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Leader of the Banned avatar
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#4277
Calm down Treason Trio, Hillary isn’t running and Tulsi will not be the nominee. We understand your temporary distraction from Giuliani’s indicted pals and the criminal capers of the Moronic Madman in the Whitehouse..
It's a silly sideshow. They are in fact trying to conflate Hillary's words with the fitness of actual Democratic candidates in the 2020 electtion. They are also expressing fake sympathy towards the "victim" Tulsi Gabbard, much as they did with Bernie Sanders in the 2016 election in order to divide the electorate among the more impressionable Democratic voters.
FdxUsmc avatar
Beach Fanatic
#42781
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Rep. Tulsi Gabbard. Who sees Russian asset? American hero more likely!

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FdxUsmc avatar
Beach Fanatic
#4279
It's a silly sideshow. They are in fact trying to conflate Hillary's words with the fitness of actual Democratic candidates in the 2020 electtion. They are also expressing fake sympathy towards the "victim" Tulsi Gabbard, much as they did with Bernie Sanders in the 2016 election in order to divide the electorate among the more impressionable Democratic voters.
Why Lie, nobody is conflating Killary’s words, we are quoting her! The DNC rigged your 2016 primary not us.
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Beach FanaticAuthor
#4280
Why Lie, nobody is conflating Killary’s words, we are quoting her! The DNC rigged your 2016 primary not us.

Where did I lie? I made no comment whatsoever on whether or not Hillary made the remarks. Of course she made them, never denied it. I don't think you know what the word conflation means, so allow me to school you. Conflation is the merging of two or more sets of information, texts, ideas, etc. into one. The conflation lies with associating a political figure who is irrelevant in the 2020 election with the current crop of candidates. Even assuming that the worst allegations about Hillary are true, and that the remarks she made about Tulsi Gabbard are unfair, inappropriate, untrue etc., it is a major act of conflation to try to make that an issue in the 2020 election. That is most certainly what is happening. It's faux sympathy for the angry, disgruntled Democratic socialist extreme underdog candidate from the far right in order to create division among the Democratic voters.
FdxUsmc avatar
Beach Fanatic
#4281
Where did I lie? I made no comment whatsoever on whether or not Hillary made the remarks. Of course she made them, never denied it. I don't think you know what the word conflation means, so allow me to school you. Conflation is the merging of two or more sets of information, texts, ideas, etc. into one. The conflation lies with associating a political figure who is irrelevant in the 2020 election with the current crop of candidates. Even assuming that the worst allegations about Hillary are true, and that the remarks she made about Tulsi Gabbard are unfair, inappropriate, untrue etc., it is a major act of conflation to try to make that an issue in the 2020 election. That is most certainly what is happening. It's faux sympathy for the angry, disgruntled Democratic socialist extreme underdog candidate from the far right in order to create division among the Democratic voters.
So a Russian asset in the 2020 primary is a non-issue? Looking back at this forum, Russian interference in our elections seems to be of concern.
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Beach FanaticAuthor
#4282
So a Russian asset in the 2020 primary is a non-issue? Looking back at this forum, Russian interference in our elections seems to be of concern.

I said it shouldn't be an issue if the allegations were "untrue", in which case Gabbard would not be a Russian asset. Then it would be a conflation to try to pin Hillary's remarks on the other candidates, which is clearly what is happening. If there is truth to the accusations, then all bets are off, and Hillary is doing a service to the country

I'll say it again, Hillary is not running. I know you can't escape your maniacal fits of rage over her, but she's gone, you can relax.
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#4283
Baby Bush, Obama, Trump all campaigned on stopping unnecessary foreign wars. Trump is the first to actually attempt to scale back US involvement. For decades, especially in the 1960s, the Democratic party was vehemently anti-war. What happened?? (Please share your take on what happened, I will share mine)

Tulsi not only is gathering the Free Stuff Army socialists within her party, but she is awakening the really "woke" Dems who realize that if we stop spending billions, trillions on foreign countries, then there will be plenty for their domestic programs like free health care. And yes, those conservatives who seek a more peace projecting America instead of bombing the crap out of another country, like Tulsi too.
As usual trump lied to you. The Syrian troops are not coming home they are being redeployed to Iraq.
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#4284
When will the Whitehouse issue a formal apology?:popcorn:

There was a DOJ investigation
There was an FBI investigation
There was a House Oversight Committee investigation
There were multiple congressional hearings

And now the State Department issues it's final report
A multiyear State Department probe of emails that were sent to former secretary of state Hillary Clinton’s private computer server concluded there was no systemic or deliberate mishandling of classified information by department employees, according to a report submitted to Congress this month.

The report appears to represent a final and anticlimactic chapter in a controversy that overshadowed the 2016 presidential campaign and exposed Clinton to fierce criticism that she later cited as a major factor in her loss to President Trump.

In the end, State Department investigators found 38 current or former employees “culpable” of violating security procedures — none involving material that had been marked classified — in a review of roughly 33,000 emails that had been sent to or from the personal computer system Clinton used.
None of the 38 individuals is named Hillary Clinton.
Bob Wells avatar
Beach Fanatic
#4286
Fixing to be some exploding heads! You have been warned.

Leader of the Banned avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#4287
Fixing to be some exploding heads! You have been warned.


Looks like it got taken down. What was it?
FdxUsmc avatar
Beach Fanatic
#4288
This is old news, but it is something I didn't know about until now. At the moment I'm not drawing too many conclusions from this as to the appropriateness of the meeting, except does sound a little amateurish and perhaps naive.

Tulsi Gabbard reveals she met Assad in Syria, without informing top Democrats
I would,” said Obama. He further said, “. . . the notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them — which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration(bush)—-is ridiculous.”
Leader of the Banned avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#4289
I would,” said Obama. He further said, “. . . the notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them — which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration(bush)—-is ridiculous.”
You're going to compare a public statement by a president about an adversary, with covert by actions by a member of Congress about [with] a cruel genocidal dictator? Kay....

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Beach Fanatic
#4290
Just give us the summary please.

This. You can't drop a bomb and leave us hanging.
Bob Wells avatar
Beach Fanatic
#4291
Sorry, it was Neil Cavuto opinion piece addressing the President's common refrain of "Fake News" when the President is called out for his less than factual statements.
FdxUsmc avatar
Beach Fanatic
#4292
I would,” said Obama. He further said, “. . . the notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them — which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration(bush)—-is ridiculous.”
Here is the question Obama was asked:
The question: “Would you be willing to meet separately, without precondition, during the first year of your administration, in Washington or anywhere else, with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, and North Korea, in order to bridge the gap that divides our countries?”

so yes, I’m comparing Syria to Syria ‍♂️ Crazy I know.
Leader of the Banned avatar
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#4293
Here is the question Obama was asked:
The question: “Would you be willing to meet separately, without precondition, during the first year of your administration, in Washington or anywhere else, with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, and North Korea, in order to bridge the gap that divides our countries?”

so yes, I’m comparing Syria to Syria ‍♂️ Crazy I know.
No, you are comparing a a President's very open, general philosophy regarding meeting with a variety of adversaries, with an actual secretive meeting of a low-level member of Congress, with a specific dictator engaging in atrocities. I can only assume that your unwillingness to admit the difference is a case extreme gaslighting. If not, then you have a problem.
FdxUsmc avatar
Beach Fanatic
#4294
No, you are comparing a a President's very open, general philosophy regarding meeting with a variety of adversaries, with an actual secretive meeting of a low-level member of Congress, with a specific dictator engaging in atrocities. I can only assume that your unwillingness to admit the difference is a case extreme gaslighting. If not, then you have a problem.
Not gaslighting, just pointing out, it’s not surprising that Obama’s philosophy has trickled down to other democrats.
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#4295
I've got to say, this business about the Ukraine server, which no one had ever heard about until it was mentioned recently tells me — What, are we trying to exculpate Russia?
All of our trained intelligence officials have consistently corroborated that Russia was behind the election meddling, not the Ukraine.
Rep. Francis Rooney (R-Fla.)

Did he also mention to me in [passing] that the corruption that related to the DNC server? Absolutely, no question about that. But that's it. And that's why we held up the money.'
Acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney

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FdxUsmc avatar
Beach Fanatic
#4296
President Donald Trump is presiding over a “money machine” and now has the most well-funded re-election campaign in history, according to fundraising numbers released last week.

Politico reports that Trump and the Republican National Coalition have raised more than $300 million, and the President alone has $158 million cash on hand to kick off his re-election bid, more than any other sitting president at this point in his campaign.
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#4297
President Donald Trump is presiding over a “money machine” and now has the most well-funded re-election campaign in history, according to fundraising numbers released last week.

Politico reports that Trump and the Republican National Coalition have raised more than $300 million, and the President alone has $158 million cash on hand to kick off his re-election bid, more than any other sitting president at this point in his campaign.
Well sht, I guess this proves he’s innocent.
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#4298
Stable Genius can’t have any type of meeting now without melting down. We also find out QuidProPotus believes the constitution’s emoluments clause is phony along with the first amendment’s freedom of the press, rule of law, separation of powers, and who the hell knows what else. Let’s here from the constitution loving right wingers.
Emerald Drifter avatar
Beach Fanatic
#4299
Question for Leader of the Lakeview Poppas: Do you want to know the name of the "first whistleblower" or does it even matter? I ask because a major component of dealing with LEGITIMATE whistleblowers is "Employee retaliation". Legitimate whistleblowers are KNOWN want to know they are protected from retaliation, and they are protected within the whistleblower guidelines.

I certainly understand why you guys don't want to know who it is/was. Just like who cares who the actual "Russian agents" are/were. It's just get Trump no what the means or the methods, right?
Emerald Drifter avatar
Beach Fanatic
#4300
Stable Genius can’t have any type of meeting now without melting down. We also find out QuidProPotus believes the constitution’s emoluments clause is phony along with the first amendment’s freedom of the press, rule of law, separation of powers, and who the hell knows what else. Let’s here from the constitution loving right wingers.

So I assume you are a Constitution hating left winger?
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#4301
Question for Leader of the Lakeview Poppas: Do you want to know the name of the "first whistleblower" or does it even matter? I ask because a major component of dealing with LEGITIMATE whistleblowers is "Employee retaliation". Legitimate whistleblowers are KNOWN want to know they are protected from retaliation, and they are protected within the whistleblower guidelines.

I certainly understand why you guys don't want to know who it is/was. Just like who cares who the actual "Russian agents" are/were. It's just get Trump no what the means or the methods, right?
The only thing that matters is the veracity of the information. The person came forward and the DNI determined the info was credible and so far the moron in Oval Office and his chief do staff have confirmed the allegations. The person is protected by law so why do you give a crap who it is?

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