Walton Deputies To Unionize.

Idlewind, There is no other way to say this so, I apologize in advance if this offends you. You are just simply wrong about Public Service Unions driving up costs. I have seen and interacted with many people like you. You splatter our screens with your anti-union spam soup trying to make us believe that you have some real insight into this whole "union thing". Well, just so you know, anyone who has ever actually been present for Public Service Union negotiations thinks your dribble, disguised as union acumen is ridiculous and blindly prejudicial.:scratch:

Your comments remind me of a 12 year old boy who grew up in Forsythe Ga. who states that he hates black people when in fact, he's never even met a black person.

I have read and enjoyed many of your posts on the SoWal forum. So, I was a bit surprised to read that you are a Union bigot.

The point I was trying to get across to this thread in my last post (and many other threads and posts) is that THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PUBLIC SERVICE UNION AND A PRIVATE SECTOR UNION. Please do a little reading, some research. There is much you can learn that might be beneficial to your credibility on this subject.

We are not a pipe-fitters Union. We are not United Auto Workers. Because the PUBLIC IS OUR BOSS we are by nature, different than private sector Unions.

Again, I am sorry if this offends.

Watcher, you are quite confusing to me. You express your support for the Deputies in one breath and in the next you say RJ's people have to go. At some point in time the change has to start and it ought to START NOW. Let the Deputies vote it up or down without all the intimidation from either MA or DG. Those cronies who are crying about the positions that they appear won't get there promised jobs maybe you should consider working your way up through the chain.

I talked to Sheriff McDaniel from Jackson county, he explained the way it is set up over there, the new Sheriff gets the top 2 or 3 people as his managment team. Why won't that work, oh I forget, it is called Cronism

There is a big difference between a fire department and a sheriff's office. A deputy has a lot more to loose in a barginning situation, then a fire fighter does. Last time I checked a fire fighter did not drive his fire truck home, if that has changed please let me know. When a barginning agent and the sheriff does not agree about a issue the deputies do not get it. I hope you guys from the fire department would stop trying to push your opinion on the deputies, cause it is not wanted. This is a totally different situation then what you all deal with. And for FF 2 the county commsioners are the ones who hold the money and are the ones who say yes or no. Didn't you learn that when they did not give Ralph his $300,000+ that he so called needed. I remember them saying "NO".


"Cops don't carry hoses, they carry guns"

Idlewind, There is no other way to say this so, I apologize in advance if this offends you. You are just simply wrong about Public Service Unions driving up costs. I have seen and interacted with many people like you. You splatter our screens with your anti-union spam soup trying to make us believe that you have some real insight into this whole "union thing". Well, just so you know, anyone who has ever actually been present for Public Service Union negotiations thinks your dribble, disguised as union acumen is ridiculous and blindly prejudicial.:scratch:

Your comments remind me of a 12 year old boy who grew up in Forsythe Ga. who states that he hates black people when in fact, he's never even met a black person.

I have read and enjoyed many of your posts on the SoWal forum. So, I was a bit surprised to read that you are a Union bigot.

The point I was trying to get across to this thread in my last post (and many other threads and posts) is that THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PUBLIC SERVICE UNION AND A PRIVATE SECTOR UNION. Please do a little reading, some research. There is much you can learn that might be beneficial to your credibility on this subject.

We are not a pipe-fitters Union. We are not United Auto Workers. Because the PUBLIC IS OUR BOSS we are by nature, different than private sector Unions.

Again, I am sorry if this offends.

There is no Sheriff Griffith and there will not be. The new Sheriff in town on November 5th will be Sheriff Adkinson. The latest poll shows him waaaaaaay ahead.

JohnR
Interestedgirl is good at pickin them. There will be changes at WCSO and this is a perfect time to organize to protect themselves.

JohnR
Interestedgirl is good at pickin them. There will be changes at WCSO and this is a perfect time to organize to protect themselves.

Going to the PERC website and becoming informed is laughable.

Mr. Adkinson said in the paper that the Sheriff had the final say. I cannot believe he has not throughly researched the matter as it directly impacts how he can operate his department if elected.

The bottom line is that all indication are that this department is broke and needs major reform. Unions always try to hold the status quo. From what people tell me, status quo is the last thing that department needs.

So idlewind, rather that attempt to educate yourself, you will just rely on someone else. OK, I see where you are at. Your a trusting person, don't lose that and beware of wooden nickels.

You are lucky I have a thick skin.
I am not a bigot, I am someone who has never had a positive experience with a union. My experience is they protect the bad, hamper improvement and endorse candidates I would not shake hands with and I get to pay for the privilege. If "public" ones are different than "private' then please accept my apology.

FF2 and SoWalProfire, I note your "thanks" to beachmouse for the above post. Therefore, I know you have read my simple and very direct question that can be answered yes or no. Does your contract prohibit a work stoppage or strike by firefighters and EMS personnel? It is a simple question.

I'd like you to introduce you to my father then. He'll talk your arm off if given a chance but is otherwise harmless, even if he was a 30 year member of the allegedly evil NEA.

Spent all that time as a teacher in an inner city school district where the politics and bull flows freely from the central office. He loved his job for the first 25 of those years, but then new leadership came in and effectively took away any sort of ability individual schools had to discipline students.

What got him to finally take somewhat early retirement was getting attacked by a student. The principal of the school expelled the student and told the student that if they wanted to finish high school, he'd have to go to an alternative school. The school superintendent overruled the principal and ordered that the student who tried to hurt my Dad be allowed back in the school after a two week suspension.

Dad called his union rep, and the union rep not only got the lawyers involved so that the original expulsion would 'stick' but they also got my Dad to file criminal charges against the student after school district administration had put pressure on him not to file. If it hadn't been for the union, that thug would have been in a position to really hurt my father the next time he got mad.