How ironic is it that Bush is aligned with the democrats and the repubs are opposed to this agreement. Do the elephansts think they have all the ime in the world to structure this package to their benefit. It sure hasn't looked like McCain's presence in DC has been critical to the process. I live in Jefferson County Alabama. You may have heard that we are entering the largest municipal bankrupcy in US history. So my cost of this will be huge along with the mess at the Federal level, I am ready to fire all republicans. It was the republican arm of my county commission that screwed up the county's finances, refused to make any reasonable response ( ie., bankrupcy) and ir sure looks o me like it is the republicans on a narional level that are screwing everything up nationally.
Bush and democrats vs. repubs
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I understand peoples frustration with the process. I'd say there was plenty of blame to go around in Washington. Let's try not to point too many fingers while they try to sort out this mess.
Stuff like this is part of the problem as well.....THOSE WASCILLY WEPUBLICANS...
Nobody that looks at this objectively can pin it on one party or the other....This is the crap that people are sick of
I simply don't think this mess can be blamed on one party!
Stuff like this is part of the problem as well.....THOSE WASCILLY WEPUBLICANS...
Nobody that looks at this objectively can pin it on one party or the other....This is the crap that people are sick of
I agree, but the radio stations this morning were blaming the Dems, so alot of people are doing it. Annoying isn't it? Let's just all remain calm and back away from the ledge...
I do find it ironic that the democrats and Bush are aligned on this though. Crisis makes strange bedfellows.
Based on reports from the Hill this morning, there are enough votes in the Senate due to bipartisan support to pass the amended Paulson Plan. Additionally, there are enough democratic votes in the House to pass the amended Paulson Plan due to the democratic majority (236 Dems to 198 Repubs).
So here is my question, if there is currently enough bipartisan support in the Senate for the Paulson plan, and there are enough Democratic votes in the House to pass the plan, then why isn't it being brought to a vote?
Additionally, why is it McCain's fault that HOUSE republicans aren't supportive of the current bill. He's in the Senate and the Democrats have enough votes to pass it if they think it's a good idea.
So here is my question, if there is currently enough bipartisan support in the Senate for the Paulson plan, and there are enough Democratic votes in the House to pass the plan, then why isn't it being brought to a vote?
Additionally, why is it McCain's fault that HOUSE republicans aren't supportive of the current bill. He's in the Senate and the Democrats have enough votes to pass it if they think it's a good idea.
Based on reports from the Hill this morning, there are enough votes in the Senate due to bipartisan support to pass the amended Paulson Plan. Additionally, there are enough democratic votes in the House to pass the amended Paulson Plan due to the democratic majority (236 Dems to 198 Repubs).
So here is my question, if there is currently enough bipartisan support in the Senate for the Paulson plan, and there are enough Democratic votes in the House to pass the plan, then why isn't it being brought to a vote?
Additionally, why is it McCain's fault that HOUSE republicans aren't supportive of the current bill. He's in the Senate and the Democrats have enough votes to pass it if they think it's a good idea.
This might answer your question
Just a reminder: House GOP can?t block a bailout billposted at 9:40 am on September 26, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
Send to a Friend | printer-friendly Speaker Nancy Pelosi has the plenary power to bring a bill to the floor of the House, and no parliamentary procedure can help a minority to block a majority will to pass it. That?s one fact that has to be remembered while Pelosi and Barney Frank blame the House GOP over the collapse of the bailout bill:
?I didn?t know I was going to be the referee for an internal G.O.P. ideological civil war,? Mr. Frank said, according to The A.P.Thursday, in the Roosevelt Room after the session, the Treasury secretary, Henry M. Paulson Jr., literally bent down on one knee as he pleaded with Nancy Pelosi, the House Speaker, not to ?blow it up? by withdrawing her party?s support for the package over what Ms. Pelosi derided as a Republican betrayal.
?I didn?t know you were Catholic,? Ms. Pelosi said, a wry reference to Mr. Paulson?s kneeling, according to someone who observed the exchange. She went on: ?It?s not me blowing this up, it?s the Republicans.?
Mr. Paulson sighed. ?I know. I know.?
If Pelosi has her entire caucus in line to support the Paulson plan, then she has the vote to pass it. Some estimates have as many as 50 Republicans ready to support the plan in defiance of Boehner. If that?s true, Pelosi could lose all of her Blue-Dog Democrats and still pass the bill.
So why not just call a vote? Pelosi doesn?t want to get married to George Bush, that?s why. She wants to spread the political risk and get consensus on a bailout plan so that the responsibility for any failure doesn?t rest solely on her shoulders, at least in the House. Both Pelosi and Harry Reid wanted John McCain to deliver both GOP caucuses to cover their own butts on the bailout bill, and McCain ? at least thus far ? hasn?t convinced Boehner to do so.
It appears that Reid has enough Republicans on board to survive a filibuster. George Bush will happily sign the bill as soon as he gets it from Capitol Hill. Pelosi could deliver that bill with plenty of votes to spare simply by scheduling a vote. She lacks the courage to do so. That?s not the fault of the House GOP.
Update (AP): All of this is true but it?s also why McCain?s going to take the blame if they can?t pass it. Pelosi doesn?t need votes, she needs political cover; Maverick can?t give her the former but, as the GOP?s nominee, he can singlehandedly give her the latter by endorsing the deal. If he doesn?t, the consequences will be laid at his feet.
Nice leadership Madame Speaker. It's not about passing a bill that you and the rest of the Democratic Party thinks is good for America, it's about politics.
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