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beachFool

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Stimulus plan: Close enough for government work

www.waltonsun.com

October 16, 2010

Detractors label the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (aka stimulus plan) a failure, and the converse is true for supporters. For Walton County property owners the $329,860 received by the school district mitigated our property tax bills. The stimulus plan funded several local DOT projects, built a pedestrian bridge for the 30A bike path and helped revamp a Walton County jewel ? Topsail Hill State Park and Preserve. I admit my wife and I enjoyed the tax cuts from the stimulus plan. The additional debt created by the stimulus poses a longterm dilemma, but for all the teeth gnashing about the stimulus plan and higher deficits, the GOP?s ?Pledge to America? leads to even larger deficits.


Where have all the fiscal conservatives gone?


Regardless of your opinion, there is one dog that did not bite. The projected fraud and abuse simply did not occur. Initially, many experts predicted 5 percent losses at a minimum. After all, the BBC reported $20 billion was lost in Iraq where Halliburton had years of no-bid contracts. Government inefficiency is legend, but the stimulus plan has, relatively speaking , little fraud. Of almost 190,000 contracts, loans or grants, less than .2 percent are under investigation.


Sure, there were some shady deals. Boeing received a contract for environmental monitoring at a site. One small problem: Boeing received a fine for polluting the same site. In Arizona, the largest highway project went to a firm where top executives pled guilty in a federal criminal case involving fraudulent tax returns. The head honchos paid a $1.2 million fine. Hmm, maybe they can move to Florida and run for governor.


Because of the unusual oversight and transparency initiated by Vice President Biden, it was simple to terminate fishy deals. For example, a Long Island, New York bridge-painting project ($1.9 million) got the kibosh after an ineligible company won the bid. The Federal Highway Authority revoked a $1 million project in Washington when investigators discovered the county engineer stood to profit from the proposed road. The engineer owned some land where, conveniently, the road was going.


A former Monroe, La., city official who did time for public corruption was the sub-contractor on a $200,000 sidewalk-paving project. Assuming his firm submitted the low bid and everything was kosher, in my opinion, that?s no foul ? especially for Louisiana.


The Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board, independently led by Earl Devaney, followed the money with complex computer programs. These algorithms alerted the board to suspicious spending and, paraphrasing Barney Fife, the board could nip it in the bud. Inspectors general from every major agency scrutinized the stimulus also.


According to a ?Time? magazine report, Biden was directly responsible for blocking more than 250 projects. Republican Senator Pat Roberts complimented the White House and Biden on the Senate floor for appropriately delaying a paving project in Kansas.


The stimulus plan met its goal and spent 70 percent of the money by fiscal year end. While the stimulus is on time, under budget, and relatively free of fraud, there is no doubt it is a political failure. The tepid recovery lends credence to failed stimulus rhetoric.


Even though the recession officially ended in June 2009, America still logically has the recession blues. We still experience aftershocks from the worst financial experience since the Great Depression. In 2008, our financial system was more comatose than the 2010 Georgia Bulldogs.


The USA Today reports many independent economists agree with the White House?s projection three million Americans would face unemployment without the stimulus.


Buz Livingston is a certified financial planner. He operates Livingston Financial Planning Inc. focusing on hourly financial planning and investment management. Contact him directly at 850-267-1068 or at buz@ LivingstonFinancial.net? .
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30ashopper

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This reminds me of something Sharon Angle said in Thursday's debate with Harry Reid:

"My job is to create jobs," he said, looking into the camera as he addressed a state burdened with the highest unemployment rate in the nation. "What she is talking about is extreme: We have to do it."

Ms. Angle looked over at her opponent and also to the camera. "Harry Reid," she said, "it's not your job to create jobs. It's your job to create policies that create confidence in the private sector so they can create jobs."

You can't borrow and spend your way out of a recession. The stimulus was nothing more that temporary welfare funded by foreign investors. (With a whole lot of special interest kick backs thrown in for good measure.) Long term spending like this actually has a pronounced negative impact on private sector growth.
 
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Bob

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Stimulus plan: Close enough for government work

www.waltonsun.com

October 16, 2010

Detractors label the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (aka stimulus plan) a failure, and the converse is true for supporters. For Walton County property owners the $329,860 received by the school district mitigated our property tax bills. The stimulus plan funded several local DOT projects, built a pedestrian bridge for the 30A bike path and helped revamp a Walton County jewel ? Topsail Hill State Park and Preserve. I admit my wife and I enjoyed the tax cuts from the stimulus plan. The additional debt created by the stimulus poses a longterm dilemma, but for all the teeth gnashing about the stimulus plan and higher deficits, the GOP?s ?Pledge to America? leads to even larger deficits.


Where have all the fiscal conservatives gone?


Regardless of your opinion, there is one dog that did not bite. The projected fraud and abuse simply did not occur. Initially, many experts predicted 5 percent losses at a minimum. After all, the BBC reported $20 billion was lost in Iraq where Halliburton had years of no-bid contracts. Government inefficiency is legend, but the stimulus plan has, relatively speaking , little fraud. Of almost 190,000 contracts, loans or grants, less than .2 percent are under investigation.


Sure, there were some shady deals. Boeing received a contract for environmental monitoring at a site. One small problem: Boeing received a fine for polluting the same site. In Arizona, the largest highway project went to a firm where top executives pled guilty in a federal criminal case involving fraudulent tax returns. The head honchos paid a $1.2 million fine. Hmm, maybe they can move to Florida and run for governor.


Because of the unusual oversight and transparency initiated by Vice President Biden, it was simple to terminate fishy deals. For example, a Long Island, New York bridge-painting project ($1.9 million) got the kibosh after an ineligible company won the bid. The Federal Highway Authority revoked a $1 million project in Washington when investigators discovered the county engineer stood to profit from the proposed road. The engineer owned some land where, conveniently, the road was going.


A former Monroe, La., city official who did time for public corruption was the sub-contractor on a $200,000 sidewalk-paving project. Assuming his firm submitted the low bid and everything was kosher, in my opinion, that?s no foul ? especially for Louisiana.


The Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board, independently led by Earl Devaney, followed the money with complex computer programs. These algorithms alerted the board to suspicious spending and, paraphrasing Barney Fife, the board could nip it in the bud. Inspectors general from every major agency scrutinized the stimulus also.


According to a ?Time? magazine report, Biden was directly responsible for blocking more than 250 projects. Republican Senator Pat Roberts complimented the White House and Biden on the Senate floor for appropriately delaying a paving project in Kansas.


The stimulus plan met its goal and spent 70 percent of the money by fiscal year end. While the stimulus is on time, under budget, and relatively free of fraud, there is no doubt it is a political failure. The tepid recovery lends credence to failed stimulus rhetoric.


Even though the recession officially ended in June 2009, America still logically has the recession blues. We still experience aftershocks from the worst financial experience since the Great Depression. In 2008, our financial system was more comatose than the 2010 Georgia Bulldogs.


The USA Today reports many independent economists agree with the White House?s projection three million Americans would face unemployment without the stimulus.


Buz Livingston is a certified financial planner. He operates Livingston Financial Planning Inc. focusing on hourly financial planning and investment management. Contact him directly at 850-267-1068 or at buz@ LivingstonFinancial.net? .
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BUZ LIVINGSTON
we need a massive, multi faceted infrastructure initiative. fund it by means testing social security recipients. that should keep the tea sippers busy.
 

Bob

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This reminds me of something Sharon Angle said in Thursday's debate with Harry Reid:



You can't borrow and spend your way out of a recession. The stimulus was nothing more that temporary welfare funded by foreign investors. (With a whole lot of special interest kick backs thrown in for good measure.) Long term spending like this actually has a pronounced negative impact on private sector growth.
That is to suppose nothing of value was created, the economy was not incrementally stimulated over doing nothing, and that the private sector did in fact, not cause the near death of the economy. in other words, bull****!
 

30ashopper

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That is to suppose nothing of value was created, the economy was not incrementally stimulated over doing nothing

I never said that. What are the long term negative effects on the debt we took on, and does that out weight the short term positive effects the welfare generated?

and that the private sector did in fact, not cause the near death of the economy. in other words, bull****!

Was it entirly the fault of the private sector, or does government policy share the blame? I think the banks should take some blame, and the people involved in the housing bubble should take some blame, but remember, one of the reasons the banks were able to hand out all those loans - government guarantees that insured the banks wouldn't lose any money. ;-)

Now today, we have even bigger "too big to fail" banks, monopolies in investment, and private businesses deemed to important to fail under government control. Our situation is worse.

(I also might point out that the vast majority of the policies that played a role in all of this were, ehm, policies promoted by democrats. ;-))
 
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Andy A

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30ashopper, its useless to try and educate the uneducatable and inform those who are set on remaining uninformed but I admire you for the attempt.
Oh, and Buz there are still a good many fiscal conservatives around. Despite Obama and his administration's policies, they haven't gone out of style just yet.
 

Matt J

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Conservatives seem to be good at talking about not spending, but they seem to forget the instant savings of paying down a debt faster than the standard repayment term. In other words; if you're so concerned about your grand kids why not forgo that 3% tax cut and elect politicians that will actually work at paying down the debt instead of just cutting YOUR taxes.
 
Conservatives seem to be good at talking about not spending, but they seem to forget the instant savings of paying down a debt faster than the standard repayment term. In other words; if you're so concerned about your grand kids why not forgo that 3% tax cut and elect politicians that will actually work at paying down the debt instead of just cutting YOUR taxes.


We have spent ourselves into such a hole that taxes are going to need to be higher than I would prefer in order to fix our problems. Some popular spending programs will need to be reduced also.
Liberals seems to me to be channeling ostriches; if we stick our heads in the sand and pretend the enormous debt and runaway spending do not exist then the problems will simply go away. Unfortunately that is not reality and all of us are going to suffer because all of us stood by and let politicians get us in deep trouble.
 
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