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Isn’t this forum all things in Trump’s America? 2020 election is fair game. Maybe start a hate America forum for your false rants?

Why don’t you start one with the evidence of what accusations are false about trump?

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Old news. POTUS has been crystal clear.

There are five hours between the last two communications during which Sondland talk to trump to get talking points. You are ignoring that trump wanted a very public announcement in exchange for funds he was withholding that had already been approved by Congress.

trump fellator Baby Gaetz led a gang of some two dozen angry white men in an attempt to storm the House Hearings.

I am a very middle of the road person who used to lean a little right. This isn't intended to justify my point, but a lot...a lot of my my far right leaning friends are tired of the shenanigans and can't see another four years of this s**t show.

This is a failed experiment, it is time to pull the plug.

"Its the economy." Justification for Trump. This comes from people who know nothing about economics. The core infrastructure for the rise of our economy actually started in 2008 under Bush and continued through Obama's administration. When Obama left office the market was at 19,500 when he took over it was 7900. Dodd Frank worked. Greenspan and Bernanke were brilliant. Employment numbers, same thing.

TRUMP HAS HAD DIDDLE s**t TO DO WITH THIS ECONOMY OR ITS GROWTH. HE HAS RIDDEN THE TRAIN. The only thing asshat was smart enough to do was leave it alone.

To ensure my credibility remains intact (haha, cant wait) , let's get on the same page about the economy. It is the American central bank aka the "Federal Reserve" that controls our economy. Presidents are puppets for the most part; all of them. Way too much to get into here, but the central bank is neither "federal" (it's a private bank), nor does it have any "reserves"; it prints notes out of thin air, or today it creates numbers on a computer screen. Excellent background here: short PDF of the book by G Edward Griffin: http://www.jrclifford.com/TM-Creature_for_Jeckyll_Island.pdf / Full book: The Creature From Jekyll Island.pdf (PDFy mirror) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

So when the Fed decides it does not want Trump any longer, he will be gone.

And to carry your argument out further, Clinton was not responsible for the economy during his tenure. But I'm sure The Three Stooges will chime in and prove me wrong.

There are five hours between the last two communications during which Sondland talk to trump to get talking points. You are ignoring that trump wanted a very public announcement in exchange for funds he was withholding that had already been approved by Congress.

More likely sleeping at midnight and awake at 5am

More likely sleeping at midnight and awake at 5am

So I guess you're accusing Sondland of lying under oath about Sondland speaking to trump during that time.

As Taylor’s concerns about a quid pro quo grew more explicit, Sondland sought to put him at ease.

“Bill, I believe you are incorrect about President Trump’s intentions. The President has been crystal clear no quid pro quo’s of any kind,” Sondland texted on Sept. 9, urging his colleagues to stop the text message exchanges.

Last week, Sondland told House investigators that he sent this message after speaking directly to Trump and that he could not speak to whether it was true.

Top U.S. envoy ties Trump directly to Ukraine quid pro quo

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Old news. POTUS has been crystal clear.

Saying "no quid pro quos" is Trump's "I am not a crook".

There are five hours between the last two communications during which Sondland talk to trump to get talking points. You are ignoring that trump wanted a very public announcement in exchange for funds he was withholding that had already been approved by Congress.

This is money that would have expired by Oct 1 2019. It was getting scary. Taylor for the life of him didn't understand the holdup, but things like this happen when you have a formal communication channel, and a Rudy and his henchmen channel. Trump demands that Zalensky bark like a dog and jump through a flaming hoop before the money is released. Even then, Taylor is rightfully concerned that the money still won't be released even after Zalensky meets all of the godfather's demands. After all, where do Don Vito's loyalties lie, Ukraine or Russia? I think we know the answer. Finally, a whistleblower causes the whole debacle to go public, Vito has an "oh s**t" moment, and the money is released.

Anyone can quibble about the embellishments, but the reading is clear. This is just an investigation at this point. It's not going to get better for the President.

Listened to NPR this morning. “If you pluck a chicken one feather at a time, no one will notice. Trump has overplucked.” — Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright (quoting Mussolini) after President Donald Trump’s meeting and follow up press conference with Vladimir Putin.

Trump's "base": Why don't you see Trump believes YOU are so ignorant and lacking in intellectual capacity that all he need do is repeat anything over and over and over for you to believe it.

I love my fellow human beings no matter their political persuasion. Please don't let your wounded pride/saving face (for betting on this president) stand in the way of truth. You are forgiven. We all make mistakes. Correct and move on.

I sense there is a lot of wound licking going on.

Listened to NPR this morning. “If you pluck a chicken one feather at a time, no one will notice. Trump has overplucked.” — Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright (quoting Mussolini) after President Donald Trump’s meeting and follow up press conference with Vladimir Putin.

Trump's "base": Why don't you see Trump believes YOU are so ignorant and lacking in intellectual capacity that all he need do is repeat anything over and over and over for you to believe it.

I love my fellow human beings no matter their political persuasion. Please don't let your wounded pride/saving face (for betting on this president) stand in the way of truth. You are forgiven. We all make mistakes. Correct and move on.

Exactly. She lost after every pundit, expert, and news outlet from A to Z said she would win in a landslide. She lost. He won. "Correct and move on".

I sense there is a lot of wound licking going on.

Yes, three years of Blue tears taste delicious.

As much as you all dislike Trump, he was not a politician, he dispensed with Bush and Clinton which is what was the puppet masters wanted to serve up to us. That's what you all will never comprehend.

Baby Gaetz led a gang of some two dozen angry white men in an attempt to storm the House Hearings.

The clown show continues. Health care, infrastructure improvements, Southern border resolution, and on, and both teams are acting like high school rivals.

How cute, still clinging to the hope daddy isn’t the lying POS all the the evidence is proving.

The clown show continues. Health care, infrastructure improvements, Southern border resolution, and on, and both teams are acting like high school rivals.

The President is acting like a school shooter.

The clown show continues. Health care, infrastructure improvements, Southern border resolution, and on, and both teams are acting like high school rivals.

You are going to have to explain this statement. Healthcare? Infrastructure? Border resolution? Absolutely no progress on any of those fronts. NONE.

Please explain these amazing accomplishments. While you are at it explain how he has drained the swamp. I still see the same alligators there and several new ones.

As I said before, it is the same as the "closer" in baseball coming in the 9th and closing out the game then claiming that he won the game. No dumbass, you just didnt lose it.

A tax cut. Restructuring NAFTA and China...and the jury is still out there just ask most American farmers.

You are starting to see a lot of red tears too. Blind party loyalty is a fool's game. You are going to see more dissention in the ranks. People who have some self respect, respect for the office and an appreciation for our constitution..oh yeah and are smart enough to say "you know maybe a guy who has made over 13,000 false or misleading claims or flat out lies, is someone that I shouldn't support." Seriously, what can you believe from a guy who lies more times everyday than you wash your hands.

Time for Teflon Don to go. It is so comical and given his Dem past, wouldn't be awesome if he turns out to be a Dem plant! No better promoter for the Dems than Cheeto Jesus.

Why is trump building a wall in Colorado? Has he abandoned New Mexico like he did the Kurds?

You are going to have to explain this statement. Healthcare? Infrastructure? Border resolution? Absolutely no progress on any of those fronts. NONE.

Please explain these amazing accomplishments. While you are at it explain how he has drained the swamp. I still see the same alligators there and several new ones.

As I said before, it is the same as the "closer" in baseball coming in the 9th and closing out the game then claiming that he won the game. No dumbass, you just didnt lose it.

A tax cut. Restructuring NAFTA and China...and the jury is still out there just ask most American farmers.

You are starting to see a lot of red tears too. Blind party loyalty is a fool's game. You are going to see more dissention in the ranks. People who have some self respect, respect for the office and an appreciation for our constitution..oh yeah and are smart enough to say "you know maybe a guy who has made over 13,000 false or misleading claims or flat out lies, is someone that I shouldn't support." Seriously, what can you believe from a guy who lies more times everyday than you wash your hands.

Time for Teflon Don to go. It is so comical and given his Dem past, wouldn't be awesome if he turns out to be a Dem plant! No better promoter for the Dems than Cheeto Jesus.

I guarantee he is not a dem. He had to leave the party because they weren’t the dumbasses he needed to buy his lying bullsht. You can find some of those needy bozos in this thread.

You are going to have to explain this statement. Healthcare? Infrastructure? Border resolution? Absolutely no progress on any of those fronts. NONE.

Please explain these amazing accomplishments. While you are at it explain how he has drained the swamp. I still see the same alligators there and several new ones.

As I said before, it is the same as the "closer" in baseball coming in the 9th and closing out the game then claiming that he won the game. No dumbass, you just didnt lose it.

A tax cut. Restructuring NAFTA and China...and the jury is still out there just ask most American farmers.

You are starting to see a lot of red tears too. Blind party loyalty is a fool's game. You are going to see more dissention in the ranks. People who have some self respect, respect for the office and an appreciation for our constitution..oh yeah and are smart enough to say "you know maybe a guy who has made over 13,000 false or misleading claims or flat out lies, is someone that I shouldn't support." Seriously, what can you believe from a guy who lies more times everyday than you wash your hands.

Time for Teflon Don to go. It is so comical and given his Dem past, wouldn't be awesome if he turns out to be a Dem plant! No better promoter for the Dems than Cheeto Jesus.

Blaming Trump for the lack of progress on infrastructure, healthcare and border security is laughable at best. If Dems are so great, why didn’t Obummer solve infrastructure, border and Health care.

Blaming Trump for the lack of progress on infrastructure, healthcare and border security is laughable at best. If Dems are so great, why didn’t Obummer solve infrastructure, border and Health care.

Because the obstructionist do nothing republicans hate america. Duh!

Because the obstructionist do nothing republicans hate america. Duh!

Thanks for making my point. “Do nothing Dems” have taken the obstructionist mantle to a new level.

Thanks for making my point. “Do nothing Dems” have taken the obstructionist mantle to a new level.

Then you admit that Republicans were obstructionist? In the end many politicians aren't doing their jobs and unfortunately it is because of their leadership.

Then you admit that Republicans were obstructionist? In the end many politicians aren't doing their jobs and unfortunately it is because of their leadership.

Of course, both sides playing politics. Sad for all of us. It was the Republicans during Obama and under Trump it’s the Democrats. Been going on for a long long time.

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Funny how you think nothing of what Dems are doing behind closed doors. It’s not right and against our laws. So yes some people in Congress have had enough of this do nothing Congress. Both Dems and republicans need to start doing what they are elected for.