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Geo

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Dec 24, 2006
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Regarding the distances- there is data out there that shows that most Americans drive much less than 100 miles in a day- especially city dwellers. Walton County is the exception- not the norm where everything is really spread out. For instance- the nearest McDonalds is 11
miles from my house on 30a (not that I'm complaining).
 

TNJed

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Sep 4, 2006
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Seagrove Beach, FL
GM does make some hybrid versions of their large SUVs and trucks, but the diesel versions get much better fuel milage.

Why does a Chevy Volt have a price tag of $41,000? Even if the government offers an incentive, all that does is prop up GM. Is the cost really that high? Until that comes down, America will be driving on gasoline, especially since they have to buy another battery pack several years after they purchase new.

Again, vehicles being pitched as "green" are not always green. Those battery packs don't just instantly disappear when they die.

Scooterbug44 may be on to something with the solar on the car. If they painted the entire car with some kind of solar absorbing paint, it could charge the cars in the daytime, while people are at work.

Wow, for $41k one could completely get their home off-grid and buy a used Civic.
 

Zebraspots

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May 15, 2008
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The Nissan leaf seems to be a good fit for a 2 car family or fleets. By the time you factor in incentives and rebates you can get a brand new vehicle for $25,000 and never have to buy gas. Longer trips you just take another vehicle - maybe a hybrid.
 

Koa

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Jul 17, 2010
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The Nissan leaf seems to be a good fit for a 2 car family or fleets. By the time you factor in incentives and rebates you can get a brand new vehicle for $25,000 and never have to buy gas. Longer trips you just take another vehicle - maybe a hybrid.

You may not have to buy gas, but don't the replacement battery packs for those cars run about $8000, and don't they need to be replaced after about 5 years? I wonder if the charge gets less and less as time goes by, like on every other device with batteries. Hmmm? Maybe today, it can go 100 miles on a charge, but when the battery ages, maybe it will get you only 50 miles, then 25 miles, then, BAM! you are hit with a $8000 battery to put into a 5 year old car. Or, you can buy a replacement car with more efficient battery and newer technology, and keep the wheels of capitalism flowing freely. The only problem with that is that you are no longer being green when you have a new car manufactured for you every five years. Have no worry about the cost, because the government will be propping up much of the profits for those vehicles, so that the wealthy are supplementing the auto cost for the middle and lower class, non-taxpaying Americans.
Hate to be a Debbie Downer, but there are many things that need to happen to not get entangled in the web of not-so-green "green technology."
 

MRBS

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Jun 5, 2008
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Yes

"Would you be willing to pay double for every gallon of gas you buy if there'd be no more drilling in the Gulf?"

YES, I would pay double for each gallon of gas I use (and I am not a wealthy person). Don't mean to seem crass, and I hope it doesn't come to this for some sakes, but this may be last resort to really effectively change the direction of energy sourcing and transportation in this country. :roll:
 
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