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SHELLY

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The good news is that the Fed is lowering interest rates--the bad news?

A word of caution to those who might be counting on untapped home equity lines of credit:

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Trying to tap into home equity? We'll see
Countrywide and others tell thousands of homeowners that they can no longer borrow against their credit lines as the companies tighten standards.
By Kathy M. Kristof,, E. Scott Reckard and David Colker, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
February 1, 2008

Tens of thousands of homeowners with home equity lines of credit are getting a rude surprise: They've been told by their lender that they can no longer take money out on their credit lines because sinking home prices have left them with little or no equity.

Among the lenders taking such action is Countrywide Financial Corp., which sent 122,000 letters to customers last week telling them they could no longer borrow against their credit lines. In some cases, according to the company, the borrowers are now "upside down" -- the total debt on the home exceeds the market value of the property.

Calabasas-based Countrywide, the nation's largest mortgage lender, says it uses computer modeling that factors in changes in home prices to determine which customers will have their money tap shut off.

The cutoffs are coming as a shock to some.

"We didn't deserve this," Thaleia Georgiades, a real estate agent in El Dorado, Calif., said Thursday, two days after she and her husband, a builder, learned that their Countrywide credit line had been frozen.

"When you are self-employed, that's the money you count on to bridge the gap during tough times. And this is a particularly tough time in both the building and housing industries," Georgiades said.

In Phoenix, Kristen McEntire said she received a letter from San Antonio-based USAA Federal Savings Bank about two months ago saying the credit limit on her home equity line had been slashed by $40,000 because the value of her home had declined.

"They froze everything but about $5," she said. "That's what I had left in the line of credit" after the bank's action.

A USAA spokesman said the bank had cut credit limits in "a small number of cases" because of lower home values.

McEntire, 33, who works for a mortgage broker, said she had been using the credit line to help make payments on another home that she owned and had rented out.

"I thought that if I only had to keep doing that for five or six months, I could make it up later," she said. Instead she found herself borrowing $12,000 on credit cards.

"I want to act responsibly, so I don't foreclose on either property," she said.

The moves to rescind credit lines are part of a pullback by lenders nationwide on home equity loans, which are often used to finance home improvements and consumer spending. Such loans, also known as second mortgages, were widely available until six months ago, when delinquencies and foreclosures began to soar.

Now, with new evidence of sinking home values, many lenders are requiring that homeowners maintain a much larger percentage of equity in their homes as a cushion against financial problems.

Pasadena-based mortgage lender IndyMac Bancorp last week sharply cut back on issuing new home equity lines as part of a move to focus on loans that can be sold immediately to investors. An IndyMac spokesman said he couldn't say whether the lender was looking at existing credit lines with an eye to suspending them.

Chase Home Lending, a unit of banking giant JPMorgan Chase & Co., one of the country's largest home equity lenders, is imposing new guidelines next week that will further restrict who can get a new credit line, the company said.

Through this week, Chase customers in California can tap as much as 90% of the equity in their homes. Starting Monday, however, that limit goes down to 85% in most of the state. In six counties, including three in Southern California -- Los Angeles, Orange and Imperial -- Chase won't let homeowners borrow more than 70% of the value of their homes. The bank wouldn't say how the six counties were chosen.

In Florida and Nevada, Chase's loan limits are going down Monday to 70% and 65%, respectively. The percentages will be even lower for people who don't have the best credit.................

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-loans1feb01,0,6255734.story
 
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Bob

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i've got USAA at prime minus one, and that's what I'm waiting for them to rescind.
 

Mango

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Saddens me to see credit lines used for living expenses. The wholesalers used to push these lines like they were candy begging us to attach credit lines even if the borrower wasn't going to draw on it at closing.
Then when people weren't using them, they made them draw minimums of $20K at close. Of course, they could pay it back the month after without recourse, just as long as they didn't close the line, there was no penalty.
 

SHELLY

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The wholesalers used to push these lines like they were candy begging us to attach credit lines even if the borrower wasn't going to draw on it at closing.

....and the wholesalers offered "incentives" to sell these lines?

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Mango

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....and the wholesalers offered "incentives" to sell these lines?.

Yes, but it was minimal on the prime loans, a flat rate. Brokers could upsell it they wanted to to add to the premium. Both loans would be underwritten by the same underwriter, so only one loan package was necessary. I did them if the Borrower really wanted one, but never pushed it, and I never did stand alone HELOCS or upsold the rate the rate. But yep, if I sent one package in and the LTV was low, the reps would call asking why no HELOC request was attached. After closing, I know they sent pre-approved letters offering them again anyway. Depending on the LTV, HELOCS were strictly FICO score driven and they made NO exceptions on DTI, so I am surprised they are closing lines if people are paying on time for high FICO borrowers. They must be seeing a trend of borrowing against them with self employeds or unemployeds.
Some Lenders just stopped offering a while back already.
 

SHELLY

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A Realtor in Ft Myers had his HELOC yanked because of declining home values.

http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080216/RE/802160459/1075

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"He found out the hard way when Countrywide shut down two lines of home equity credit he'd paid off last year with $56,000 in savings, Powell said.

Powell made the decision to pay off the lines "knowing I would probably have to borrow some of the money back in April to pay taxes," he said in the e-mail.

Now he'll have to withdraw money from a retirement account and take a 10 percent penalty or use a credit card with a high interest rate, Powell said.

[Countrywide]said in a statement "sound risk management and responsible landing practices" dictate cutting off some customers' home equity lines.

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A word to the wise: If you have been counting on a HELOC as a safety net, even if you have AAA-1 credit now and call the lender by his first name, think through your contingency plan again and come up with a viable Plan B.

This credit crunch is some serious stuff, folks. Don't be scared--be prepared.

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