Lowering the speed limit on 30A?

Rdavies,
FTLOG, Highway 30a is a highway, road, street, etc.

It matters not what you semantically care to define it.

No one believes we should remove stop signs where they make sense.

This IS a safety issue.

I will gladly step forward and say that I personally don't want to slow down on the stretch of highway 30a that has a posted speed limit of 45mph so someone can ride their street legal golfcart or LSV on the highway.

This isn't a proSUV, gas guzzling, anti-environment rant.

I'm not entering the debate, but I am posting some info from the National Motorists Association web page that I ran across.
No, I don't know where they get their data.
No, I don't know if they are a lobby group.
No, I don't know if it's really accurate.

Q. Isn't slower always safer?
A. No, federal and state studies have consistently shown that the drivers most likely to get into accidents in traffic are those traveling significantly below the average speed. According to an Institute of Transportation Engineers Study, those driving 10 mph slower than the prevailing speed are six times as likely to be involved in an accident. That means that if the average speed on an interstate is 70 mph, the person traveling at 60 mph is far more likely to be involved in an accident than someone going 70 or even 80 mph.

Q. Don't higher speed limits cause more accidents and traffic fatalities?
A. No, if a speed limit is raised to actually reflect real travel speeds, the new higher limit will make the roads safer. When the majority of traffic is traveling at the same speed, traffic flow improves, and there are fewer accidents. Speed alone is rarely the cause of accidents. Differences in speed are the main problem. Reasonable speed limits help traffic to flow at a safer, more uniform pace.

The bold sections seemed very applicable whether they are referring to highways or surface streets.

Speed Limits - Information, Studies, Laws, Legislation

Y'all may, now, get back to the business of flogging this horse! 😀

...How do we cope with the fact that the average speed through Seaside is 10MPH in the summer, when the posted limit is much higher? You slow down and go with the flow-

I am sooooo with you on that one. I can't ever think of a time where 30A was a consideration if I had to get somewhere quickly. That's what 98 is for. I will say, though, that the 98 scenario is totally different for us on the west end of 30A than those on the east where the cut throughs stop at 395.

We used to use 30A as a shortcut years ago when 98 was two laned and a parking lot during the summer.

We used to use 30A as a shortcut years ago when 98 was two laned and a parking lot during the summer.

amen! thanks for admitting its all about 1 minute of extra convenience.

umm. sorry if you live on Scenic 30A, you're going to have to leave a minute earlier in the future, in case you're stuck behind an LSV for 1 or 2 miles where you could have gone 45mPP ....

Like the above poster said, you're gonna have to find another route, or leave earlier (like 2 minutes).. let the violins play:lol:

amen! thanks for admitting its all about 1 minute of extra convenience.

umm. sorry if you live on Scenic 30A, you're going to have to leave a minute earlier in the future, in case you're stuck behind an LSV for 1 or 2 miles where you could have gone 45mPP ....

Like the above poster said, you're gonna have to find another route, or leave earlier (like 2 minutes).. let the violins play:lol:

hey swg-boy, they decided to 4-lane 98 instead of 30A. Would you have preferred they 4 laned 30 A instead? or perhaps you'd prefer an elevated freeway through 30A like through Detroit, Philadelphia etc. A case study in urban planning - yes.

Sorry dude, you're livingin the wrong place .. Slowing people down, with narrow streets, stop signs, limits, etc... tends to creates livable communities.

Maybe you should go and picket the godfather of New Urbanisn when he comes to town... let him know how important it is for you to get to your job 1 minute earlier - and that you don't have the extra minute to leave earlier, or take "U.S." highway 98.

It's nice to see someone excited about their cause, however misguided, but did you actually read my post? It says very clearly that we used 30A as a short cut before they 4 laned Hwy 98. At that time 98 was a parking lot from one end to the other during the summer, you could slip down 30A and even if it were only 35mph the entire way you would still have come out way ahead.

Since they are NOT lowering the speed limit on 30a to 35mph, what the hell are you babbling about here? This thread is like a train wreck, it derailed when it struck that dead horse twenty miles back... :roll:

Would you please stop chiming in with your lame attempts to shut down a legitimate discussion.

That was my first post on this thread, where exactly are my 'lame attempts' to shut it down? Your lucidity seems to be slipping. I will let you get back to your LSV flag waving then. :wave: