security, to suck up to the president* It's a tough situation.
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Beach Fanatic
#3019
The main problem is the format to be chosen for Mueller to testify. Since all of this is tied up with national security issues, if he testified in open Congressional, televised hearings, he would have to refrain from giving information that would be harmful to continuing investigations or divulge means and methods of surveillance, specifically about our assets to counter the Russians. If he testifies in closed door sessions with congressmen who have security clearance, he could be more forthcoming, but he could never be sure that the Repubs wouldn't leak serious matters that could compromise our national security, to suck up to the president* It's a tough situation.

Closed door sessions? Oh, OK. And if the Blue team still does not get they want they will continue this circus.

Shoot..I vote to have the hearings on the steps of the Capitol and invite the public to fill up the National Mall. Let the sun shine on Mueller's time in front of Little Jerry's court.
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Beach Fanatic
#3020
Why not get Donald J. Trump to testify. Hillary Clinton testified for ten hours before Congress. Trump's not a coward, is he?

When's the last time a sitting President testified under oath in front of a Congressional committee? (serious question)
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Beach Fanatic
#3021
Meanwhile in "Trump's America", and other POTUS America before T:

Operation Mockingbird - Wikipedia

An excerpt: Operation Mockingbird is an alleged large-scale program of the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) that began in the early 1950s and attempted to manipulate news media for propaganda purposes.
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#3022
When's the last time a sitting President testified under oath in front of a Congressional committee? (serious question)
When was the last time one needed to? (serious answer)
Lake View Too avatar
SoWal Insider
#3023
Closed door sessions? Oh, OK. And if the Blue team still does not get they want they will continue this circus.

Shoot..I vote to have the hearings on the steps of the Capitol and invite the public to fill up the National Mall. Let the sun shine on Mueller's time in front of Little Jerry's court.
Then why not release the entire unredacted report to Congress? (Serious question) That would be sunshine.

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PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#3024
Meanwhile in "Trump's America", and other POTUS America before T:

Operation Mockingbird - Wikipedia

An excerpt: Operation Mockingbird is an alleged large-scale program of the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) that began in the early 1950s and attempted to manipulate news media for propaganda purposes.
Research Watergate and learn the history of crooked, lying, Republican Presidents and GOP dirty tricks. It’s not “alleged” it’s proven fact.
carson avatar
Beach Fanatic
#3025
When was the last time one needed to? (serious answer)

Touche.
carson avatar
Beach Fanatic
#3026
Touche.


Trump would crumple like a paper hat in the rain if he had to testify. It would be great TV though.

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