County removing articles from beach?

I will be sure to let everyone that they are welcome to drag all of their crap to your property and do what ever they choose whenever they choose.

Don't you sell real estate? I'm confused if you do - you sell property to people and then claim they don't enjoy the rights of ownership.
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If they leave their crap on the beach, or my property, I can't say that the wind won't come along and take it. ;-)

Ownership rights are not full rights to do whatever the heck you want. The Earth doesn't belong to people. People belong to the Earth. We are trivial beings in a rather large universe. If you think property rights are without failure, go visit a place of war, and you may see otherwise.

I have heard a Realtor or two, telling people that if a person has a deed to the water, they can kick people off the beach because of their property rights. I'd venture to guess that they are not lawyers, because the law isn't as black and white as a statement like that. Statements like that could come back to bite one in the booty.

I could use a milkshake.

I could use a milkshake.

How about a beer? I'll buy anytime. Ballyhoo's is a good place.

Thanks. A beer is probably better for my swimsuit figure than a milkshake.

I believe you mean "Edgewater," home of the volleyball queen. Actually, I like her spunk, but I think her position on the issue is a little stubborn. From all she says in the Commissioner meetings, there is no give on Edgewater's end. She has repeatedly mentioned that Edgewater goes to great lengths to ensure the beach is free of litter and debris every day, and I commend them for that, especially since it IS REQUIRED of all beach venders, though many of the beach venders and the Code Enforcement turn their heads on that part of the Beach Vending Permit clause. I don't go to the beach at Edgewater, so I don't know.

From the way I understood her describing it, Edgewater has a permanent structure for a beach volleyball net/posts (sounded like 6"x6" wooden posts, but I'm not sure.) If that is the case, and it is close to the dune line, I'm not sure how that would be different for Seaturtles and BeachCop vehicles, than a beach walkover with pilings.

It is a shame that they have taken it to this level, if that is the case, but I understand the point. The down side is that doing so effects a totally different issue of all the crap left on the beach every day. I know that Edgewater certainly wouldn't allow people to leave crap on that stretch of beach everyday, so the very narrow focus is very short-sighted in my opinion. We ALL want to maintiain the beautiful beaches which are present. Let's not blow it. Thankfully, many of the locals and visitors don't pay attention to whose property they are collecting trash.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Interested Girl, is it really that important to you that people be allowed to leave their random belongings out on the beach 24/7? Why trash the beach? But more importantly, why endanger other people on the beach?

I can understand the volleyball net; it should be treated/governed the same as dune walkovers and should be allowed to stay.

No, I can not understand the beach volleyball permanent fixture at all. These things come in bags lighter than beach chairs and are easily set up. They are nothing like a dune walkover which is intended to safely get people to and from the beach. To have one permanently on a beach is the height of laziness. IMO, it also makes a statement to some to go sit somewhere else since not everyone wants to be near a volleying ball.

For 'real' (ie. competitive) volleyball you need to have enough tension in the net that a ball can bounce off the net and move horizintally instead of just sadly trickling down to the ground. And you can't get that level of tension without fixed poles. Pictures of a proper beach volleyball area on Okaloosa Island.

Beach Volleyball at Okaloosa Island Boardwalk - Fort Walton Beach Photo Gallery - PlacesAroundFlorida.com Photo

Okaloosa Island Boardwalk Beach Volleyball - Fort Walton Beach Photo Gallery - PlacesAroundFlorida.com Photo

Well, this just makes things as clear as mud:

"No Trace" goes to Code Enforcement | code, enforcement, trace - Local News - WaltonSun.com

This article says, "Last week, the Walton County Code Enforcement office issued a memo to county commissioners saying that due to the volume of personal items left on area beaches, Code Enforcement would begin enforcing the ordinance. As a result, items left on the beach or beach access overnight will be removed and discarded."

Either the Sun is way behind the curve (which is quite possible) or one hand doesn't know or care what the other is doing.

Well, this just makes things as clear as mud:

"No Trace" goes to Code Enforcement | code, enforcement, trace - Local News - WaltonSun.com

This article says, "Last week, the Walton County Code Enforcement office issued a memo to county commissioners saying that due to the volume of personal items left on area beaches, Code Enforcement would begin enforcing the ordinance. As a result, items left on the beach or beach access overnight will be removed and discarded."

Either the Sun is way behind the curve (which is quite possible) or one hand doesn't know or care what the other is doing.

from wrobert...

Code Enforcement now staffed on weekends
I got an email stating that starting this weekend, there will be code enforcement out. You just have to call 622-0000 and it route to the cell phone of the on duty officer who will take your complaint and try to assist you.

I have seen a lot of comments on here about them not working on weekends and they have told me that the last time they tried this they got very few calls. So I want to make sure that everyone knows that they are available for action.






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If they are enforcing again, that's great. Now I can go back to posting pictures of women's underwear:

http://www.sowal.com/bb/all-about-sowal/36304-found-item-inlet-beach.html

That is a TDC truck, not Code Enforcement.

Thanks for the clarification. I was jsut excited to see a boogie board on there. Guess it was left by the trash cans. My source says she also took a pic of a truck full of beach chairs. Hopefully, that one is of a code enforcement truck. I'll post it as soon as I receive it.

from wrobert...

Code Enforcement now staffed on weekends
I got an email stating that starting this weekend, there will be code enforcement out. You just have to call 622-0000 and it route to the cell phone of the on duty officer who will take your complaint and try to assist you.

I have seen a lot of comments on here about them not working on weekends and they have told me that the last time they tried this they got very few calls. So I want to make sure that everyone knows that they are available for action.






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Wrobert would know since he is chair of the Walton County code Enforcement board.
Walton County, FL - Home Page - Code Enforcement

Just so you know, that is not a picture of a Code Enforement Vehicle, that is a TDC vehicle.

Thanks for the clarification. I was jsut excited to see a boogie board on there. Guess it was left by the trash cans. My source says she also took a pic of a truck full of beach chairs. Hopefully, that one is of a code enforcement truck. I'll post it as soon as I receive it.

The code enforcement trucks are the ones with the 20K in accessories, stripe packages, steps, winches, and light bars.

Wrobert would know since he is chair of the Walton County code Enforcement board.
Walton County, FL - Home Page - Code Enforcement

Is'nt that a conflict of interest with all the complaining hes does and he sits on the code enforcement board?????

Thanks for the clarification. I was jsut excited to see a boogie board on there. Guess it was left by the trash cans. My source says she also took a pic of a truck full of beach chairs. Hopefully, that one is of a code enforcement truck. I'll post it as soon as I receive it.

I didn't think code enforcement picked up stuff off the beach, just TDC.
I maybe wrong, but that's what I was told.

Was having coffee at Amavida's this morning and saw a white open bed truck as pictured here go through Seaside loaded with beach debris. Can't say if it was just from public access's or otherwise. I thought the county attorney ruled and they wouldn't go on private beach(?) to remove trash. Does anyone know what the definative word is on this subject?

Was having coffee at Amavida's this morning and saw a white open bed truck as pictured here go through Seaside loaded with beach debris. Can't say if it was just from public access's or otherwise. I thought the county attorney ruled and they wouldn't go on private beach(?) to remove trash. Does anyone know what the definative word is on this subject?

Look in last week's Sun. There is a whole article on removal of items from the beach.

I didn't think code enforcement picked up stuff off the beach, just TDC.
I maybe wrong, but that's what I was told.

I hear your confusion...I am confused, as well. Maybe someone with the real scoop will chime in and clarify this muddy trashy subject.

I'm not used to hearing people complain about free trash collection and removal services.

The only people complaining are the ones who want to be able to leave crap on their "private" beach. :angry:

The rest are just trying to figure out whether 1) it's still being picked up 2) who is doing it - TDC or Code.

I am pleased to report that (with the exception of the beach chair rentals set up at every public access) everyone was actively using their items on my stretch of beach.

Look in last week's Sun. There is a whole article on removal of items from the beach.

Link is up at post #108

The code enforcement trucks are the ones with the 20K in accessories, stripe packages, steps, winches, and light bars.

Is that per truck? How many trucks?

No, I can not understand the beach volleyball permanent fixture at all. These things come in bags lighter than beach chairs and are easily set up. They are nothing like a dune walkover which is intended to safely get people to and from the beach. To have one permanently on a beach is the height of laziness. IMO, it also makes a statement to some to go sit somewhere else since not everyone wants to be near a volleying ball.

I'm not talking about the portable volleyball nets that you can buy at Academy Sports that double as a badminton and tetherball set. I was referring to stationary posts sunk into the ground. There was a net over by the Whale's Tale when I was younger and they had sponsored beach volleyball competitions there, although I don't recall ever seeing those two attractive ladies from the U.S. Olympic team competing there. If it's set back near the dune line, it would be comparable to a dune walkover.

One thing I still see occasionally in Baldwin County, Alabama and Pensacola Beach are the large, flat, side-by-side rental chairs on 4" x 4" legs. They've always stayed on the beach seasonally if not year round. I'm surprised those still exist; it seems those would be hazardous to all kinds of people, reptiles, etc.

Crap on the beach allowed???

I was walking on the beach this morning (Grayton) and walked past about 6 chairs in the sand that had obviously been there over night. I flagged down a passing TDC truck and pointed the chairs out. He told me that the removal of articles left on the beach had been but to a halt. So....any crap left on the beach right now stays on the beach??? Great, just great! Wait until all the crap ends up in the dunes after an over night storm :roll:

Speaking of crap....here is what I picked up off the beach today
6 beverage cans
7 beverage bottles
5 cups
4 bandaids
2 empty cigarette packs
1 soggy and full cigarette pack
1 shirt
3 flip flops
numerous sand toys
10 cigarette butts
3 straws
1/2 of a fish net
the leg of a beach chair
1 float
1 childs round floaty tube (almost in the dunes but not so much so that I disturbed anything...I figured it was better to retrieve it now than have it blow further into the dunes :roll
1 jump rope
various pieces of trash
1 bra....yep, thats right I was walking down the beach and a guy saw me picking up trash, so as we met he saw some trash and picked it up to put into my bag...and it was a lacy bra....we had a great laugh :rofl: He gingerly put it into my bag