Customary Use and Our 30A Legacy

No, all of your group’s anonymity speaks volumes not owning up to your own thoughts and words as your own. That is what has me laughing. Such lengths are taken to remain anonymous. You all don’t seem to understand that your anonymity dilutes your legitimacy and integrity.

Not sure what you mean by "such lengths", unless that is indicative of how hard you're trying to figure out who everybody is with these normal anonymous userIDs like EZ4144, Lake view too, Bob Bob, PapaJ, jensky, Dawn, Mputnal, foX. Etc. (and don't count off for spelling, please.)

You, Dave Rauschkolb, don’t seem to understand that your inability to respond to the facts presented here (regardless by whom) dilutes your legitimacy and integrity.

Facts are facts.

I only stay anonymous because of the legitimate concerns for my business and property.

I have seen all the acts of protest and challenges on beach property, and I can't take any chance that Uhlfelder or FBFA or God forbid that BeachApp guy won't come after me like has been done at Vizcaya, Sugar Dunes, and Ed Walline.

I've spoken at length with Sherriff [sic] Mike about the security concerns. Anonymity is necessary. Many BFO's I've spoken with feel the same way. Social media is so toxic, that many don't even risk speaking out at all.

So Dave, if you think I'm going to let FBFA do to me what you've done to Mike Huckabee and others, you are nuts.

I only stay anonymous because of the legitimate concerns for my business and property.

I have seen all the acts of protest and challenges on beach property, and I can't take any chance that Uhlfelder or FBFA or God forbid that BeachApp guy won't come after me like has been done at Vizcaya, Sugar Dunes, and Ed Walline.

I've spoken at length with Sherriff [sic] Mike about the security concerns. Anonymity is necessary. Many BFO's I've spoken with feel the same way. Social media is so toxic, that many don't even risk speaking out at all.

So Dave, if you think I'm going to let FBFA do to me what you've done to Mike Huckabee and others, you are nuts.

That is the most BS narrative that you can come up with. To say that Florida beaches for all has had anything to do with harassing anyone is ridiculous. I’ve spoken at length with the sheriff as well. Individuals, Good people who have invested here and are not beachfront owners and those who are are visiting here, react to having their right to use the beaches restricted on their own and it happens pretty often on our SoWal beaches. I’m sure that those instances are well documented with the Sheriff. We, Florida beaches for all has no control or coordination whatsoever in what happens on our beaches and for you to insinuate that Florida beaches for all has anything to do with harassing anyone is an absolutely outrageous statement.

That is the most BS narrative that you can come up with. To say that Florida beaches for all has had anything to do with harassing anyone is ridiculous. I’ve spoken at length with the sheriff as well. Individuals, Good people who have invested here and are not beachfront owners and those who are are visiting here, react to having their right to use the beaches restricted on their own and it happens pretty often on our SoWal beaches and I’m sure that those instances are well documented with the Sheriff. We, Florida beaches for all has no control or coordination whatsoever in what happens on our beaches and for you to insinuate that Florida beaches for all has anything to do with harassing anyone is an absolutely outrageous statement.

Whoever you are.

Haha wait until a bunch of these accounts are merged. I've seen it on here before ip addresses reveal all. Gaskins or somebody's post count going to go way up.

So is it Reggie Gaskins, Stone Cold J, or whatever your name is?

SO WHAT! Are the facts any different? Are the questions not answered asked not valid?

Dave Rauschkolb you should know the difference between anonymous and pseudonyms. Why do you keep repeating yourself about "anonymous" posts? Ben Franklin and Mark Twin used pseudonyms and that did not lessen the facts they wrote about. The facts are facts no matter what name you use.
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Lake View Too's ad nauseum mantra must have worked on you.
"The first and perhaps the only rule in propaganda is: if you tell a lie over and over and over and over and over again, the populace will start to believe it is true. That’s what this thread is all about." At least LV2 has stopped those repetitive senseless posts and disrespectful grave photo-manipulated image.
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Your meaningless whining (to use CU advocates word) has been addressed before. #538 Are you referring to Lake View Too, bob bob, poppaj, Dawn, EZ4144, MRBS, Duchess, Jenksy, L.C. Bane, mputnal, buster, Leader of the Banned, Emerald Drifter, ShallowsNole, or jodiFL on this thread? How do you know Jim Tucker, James Bentwood, Pam Hicks are not pseudonyms? Customary Use Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy

"I never even thought for a second to represent anyone but myself when I got on this forum so many years ago." You never for a second had mass antisocial media lies, shaming, or staging confrontations on your private property either.

"Is it really behavior that caused the CU vs Private beach issue?" Behavior, cause CU? NO. Commissioners baseless CU beliefs lit the fire and caused "the CU vs Private beach issue?" You and those that just believe CU fan the flames on antisocial media and make it worse.

That is the most BS narrative that you can come up with. To say that Florida beaches for all has had anything to do with harassing anyone is ridiculous. ...We, Florida beaches for all has no control or coordination whatsoever in what happens on our beaches [but you do on private beaches] and for you to insinuate that Florida beaches for all has anything to do with harassing anyone [like at Vizcaya?] is an absolutely outrageous statement.

Dave Rauschkolb, do you deny FBFA attorney Daniel Uhlfelder trespassed on Vizcaya private property on multiple days and posted it on social media was not planned (staged)? The Deputies told Uhlfelder he was on private property, Vizcaya's legal plat and public pedestrian easement to the foreshore has been post on this thread, Walton Beach Director BCC video was heard to say many (including Vizcaya) easements are easements on PRIVATE property and the Commissoiners, TDC, and public have NO rights other than crossing the sand to the foreshore. Your posts are Not CREDIBLE. Or do you just choose not to believe legal documents and the law?

That is the most BS narrative that you can come up with. To say that Florida beaches for all has had anything to do with harassing anyone is ridiculous.

Dave boy, are you setting us up?

In Walton County, Desperation Leads to Serious Political Missteps
“Uhlfelder is one of the most visible leaders of a new “pro-CU” non-profit called Florida Beaches for All. He’s also an attorney in a state famous for its strict advertising and ethics laws for licensed lawyers.”

We all know Daniel Uhlfelder was instrumental in forming FBFA and now reperesents FBFA as its attorney as co-plaintiff in the CU court case. I’d say he IS FBFA along with you.

Are you denying that Daniel Uhlfelder intentionally trespassed on Vizcaya property on multiple occasions for the purpose of videoing and publishing the escapades in an attempt to generate emotional response and support from the CU community at the expense of the private property owners AND sherrrrifff department?

You must be denying it because NOTHING ELSE EXPLAINS your ridiculous statement that FBFA had nothing to do with harassing anyone.

Really concerned about you.

We all know Daniel Uhlfelder was instrumental in forming FBFA and now represents FBFA as its attorney as co-plaintiff in the CU court case. I’d say he IS FBFA along with you.

Don't forget Daniel Uhlfelder is 1 of the 34 "Defendant" attorneys intervening for 2 beachfront owners FOR CU. One BFO has an ECL and the other a sliver of beachfront. None of the other Uhlfelder clients own beachfront.

I never saw his plan .

#607 "Just remember everyone, the beach, it's ours, it's always been ours and anything less....is a Compromise. So let's be good neighbors and work together to reinstate Customary Use."
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If Dave Rauschkolb's "compromise" is for the Commissioners to do their job and their duty to ensure every person visiting or living here safety - in exchange for BFOs private property rights that BFOs have and have had since 1776 - then CUnCourt and let's settle this once and for all.

If BFOs prevail the Walton tax payer may get to pay the millions of legal fees for both sides and get 4,671 really angry BFOs. Then Commissioners will have to respect, enforce, and accommodate BFOs property rights. Or BFOs will fight Commissioners property "takes" over and over again. Including fighting emanate domain - even if Walton is stupid enough to try it.

Ladies and Gentlemen of SoWal,
The fact that Dave refuses to answer a single legitimate question as the Chairman of the Activist group driving this noise, should tell you a lot. He complains about normal practice of online screen names. He sees ghosts in the shadows by the common misspelling of a single word. Yet, if he REALLY wanted to know these identities, we have seen here that many of them have offered to sit in public, in the daylight, for a public discussion of the facts. No less than 8 people, including here, have asked Dave for this discussion. He refuses. I can't tell you why he spends all of his time attacking identities but not a minute solving or even DISCUSSING the problem. But you can ask yourself - why won't he meet in public with Reggie and others if it's SOOOOOOOO important to know their identity?

Dave has been a member since 2005 and posted on a number of topics and has been active in giving back to the community including hosting the annual CVHN Hurricane Party. What’s your record?

Poppaj, "Giving back to the community". Not to discount businesses hosting a sponsored Children’s Volunteer Health Network that raised $62,000 for a worthy cause; but that did not come out of any one individual's pocket. Last year alone I paid in excess of $25,000 in Walton property taxes. More than $16,000 to educate Walton students. More than $5,500 for the Sheriff to not enforce beachfront property legal boundaries - Deputies do a great job though with the direction they are given by the Sheriff. More than $2,200 for the South Walton Fire. I tithe much more than is expected, I coached kids soccer, and volunteered at their schools. Does that count?

Mike Huckabee paid more than $29,000 to educate Walton children and ensure the safety of Walton residents. There are 1,192 beachfront parcels. You do the math. I did not see any Florida Beaches for All (FBFA) directors volunteering for the Commissioners' post CU-ordiance 2017 Customary Use Committee. Mike Huckabee was Vice-Chair and volunteered many tens of hours meeting with 10 other residents; that the Commissioners reject most of the Committee's recommendations. Does that count? Customary Use Committee makes final recommendations

You tout Dave's record of giving back to the "community". That's great. Open questions, how many BFOs have been public servants for the people; like Governor? I know many BFOs are military veterans having served their nation, including BFOs the Goodwins, who have suffered despicable social media, traditional media, and physical harassment on their own private property even after they prevailed in court against Commissioners. How many BFOs veterans have contributed to the community by serving their country in harms way but are called greedy, in-human, and worse, just on this thread, much less on antisocial media? The community needs a beach-view place to eat expensive food and be served Mai Tais too though.

Do you want to continue to go down this rabbit-hole? Let's stay on topic and can anyone answer questions asked on this thread? What are the definitions of the historic criteria of customary use and why do you believe Commissioners should spend millions of tax payers dollars and risk getting nothing but the legal bills? I agree about one thing the Commissioners have politically boxed themselves into a corner, antisocial media have repeated over and over (intentionally?) false property rights and CU misinformation, the time to "compromise" is past, and the best solution at this time is for a court to determine if Walton BFO's private property rights are superior to an anarchic English common law public customary use of American private property or not; based on the evidence and law. Which does not include CU or no-CU effect on the local economy.

Talking about CU misinformation; here is one from a Facebook page started by Arnald Keith Dean, the Emerald Coast of REALTORS CEO. Who is not a REALTOR and never has been. A CPA.

First, this "shameless" marketing piece was NOT from any lawyer, lawyers are not permitted to seek out individual clients. This was from Florida Coastal Property Rights BFOs to all the same beachfront parcel owners that Walton Commissioners notified that they intended to claim in court public customary use of their private property. This was from BFOs, paid by BFOs, for BFOs to ensure BFOs were aware and what to do next given the limited time period to intervine. 650+ of the 1,192 beachfront owners acted. Florida Coastal Property Rights

Second, FACT HB631 does NOT require any BFO lawsuits against Commissioners' CU ordinance at all, much less "combined into one" lawsuit. FS163.035 is a local government due-process law to prevent other FL counties from doing what Walton Commissioners tried to do by avoiding due-process in court FIRST. The Floridians for the Preservation of Customary Use FB clearly do not understand FS1630.35 that Commissioners are the Plaintiffs (with the burden of proof) litigating in court against 4,671 BFOs. Not BFOs litigation against Commissioners.

Third, No attorneys advertised anything. See 1 above. Just not CREDIBLE; CU (mis)information.

Another reason I will never list my beachfront with a Walton REALTOR. Except maybe Scenic Sotheby's International brokers. Letter to ECAR.

Poppaj, "Giving back to the community". Not to discount businesses hosting a sponsored Children’s Volunteer Health Network that raised $62,000 for a worthy cause; but that did not come out of any one individual's pocket. Last year alone I paid in excess of $25,000 in Walton property taxes. More than $16,000 to educate Walton students. More than $5,500 for the Sheriff to not enforce beachfront property legal boundaries - Deputies do a great job though with the direction they are given by the Sheriff. More than $2,200 for the South Walton Fire. I tithe much more than is expected, I coached kids soccer, and volunteered at their schools. Does that count?

Mike Huckabee paid more than $29,000 to educate Walton children and ensure the safety of Walton residents. There are 1,192 beachfront parcels. You do the math. I did not see any Florida Beaches for All (FBFA) directors volunteering for the Commissioners' post CU-ordiance 2017 Customary Use Committee. Mike Huckabee was Vice-Chair and volunteered many tens of hours meeting with 10 other residents; that the Commissioners reject most of the Committee's recommendations. Does that count? Customary Use Committee makes final recommendations

You tout Dave's record of giving back to the "community". That's great. How many BFOs have been public servants for the people; like Governor? I know many BFOs are military veterans having served their nation, including BFOs the Goodwins, who have suffered despicable social media, traditional media, and physical harassment on their own private property even after they prevailed in court against Commissioners? How many BFOs veterans have contributed to the community by serving their country in harms way but are called greedy, in-human, and worse, just on this thread, much less on antisocial media? The community needs a beach-view place to eat expensive food and be served Mai Tais too though.

Do you want to continue to go down this rabbit-hole? Let's stay on topic and can anyone answer questions asked on this thread? What are the definitions of the historic criteria of customary use and why do you believe Commissioners should spend millions of tax payers dollars and risk getting nothing but the legal bills? I agree about one thing the Commissioners have politically boxed themselves into a corner, antisocial media have repeated over and over (intentionally?) false property rights and CU misinformation, the time to "compromise" is past, and the best solution at this time is for a court to determine if Walton BFO's private property rights are superior to an anarchic English common law public customary use of American private property in America or not; based on the evidence and law. Which does not include CU or no-CU effect on the local economy.

Well go right ahead and pat yourself on the back for paying your taxes unlike the rest of us tax cheats. This thread went off topic long ago. The poster was criticizing Dave’s post count as if he only posted on this topic which is untrue. It appears as though many on here are portraying Dave as a greedy person which I believe is also untrue. I don’t personally know him but I have volunteered the last few years to assist with the Hurricane Party auction and have seen first hand that this is not an inexpensive event to host.
If you can document where I have accused anyone of being greedy I will apologize until then keep beating the dead horse if it amuses you.
I don’t know why it should make an effing difference to you or anyone, but since you brought it up I am a retired disabled veteran which doesn’t give me single extra right you don’t possess.

If you can document where I have accused anyone of being greedy I will apologize until then keep beating the dead horse if it amuses you. I don’t know why it should make an effing difference to you or anyone, but since you brought it up I am a retired disabled veteran which doesn’t give me single extra right you don’t possess.

You are right I paid property taxes for the right to own private property and all the property rights you have that contribute to the community.

I did not accuse you in the post of you accusing anyone of any derogatory remarks. I asked an open question; "How many BFOs veterans have contributed to the community by serving their country in harms way but are called greedy, in-human, and worse, just on this thread, much less on antisocial media?"

Thank you for your service to our nation and your pledge to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. At least you, not the person you have advocated for, have contributed that to the community and nation. May not give you any extra rights but to serve honorably does give you more respect for your contribution.
Now back to the thread. Want to answer any of the CU questions posted?

This thread is now owned by an attention whore.

Jenksy: "This thread is now owned by an attention whore."
Suggest no property rights advocate need reply. Just let it stand on it's own.
Clarified.

No one needs to reply. Just let it stand on it's own.

Oh. Do you own this thread?

You are right I paid property taxes for the right to own private property and all the property rights you have that contribute to the community.

I did not accuse you in the post of you accusing anyone of any derogatory remarks. I asked an open question; "How many BFOs veterans have contributed to the community by serving their country in harms way but are called greedy, in-human, and worse, just on this thread, much less on antisocial media?"

Thank you for your service to our nation and your pledge to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. At least you, not Dave, have contributed that to the community and nation.
Now back to the thread. Want to answer any of the CU questions posted?

Good grief here we go again with the Constitution rhetoric. Yes I guess you could say I served to defend the Constitution which it seems many forget is not a piece of parchment encased in concrete, but a living document that adapts to current circumstances without the need of an amendment.

The first, and perhaps, the only rule in propaganda is: If you keep telling a lie over and over and over and over and over again, the populace will start to believe it is true. That’s what this thread is all about.

LV2, we're in agreement that propaganda is at the heart of what is tearing our community apart. But you've got it backwards who is perpetually fueling the propaganda machine and has been for some time now.

"If you keep telling a lie over and over and over and over again, the populace will start to believe it is true." That is what the true power broker is all about. And you yourself cannot deny that.

How many times has that BS propaganda "Shifting Sands" now been published? Merely to stir up emotions, but not based on facts and truths. It's being repeatedly shoved down the community's throats a distasteful amount of times, by the same multimillion dollar corporation. Open your eyes, man. Cotton candy words that taste sweet, but have no substance.

This thread is now owned by an attention whore.

Au contraire, girl, the author of Shifting Sands BS propaganda does not own this thread.

Haha wait until a bunch of these accounts are merged. I've seen it on here before ip addresses reveal all. Gaskins or somebody's post count going to go way up.

"ip addresses reveal all"? Not really or not all the time. Understand most all internet providers (Mediacom in Walton) IP addresses are not static/fixed but are dynamic/changes. Internet provider's IP addresses can be "sticky" but most IPs usually expire after a short period of time and new IPs are assigned, sometimes without you even knowing it. Medicom have huge numbers of dynamic 173.xxx.xxx.xxx IP addresses that are assign to its paid internet users periodically.

Blocks of IP addresses are assigned to geographic areas around the world, so you can guess where the IP assigned to your computer is located but not a specific person or computer. Just where the IP was assigned. Many sites like IP Address Lookup - Find IP Address Location - WhatIsMyIP.com® will show the IP address and the location where the IP was assigned by Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) in the sky.

All Medicom, and most internet providers, assign a new IP every time when the home internet modem reboots, like by unplugging the internet modem power, counting to 10 and plunging the power back in. You can see your "public" internet IP by Goggling "What's my IP".

Many internet users use secure private and commercial Virtual Private Networks (VPN) like Private Internet Access | Anonymous VPN Service Provider. With a VPN your public IP address goes to an encrypted VPN server and is assigned it's own different VPN IP address. Commercial VPN servers are all over the US and the world. You could be in Sandestin connected to a secure VPN server in Canada and go to SoWal or Resources – Florida Coastal Property Rights and the public IP that those servers would "see" would be an IP from Canada. Many PC from all over the US could use the same VPN but could look like the IPs were coming from the same VPN server location.
Remote PC software can be used to surf the internet from another PC located anywhere in the world too.

Internet browser Cookies can store information a Server can use too. If you do not want Cookies on your PC, most browsers have private no-cookie settings. Google Chrome is "Incognito" Browse in private - Computer - Google Chrome Help. Firefox is "Private Window" Private Browsing - Use Firefox without saving history | Firefox Help. To delete cookies Google how to permanently delete Cookies from your browser manually each time you exit an internet site or automatically when you close your browser.

If you have a home network-router and a internet provider modem (Mediacom), the public internet address is different than a non-public router network router IP (usually 192.168.xxx.xxx or 10.10.xxx.xxx) but the "public" IP is what internet servers, like SoWal will see. So "ip addresses [do not always] reveal all." - not always who the individual IP is assigned to if the public IP is reassigned periodically.

Another reason I will never list my beachfront with a Walton REALTOR. Except maybe Scenic Sotheby's International brokers. Letter to ECAR.

I sincerely hope that any BFO who is looking to list their home, not do so with any ECAR affiliated broker except for the one mentioned above.

ECAR had ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT to take sides in this CU debate as a commercial entity, IMHO.

MONEY resulting from increased development and commissions is the only reason they did take sides.

Just a casual reminder to some CU folks who don’t truly understand the benchmarks of CU....MONEY, economics, property values, etc. are NOT one of them, period.

ECAR (made up many local brokers) is as big of a hypocritical organization as I have ever seen.

I sincerely hope that any BFO who is looking to list their home, not do so with any ECAR affiliated broker except for the one mentioned above.

ECAR had ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT to take sides in this CU debate as a commercial entity, IMHO.

MONEY resulting from increased development and commissions is the only reason they did take sides.

Just a casual reminder to some CU folks who don’t truly understand the benchmarks of CU....MONEY, economics, property values, etc. are NOT one of them, period.

ECAR (made up many local brokers) is as big of a hypocritical organization as I have ever seen.

Yes because every member agrees with ECAR leadership lol. What a stupid position to take.

GUEST COLUMN: Customary use is not a private property rights issue

By Dave Rauschkolb | Guest Columnist

Those power brokers intent on denying the public’s right to use and enjoy our beach as we have since time immemorial are determined to paint this as a private property rights issue. Customary use is not an attack against private property rights; it is an affirmation that regardless of ownership of the sand we all have a right to access, use and enjoy our shared coastal American border.

“No entity, regardless of ownership, may deny or exclude Americans or international visitors from freely and lawfully accessing and using our American beaches from the dune line to the mean high tide waterline.” These words should be all that is needed in a federal or state law.

Private property in the conventional sense, beyond our coastal borders is not in dispute. Reams of legal and layman’s arguments have been and are being written to paint non-beachfront owners’ use of our beaches as an attack on private property. It is not because our beaches are very different from conventional private property.

We all own private property and the law is clear on Americans’ right to preserve and protect their private property. That is rarely if ever in dispute. The reason this issue IS in dispute is because we have truly shared our beaches for centuries. The claim of exclusion on beaches, couched in private property rights arguments is a fairly recent development in American history.

We have a shared coastal heritage on our beaches. Clearly our coasts have value, as the closer one purchases to a beach the values are highest. The value and strength of coastal economies depend on the use of our beaches for all. For a finite group of citizens to claim exclusion of our beaches to the rest of all Americans is an affront to all non beachfront-owning Americans.

Those powerful and well-funded people wanting to change a balance that has existed a very, very long time bitterly claim their private property is being taken away. No. They purchased the convenience of being steps from the beach and the view. They can’t build on the sand and there is no tax assessments directly attached to that sand. It is not private property in the conventional sense as it applies to all other land that is private property.

No, this is not about private property, it is about excluding all of us from enjoying and using our most treasured and beloved beaches. Our beaches, the shifting sands of our common Coastal American heritage. Perhaps, besides it not being buildable or taxable, it could be argued that the sandy areas of our beaches may never be called “private” because the land they purchased is constantly on the move by tidal action, wind and storms. How can they claim ownership and exclusion on shifting sand they can’t contain?

I sincerely hope that any BFO who is looking to list their home, not do so with any ECAR affiliated broker except for the one mentioned above.

ECAR had ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT to take sides in this CU debate as a commercial entity, IMHO.

MONEY resulting from increased development and commissions is the only reason they did take sides.

Just a casual reminder to some CU folks who don’t truly don’t understand the benchmarks of CU....MONEY, economics, property values, etc. are NOT one of them, period.

ECAR (made up many local brokers) is as big of a hypocritical organization as I have ever seen.

Dude, my brain hurts.

So, I guess it stands to reason, if he's scouring for spelling errors, he's likely monitoring IP addresses as well.... hmmmm.

Sounds like last fall. There was talk he started some fake FBI investigation rumor in order to have a large group of members completely blocked from a popular community page. (And now he wonders why all the pseudonyms?)

Additionally he just published his latest inflammatory propaganda in three local rags. One week before his protest in the beach. To the day. Bet that got the sherrrifff's attention.

Sure is a busy little guy, isn't he? I would love to use Jensky's label here, but I don't dare say it out loud, like she gets away with.

And yet still, we are supposed to believe that Dave and FBFA have "no coordination whatsoever in what happens on our beaches".
Yeah, right.

"You know you're a powerbroker if..."

Yes because every member agrees with ECAR leadership lol. What a stupid position to take.

What are we missing here? Nina Horn, a Scenic Sotheby's Realtor is President of ECAR.