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Bob

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50 square, one story, tear off, architectural shingle, peel-n-stick in valleys, minor wood replacement, new drip edge, vents, flashing.....what is a ballpark figure per square that is fair to both sides?
 
50 square, one story, tear off, architectural shingle, peel-n-stick in valleys, minor wood replacement, new drip edge, vents, flashing.....what is a ballpark figure per square that is fair to both sides?

What's the roof pitch? What's the drip edge material? You said flashing, is it much headwall or sidewall, can you kinda describe? Are you the owner/permiter?
 

Bob

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What's the roof pitch? What's the drip edge material? You said flashing, is it much headwall or sidewall, can you kinda describe? Are you the owner/permiter?
2/12,painted aluminum,15 ft run of 6 inch high flashing,i'm the owner,contractor is pulling permit,late 50s ranch,low gable,original roof was built-up
 
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2/12,painted aluminum,15 ft run of 6 inch high flashing,i'm the owner,contractor is pulling permit,late 50s ranch,low gable,original roof was built-up

That's a very low pitch roof for the product you want installed, but you probably heard that already. I'd start looking at local roofers if I were you. If they come in high look at P.C. roofers and Crestview roofers. Maybe you wouldn't want to pay more than: $300 for dumpster, $4,000 for materials, $4,000 for labor.

You can do better, but this might be fair today. 10/15/08

Will you let us all know later what other price range you get? Good luck.
 

Bob

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yes, i know 4/12 should be minimum,and i've been getting 8 years out of 3 tabs before the valleys let loose from nail corrosion, but flat roof system is cosmetic hell. quotes are 250-300/square. roofers are all saying shingle prices have risen this past summer. i don't like working folks down to nothing realizing i may need to pick up the phone for a callback later.
 
yes, i know 4/12 should be minimum,and i've been getting 8 years out of 3 tabs before the valleys let loose from nail corrosion, but flat roof system is cosmetic hell. quotes are 250-300/square. roofers are all saying shingle prices have risen this past summer. i don't like working folks down to nothing realizing i may need to pick up the phone for a callback later.

On the 4/12; I am not the type to say that something is "wrong" just because it is not conventional. In reality if you're getting performance and it is more economicly feasable you should go non-conventional.

10 years ago you would get strip shingles installed for $28/square in Santa Rosa Beach. Compare the cost of living, inflation and the insurance from today and 10 years ago. Spend a little time shopping price with roofers from the areas I mentioned and I think you will do well. I think the owner of Canvas, Inc., Britton Bartlett, may be able to put some of his guys on it at a fair price. I don't know his number, but I understand that he is licensed. His installers might do you very well as weekend type work.

If you go to Just Rite Supply and other PC suppliers there are business cards at the counter of companies who really want work. Good Luck.
 

Camp Creek Kid

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Bob, under the 2007 Building Code, when you are doing a re-roofing you are required to have a Licensed ROOFING contractor do the job. A Residential or Building Contractor can do the roof of NEW construction, but not a re-roof. A re-roof is any time you tear off the shingles.

In addition, the 2007 Code requires the following for a re-roofing:

1. The bottom row of plywood (the wood the touches the walls) must be removed so hurricane straps can be applied between roof trusses and walls.

2. All sheathing on roof must be re-nailed.

Then flashing, shingles, etc., can be applied as normal.

AAbsolute's estimate is not accurate due to the above requirements. Please PM me if you have any questions.
 
Bob, under the 2007 Building Code, when you are doing a re-roofing you are required to have a Licensed ROOFING contractor do the job. A Residential or Building Contractor can do the roof of NEW construction, but not a re-roof. A re-roof is any time you tear off the shingles.

In addition, the 2007 Code requires the following for a re-roofing:

1. The bottom row of plywood (the wood the touches the walls) must be removed so hurricane straps can be applied between roof trusses and walls.

2. All sheathing on roof must be re-nailed.

Then flashing, shingles, etc., can be applied as normal.

AAbsolute's estimate is not accurate due to the above requirements. Please PM me if you have any questions.

Should he tear off the plywood or see if there are hurricane straps that can be visually inspected from the attic first? I don't remember him stating that it was a truss roof. How do collar ties or other framing installations affect the relevancy of what you mentioned? Can you help us with the sheathing nail off requirement? Does Britton Bartlett of Canvas, Inc. have a Florida Roof Contractor's License? Last I checked he was both a Licensed Contractor and held a seperate Roofing Contractor's License. Does he qualify if so or is he not allowed to permit a roof because he happens to hold several State Licenses.
Do you know something about the windload requirements of the area where Bob lives in Walton County that he did not tell the rest of us? I don't see the location of his home mentioned in the Thread.

These aren't rhetorical questions. After you review the re-roof statement bulletin held by Walton County Building Dept. will you please get back to us? I would hate to think that someone would hire a contractor who is going to tear off the plywood "sheathing" from the roof deck just to find that there's a windload condition that meets upload.

Bob, Check around for roofer's that are located outside of the Camp Creek area and you may find that you save yourself quite a bit of money.
 
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scooterbug44

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He's reroofing a 50's ranch house - doubt it meets 2007 code requirements.

Doesn't hurt to state current requirements and avoid issues down the road.
 

Camp Creek Kid

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Should he tear off the plywood or see if there are hurricane straps that can be visually inspected from the attic first? I don't remember him stating that it was a truss roof. How do collar ties or other framing installations affect the relevancy of what you mentioned? Can you help us with the sheathing nail off requirement? Does Britton Bartlett of Canvas, Inc. have a Florida Roof Contractor's License? Last I checked he was both a Licensed Contractor and held a seperate Roofing Contractor's License. Does he qualify if so or is he not allowed to permit a roof because he happens to hold several State Licenses.
Do you know something about the windload requirements of the area where Bob lives in Walton County that he did not tell the rest of us? I don't see the location of his home mentioned in the Thread.

These aren't rhetorical questions. After you review the re-roof statement bulletin held by Walton County Building Dept. will you please get back to us? I would hate to think that someone would hire a contractor who is going to tear off the plywood "sheathing" from the roof deck just to find that there's a windload condition that meets upload.

Bob, Check around for roofer's that are located outside of the Camp Creek area and you may find that you save yourself quite a bit of money.

Obviously you don't understand the statutes.

I have no idea why you are so defensive. I was only stating that this job is not as simple as Bob expected and you did not point that out to him. It is not a case of tearing off the shingles and putting on new ones.

For the record, it does the entire construction industry (both homeowners and contractors)to give a ball park bid without even looking at the project. I wanted Bob to know that your estimate would be very low because there is a lot more labor and materials involved in bringing a roof up to code, which is required by LAW with a re-roofing job, than to just put on new shingles.

He stated that the house is a 1950's ranch and the shingles have been on for some time. Unless the roof was replaced since 2002, it will have to be brought up to current codes regardless of the roofing system.

My comments have nothing to do with Britton Barlett or his licenses or lack thereof. Since Britton has a roofing license, there is no issue in this case. However, since this is a public forum and other people reading this thread may not know Britton, it is relevant that they should be aware that a ROOFING contractor must be hired for a re-roofing and that a roof must be brought up to code if a re-roofing is done.

I just spoke the deputy building official in Walton County and here is what was explained to me:

1. Any time a tear-off is done a licensed roofing contractor must be used.

2. For a home built before 2002 with an assessed taxable value over $300,000, wind mitigation must be performed with a re-roofing (hurricane straps).

3. For a home built before 2002 with an assessed taxable value of under $300,000, if the cost of the wind mitigation is15% or more of the total re-roofing job, a General Contractor must be used.

AAbsolute, you hold yourself in high esteem and believe that you are the final expert in all construction related questions on SoWal. I hope that people take your advice with a grain of salt. I am not trying to insult your intelligence or question your experience, but in this case you were wrong. Instead of getting defensive and insulting me, people would respect you a lot more if you would just admit that you made a mistake.
 
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